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re: LSU - Construction Management
Posted on 5/26/24 at 6:56 pm to pelicansfan123
Posted on 5/26/24 at 6:56 pm to pelicansfan123
It’s a great major. Drink and frick and fight for 4 years then come out and make a 7 figure salary.
Why didn’t I do it.
Why didn’t I do it.
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 6:57 pm to HandMeMyWrench
Great degree, loved the curriculum. Project management is overrated though
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:04 pm to FLTech
quote:and the good ones are wealthy because of it
In other words, most commercial contractors are fricking scumbags.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:11 pm to Upperdecker
Many undergrads doing anything worthwhile besides engineering were engineering drop outs.
ChemE was so painful, I don’t think I want my son to go thru it, even though it was the logical undergrad degree for me. I honestly think it messes some otherwise smart people up and puts them around antisocial weirdos for so much time that it kind of ruins their college experience. There I said it.
They also make it as awful and impractical as possible, and ALWAYS have early classes almost like the profs are fricking with the students.
ChemE was so painful, I don’t think I want my son to go thru it, even though it was the logical undergrad degree for me. I honestly think it messes some otherwise smart people up and puts them around antisocial weirdos for so much time that it kind of ruins their college experience. There I said it.
They also make it as awful and impractical as possible, and ALWAYS have early classes almost like the profs are fricking with the students.
This post was edited on 5/26/24 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:25 pm to Bullfrog
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Has a great reputation.
Yes it does.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:49 pm to Upperdecker
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Most construction management graduates flunked out of engineering
Not true
Just decided they could do just as well without the extra PE BS.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:59 pm to PGAOLDBawNeVaBroke
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Many undergrads doing anything worthwhile besides engineering were engineering drop outs.
While I would recommend a civil degree to anyone wanting to get into management (I think it's a more enriching experience overall), most of what you learn doesn't really translate into the big management dollars. If you have connections a construction management degree is fine. The Birmingham construction scene is littered with Auburn construction grads. What will really make you shine though is if you're able to grab that PE cert if you have the civil degree. But the tract to fast money is definitely the management scene vs. working in pure engineering design.
i almost hate posting this since it feels like I'm letting the cat out of the bag, but there is tons of money to be made right now as a small to medium size GC. I've been in business myself for three years now and I've been killing it. There simply isn't enough GCs right now bidding the $100k-$1mil projects. And they're so easy with little surprises for the most part. If you've done one commercial job you've done them all. I swear I've put the same color LVT down in my last three remodels. We're all making 30% right now on public bid jobs. Especially the school jobs where the architect and school board wait too late to bid the job out and don't have time for a re-bid.
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Every Trades business I know who does commercial and residential don't even bother with Commercial anymore because they all pay like shite with their monthly pay apps, net terms, etc. They are all scammers and do everything they can to not pay their trades. In other words, most commercial contractors are fricking scumbags.
I know subs are sick of hearing "I'm waiting on the owner" from the GC, but it's simply the truth. I'm waiting six weeks right now from the time I turn in the pay app to the architect on one of the two jobs I have running right now. It's a tough business, but if you have the money to stay afloat there is money to be made. For what it's worth, all of my electrical subs (I bounce around between three that have been good to me) are doing very well. The plumbers in my experience tend to be the ones that struggle, but that doesn't seem to be new from the veterans I've talked with.
This post was edited on 5/26/24 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 5/26/24 at 8:20 pm to HandMeMyWrench
2017 grad here.
I don't think there's a degree on campus that will get you to 6 figures quicker right now, especially in big commercial work.
A smart kid with a work ethic can graduate with 2 summers of internships and have a job for 70k.
A grad 5 years out can easily get get 100-150k as a PM, depending on what branch of construction they go into.
Imo, there's less high paying engineering jobs right now than CM. Most firms are a bunch of stamp holders making 120k with 2 or 3 three principals making all the money, similar to lawyers.
I don't think there's a degree on campus that will get you to 6 figures quicker right now, especially in big commercial work.
A smart kid with a work ethic can graduate with 2 summers of internships and have a job for 70k.
A grad 5 years out can easily get get 100-150k as a PM, depending on what branch of construction they go into.
Imo, there's less high paying engineering jobs right now than CM. Most firms are a bunch of stamp holders making 120k with 2 or 3 three principals making all the money, similar to lawyers.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 8:22 pm to HandMeMyWrench
Might as well just get an engineering degree if you want to be in project management. You would be more marketable, I would think.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 8:27 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Might as well just get an engineering degree if you want to be in project management. You would be more marketable, I would think.
Don't let the 'engineering' word scare you, my civil degree course load was pretty easy.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 8:45 pm to BabyTac
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Engineering and a PE license would be a better path.
Not in the pipeline construction field unless you want to work on the client side. I have hired numerous CM guys from numerous schools and if there is any advice I can offer for a CM person that wants to get into moving up the chain into being a PM, a Senior PM, and then into operations leadership is to work out in the field over the Summers. Get to know the work so you can communicate with the field guys on their level. Once you graduate you will probably be guaranteed at a minimum a Project Engineer position and if you are squared away you would probably be looking at a PM position within 5-10 years although depending on how much field experience you have and if you have any previous military experience, you could bounce right into a PM position right away.
This post was edited on 5/26/24 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 5/26/24 at 9:17 pm to Ssubba
quote:shhhhhh…LOL
there is tons of money to be made right now as a small to medium size GC. I've been in business myself for three years now and I've been killing it. There simply isn't enough GCs right now bidding the $100k-$1mil projects. And they're so easy with little surprises for the most part. If you've done one commercial job you've done them all.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 9:24 pm to cgrand
I still regret not hitting you up a few years ago. I make a good living in industrial but want to blow my brains out more often than not
Posted on 5/26/24 at 9:58 pm to FLTech
I used to know an ole baw from my hometown that dropped out of engineering and ended up in construction management at lsu. He decided chasing lsu baseball around was more important than calculus I guess. He’s bounced around on a few jobs over the years, guess he can’t keep anything steady. He couldn’t keep it in his pants and ended up knocking his high school girlfriend up 4x and moved in behind his in-laws. Now I only ever see him driving around town in his 20 year old rusted out beater truck, drinkin, chasing his wanna be travel ball kids around the park, drinkin, or cutting his mother in law’s grass next to the highway, drinkin…
This post was edited on 5/26/24 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:13 pm to Ssubba
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Don't let the 'engineering' word scare you, my civil degree course load was pretty easy.
I mean, I didn’t major in civil but strengths was pretty easy.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:48 pm to poochie
Keep going, this is well written and actually entertaining
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:59 pm to HandMeMyWrench
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He's working as a pipefitter helper with Turner and wants to get into industrial upper management.
He needs to do this every summer and winter break. The degree gets the door open. At the end of the day, the experience/contacts he gets here will be a bigger deal. I would have him consider a semester off he is on a longer term project with them and extends past the summer. Nothing beats experience. Ever.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:12 pm to HandMeMyWrench
He will prob make decent money and always be employed. But he will hate his job. Hopefully he has good co-workers because that’s the only thing that will keep him from wanting to make a career change down the road. I don’t know one Project manager that doesn’t hate their job. But I guess this can be said for just about every job lately. Nothing beats boomers that blow their load when someone rolls in 2 minutes late and they get to bitch at them about it.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:21 pm to SixthAndBarone
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b]57[/b]% of the baws on here that ACTUALLY went to LSU have construction management degrees.
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