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re: LSU gives Pi Kappa Phi the boot until 2023

Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5865 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:50 pm to
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Most Greeks that I have met over the years, turn into travel ball dads. They had to buy their friends in college, and now, believe they need to spend $$$ on Jayden and Jaxson to be able to have any friends at all, the other travel ball dads.


This is so far off its pathetic.
I don't know any travel ball dads who were in a fraternity and guys who were in a fraternity don't name their kids Jayden or Jaxon
Posted by Halftrack
The Wild Blue Yonder
Member since Apr 2015
2763 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:57 pm to
How can people bitch and moan about trial lawyers on one hand, and then say it ok for underage and irresponsible drinking to go on in fraternities?

When something happens, people sue. Rates go up,

You can’t have virtual lawlessness, and then somebody gets killed or maimed and no consequences. It doesn’t work like that.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37664 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:01 pm to
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It was 100% my fault. I picked the wrong frat for the wrong reasons and it didn't work out for me. I don't blame the frat at all, but that doesn't mean there wasn't incredible pressure on me to "fit in" and be a good Greek soldier. Perhaps that would have slacked off once I became an active, but I didn't want to be a part of a group that molded me into their image and I felt like that was what was happening.



things must've drastically changed. We were never forced to do anything stupid. We did stupid shite all on our own. Never was forced to drink. Just had a 40 gallon trash can of jungle juice and all the kegs you wanted if you felt like drinking till you passed out.
Maybe kids are more sadistic today. But the only pledges who ever got in a bind were the ones who were trying to hard. They didn't die. They just called balled at the next chapter meeting.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37664 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:02 pm to
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guys who were in a fraternity don't name their kids Jayden or Jaxon


+1.

Posted by warlock1974
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2015
1813 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:46 pm to
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Good. The sooner the better.


Just out of curiosity, which one blackballed you?
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
26689 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:49 pm to
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I know I’ll get a lot of shite for this, but in terms of professional development joining a fraternity is one of the best things you can do for your career.

you shouldn't get shite for speaking the truth.... this is probably one of the only things i'll say is a positive for joining a fraternity...

the rest of it, the thinly veiled homoerotic nature of it all, the stupidity and arrogance of the members, the superiority complex that is so very present, all that shite, yeah, those are the reason to not join...

but for your comment, i'll give you credit... you are right about that...
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104110 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:54 pm to
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I know I’ll get a lot of shite for this, but in terms of professional development joining a fraternity is one of the best things you can do for your career.





I've gotten exactly zero career benefits from it, but I had a lot of fun.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11908 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:58 pm to
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Like, you can't stop that shite for a while until the noise settles down?



Pretty much this. I'm not a hater of the greeks but come on guys. There is no slack right now. Be on good behavior for a while.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34353 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:06 pm to
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How can people bitch and moan about trial lawyers on one hand, and then say it ok for underage and irresponsible drinking to go on in fraternities?
I think people are more or less saying that the underage drinking will happen either way, do you think only fraternity members drink before they are 21?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:09 pm to
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Greek life will be dead in 10 years if university officials continue to have their way.


Good. Greek Life is a blight on America.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:14 pm to
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do you think only fraternity members drink before they are 21?


I don't think anyone thinks that. A lot of that drinking occurs outside of the University's purview though. Fraternities are organizations that are part of the University, and at most SEC schools they have houses on University owned land. With that, they have agreements with the University on how they'll police their members' behavior. When they don't, the University has little choice but to step in and punish them, especially when there's a death involved.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15750 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:15 pm to
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Greek life is a blight on America.


Why should you be able to tell anyone how to spend their time?

I personally enjoyed my time in Greek life. It’s not for everyone. If i had the chance to do it again, I dont know if I would, but that is the young man going through rushes decision; not yours
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53044 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:15 pm to
Omega Psi Phi checking in
Posted by BuyloSellhi
The South
Member since May 2017
666 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:19 pm to
Jester

quote:

Good. Greek Life is a blight on America.


Still feeling sorry for yourself that you didn't get invited. OOHHH.

No travel moms/dads that I met during my stay on campus in the Greek system. Like any group at LSU, blue collar and white collar mixture, with a lot of good down to earth folks.

Check with the LSU Foundation regarding checks written to them by alums - more than 70% comes from those that were in the Greek system.

I guess you would consider them losers as well.

Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4970 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:26 pm to
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Greek life will be dead in 10 years if university officials continue to have their way.


I think you mean "... if frat boys don't wise up and stop being criminals."
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:50 pm to
I feel like you’re jealous about a lot of things.....
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:12 pm to
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Greek life will be dead in 10 years if university officials continue to have their way.


It will.

They’re giving up control though, and with it safety. The drugs, and drinking will continue.
Posted by Johnny Roastbeef
Somewhere in Bartow County
Member since Sep 2018
2034 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:42 pm to
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Fratstars are not plant baws


Actually I know dozen of people in frats who became operators after college
Posted by forever lsu30
Member since Nov 2005
4034 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:17 pm to
The bottom line is that these suspensions & the crusade against Greek life is not going to end well for LSU, or any college.

The groups of like minded thinking/want to party people is not going to disappear. These students will move their groups off campus & meet in secret, just like the founding members of Greek organizations did over 100 years ago. Especially now because pooling money together for parties is always the best option for more people-which is essentially 90% of Greek life anyway.

So now, you'll have more drinking incidents taking place off campus leading to more OWI/DWIs.
It is next to impossible to prove with data because it's not recorded as such, but alcohol related issues at colleges/college bars/surrounding apartments of their students are greatly outnumbered by non-Greeks than Greeks.

Many LSU chapters already act/exist against most of the National Office bullshite anyway. They're basically Mardi Gras Krewes. Their way of doing things is just going to adapt.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
13339 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:13 pm to
The Greeks don’t want no freaks but LSU evidently don’t want no greeks. On a per capita basis, greek letter organizations have produced more leaders in the business world who donate to the university than the social justice warrior clubs that convene at Free Speech Alley ever will.
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