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re: Lovable Pit Bulls at it again.

Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:55 pm to
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27591 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:55 pm to
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I only know one white person that currently owns a pit. I’m not prepared to call him white trash, but suffice it to say he makes more than his share of poor decisions.



Our Mexican neighbors had one when I was a kid. She actually was a sweet dog, but they had 6 fricking kids. She was "stolen" which goes with the thread. Either some trashy asses stole her, the daddy (who had some sense) saw it get aggressive and got rid of her, or they were shadier than we ever knew and were dog fighting people and she lost? They were shady. More than once they snuck cousins over the border under laundry in their station wagon. This would have been in the early 80's.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
12112 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:57 pm to
Shitty people def like stealing pits.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
12112 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:58 pm to
Rotts are badass also. I remember before the pit bull witch hunt, rotts were near the top of most hated. I’ve always admired them.

One bit me once haha. But it wasn’t his fault. Stupid pledgeship. That dog was awesome tho
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141559 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

other breeds may bite and cause fatalities at higher rates."


I think it says other breeds may account fot more bites. But since they are superficial in nature, they go unreported.

There are a shite ton more labs than pits. It stands to reason there may be more lab bites. They just aren’t as severe.
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 5:03 pm to
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I think it says other breeds may account fot more bites. But since they are superficial in nature, they go unreported.


No, it says fatalities. I edited my original, but I think it just means that it's possible that there's another breed (or more) that caused more deaths than pits or rots, but since the records don't always indicate breed or it's just not clear, they can't make that determination.
Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18663 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 5:07 pm to
Biggest danger with pits is the bite n shake. Most other breeds bite and latch on.
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
806 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 5:45 pm to
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but I think it just means that it's possible that there's another breed (or more) that caused more deaths than pits or rots

Rate by definition is a ratio. It's not the pure number of fatalities but the percentage of bites that lead to fatality. I read it as there's an obscure breed, kangal or cane Corso or something, where close to 100% of reported bites leads to fatality. Could just be one deadly attack, and the "rate" would be higher than that of pit or rottie.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120295 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 5:56 pm to
While people who have pitbulls say their dog is very sweet, that's not the issue. The fact is, they are often bred to fight and in many cases people inbred them (that's what it's called right?.. Inbred can be a verb?).

On top of that their jaw muscles are deadly strong. All it takes is one time for something to trigger the dog. When you are talking about kids.. especially toddlers, they are always grabbing at stuff so while a parent might be right there "watching" the dog and child, the child could quickly just grab at the dog.. Maybe hard enough the dog thinks the child is trying to hurt it and if that dog grabs on to the child then what?

I don't think anyone is saying "all pit bulls on the face of the earth are going to attack and kill all the kids in the world", it more of "that is a dangerous dog to have around kids because of the potential damage it can do to kids.. Or even other people".

If you have a pitbull and you don't have kids and you don't allow it to go around other people, then god bless you. Get as many of them as you want, but the people who are saying "my dog is the sweetest dog and would never hurt a human". Just because they are lovable and sweet more of the time doesn't change the fact that all it takes is one time. It could happen with any dog, but if a teacup poodle snaps and bites a child you can just go grab a bandaid. If it's a pitbull, then you grab the phone to call 911 because it's going to frick shite up.

What is so hard to understand about that? It's not that your dog WILL attack your child or someone else. It's IF it does... It is very likely it can do some serious damage. So if you are smart, you make decisions that will less likely put you and your family in harm's way.

But all of you people saying "he is the sweetest dog, he would never do anything". You remind me of the people that are interviewed after some jackass shoots up a place or something "he didn't seem like the type of person who would do that".
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 5:57 pm to
STFU Chris. No one is reading all that
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46416 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 5:59 pm to
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120295 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 6:03 pm to
frick you. I don't give a frick. This is a message board. I post it. If you read it, great.. If you don't I don't care.. So next time just shut the frick up and ignore my post if it bothers you.. Bitch.
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
17730 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 6:04 pm to
If I could push a button and kill every Pit in the world, I would do it with out hesitation.

Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 6:05 pm to
I see that you posted again but didn’t read it.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120295 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 6:06 pm to
You and OWL need to go jerk each other off.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141559 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 7:12 pm to
I tried to find some objective numbers. This is an article published in Time magazine.

Time

quote:

Pit bulls make up only 6% of the dog population, but they’re responsible for 68% of dog attacks and 52% of dog-related deaths since 1982, according to research compiled by Merritt Clifton, editor of Animals 24-7, an animal-news organization that focuses on humane work and animal-cruelty prevention.


even PETA thinks Pit Bulls are sketchy.

quote:

Even PETA, the largest animal-rights organization in the world, supports breed-specific sterilization for pit bulls. “Pit bulls are a breed-specific problem, so it seems reasonable to target them,” said Daphna Nachminovitch, PETA’s senior vice president of cruelty investigations. “The public is misled to believe that pit bulls are like any other dog. And they just aren’t.


If you're an animal and PETA is lobbying to have your breed sterilized into extinction, you just might be a dangerous breed.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 7:20 pm to
Solution:

Pit supporters swear its not the breed its the owner, so....Lets pass a law that owners are criminally responsible for any attacks.

If your pit kills someone we charge you with manslaughter.

If they just maul someone the victim can press felony battery charges on the owner.
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
806 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 7:54 pm to
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If you're an animal and PETA is lobbying to have your breed sterilized into extinction, you just might be a dangerous breed.



You clearly don't know the truth about PETA...they don't think ANY animals should be kept as pets.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 7:55 pm to
Love a good melt thread.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46416 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 8:09 pm to
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I could push a button and kill every Pit in the world, I would do it with out hesitation. 
So nice and tolerant of you.

I'm sure a lot of posters would say the same about you.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46416 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

Pit supporters swear its not the breed its the owner, so....Lets pass a law that owners are criminally responsible for any attacks. 

If your pit kills someone we charge you with manslaughter. 

If they just maul someone the victim can press felony battery charges on the owner.
In some states, this can happen. I'm not sure about criminal charges in Louisiana for it, but I know if something happens in LA, they'll put your dog down and you're liable for everything as far as monetary concerns. They can sue the shite out of you and take everything.

I'm not sure about other pitbull owner's feelings about it, but I, as an owner of 2 rescued pits and 1 before these 2, completely agree with you. If you can't control your dog and it hurts someone in any kind of way, I think the owner should be held responsible for it. And criminally responsible too. But, it should be for all breeds.

If you can't train your animal right and control it and it goes out and severely harms someone, that's on the owner completely.

IMO, the only exception would be if the dog is in its own fenced in property or inside its owner's house and someone up to no good goes on your property and gets hurt. That's on them and that's why many people have dogs, to protect their house and property.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 9:09 pm
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