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re: Lovable Pit Bulls at it again.

Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:29 pm to
Thank you, I just gave myself a pat on the back and acted as if it was from you.

Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:29 pm to
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finger in my girl's butt when I'm drunk and I own a pit.


This is a dog thread, not a BBQ thread?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144684 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:31 pm to
I only know one white person that currently owns a pit. I’m not prepared to call him white trash, but suffice it to say he makes more than his share of poor decisions.

To my knowledge, none of the black people I know own a pit. But I do commonly see black people in the hood walking their amazing gentle killers.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:34 pm to
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But I do commonly see black people in the hood walking their amazing gentle killers.




Good name, IMO
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:34 pm to
Colleen Lynn's sol purpose in life is to have all "pits" exterminated or BSL enacted. It's like asking an abortion doctor on the best parenting method.

LINK
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:36 pm to
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It’s within that post where I detail that 26 of the 32 (81.25%) dog-related human fatalities for 2013 involved either roaming dogs, chained/resident dogs, and/or the non-supervision of children. It was also pointed out that 17 of the 32 (53.125%) incidents had zero public evidence of what the offending dog or dogs actually looked like, only breed claims coming in the form of a media mention.


Exactly.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:38 pm to
National Canine research council. People can read the 10 year 256 DRF study for themselves.

LINK [0]=im_field_topics%3A57


Dogs like people are products of their environment
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:39 pm to
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Dogs like people are products of their environment
The OT can't comprehend something like this.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:40 pm to
That first article you linked just now is a huge mic drop. I love it. Exactly what i've been preaching in this thread. All accidents can be prevented with responsible ownership. People just don't understand dogs because people are stupid, so they just blame instead of educating themselves. It's sad
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
49211 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:40 pm to
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People just don't understand dogs because people are stupid, so they just blame instead of educating themselves. It's sad
Posted by CWS91
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:41 pm to
sounds like you need to be kenneled

Nobody's taking your dog away. But you must be one of those assholes who takes an aggressive dog to the dog park and is so surprised when a dog fight breaks out.

And my two 70+lb dogs (golden retrievers) never showed aggression in their lives. Not the size of the dog... it's the breed stupid.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by CWS91
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:43 pm to
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i'll need about 19 more credible sources from OTHER 'science editor's' who clearly understand the inner workings of genetics to ever blame the breed over the owner.


yeah, let's not have facts get in the way of your arguement
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:45 pm to
Why are you so mad bro?
Posted by LSUgirl4
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:45 pm to
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cw
dynamite post.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:45 pm to
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No its not. Your basing your facts off the press? Lol. How about actual peer reviewed studies?


Because those are far and few. Instead of all your bitching, you could have just provided this info. I searched "dog attack deaths" and never came upon this site.

What you posted is only a summary of what's in the report (which you have to pay for) and isn't exactly what we are arguing here. We aren't arguing about preventable factors in dog bite deaths, but what breeds are actually doing the damage.

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Most DBRFs were characterized by coincident, preventable factors; breed was not one of these.

This tells me is that the bites were caused by preventable factors, and not caused by the breed itself. That doesn't mean that pits weren't doing most of the deadly attacking.

I'd like to view the whole report to get the context, but not paying for a subscription.

There's another study from that site:
LINK

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Objective—To summarize breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks during a 20-year period and to assess policy implications.


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Results—During 1997 and 1998, at least 27 people died of dog bite attacks (18 in 1997 and 9 in 1998). At least 25 breeds of dogs have been involved in 238 human DBRF during the past 20 years. Pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers were involved in more than half of these deaths.


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Conclusions—Although fatal attacks on humans appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers), other breeds may bite and cause fatalities at higher rates. Because of difficulties inherent in determining a dog's breed with certainty, enforcement of breed-specific ordinances raises constitutional and practical issues.


Again, I'd like to view the whole report, as the results point toward Rots and Pits accounting for over half the deaths, but the conclusion then goes on to say that "other breeds may bite and cause fatalities at higher rates." Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Key word here is "may", and I'm guessing they put that in there because there were a lot of deaths in which the breed wasn't identified. So it's technically possible another breed could be responsible for more deaths than pits and rots, but there's not enough information for them to draw that conclusion. Take what you want with that data. I'd like to see a more updated study (couldn't find one) since pits have become much more common since the 90s.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 5:01 pm
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:49 pm to
Lost in all this... is how hilarious it is when you google image search "pitbull", how many pics of the rapper "pitbull" there are. And they're all great.



Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:54 pm to
Did you just post an opinion piece to disprove dogbites.org?

I also think you’re the only person to have even brought up that site to begin with.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:55 pm to
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Colleen Lynn's sol purpose in life is to have all "pits" exterminated or BSL enacted. It's like asking an abortion doctor on the best parenting method.


You just posted a link to basically a blog of a pit lover, blasting the dogbites.org data. So whatever...the dogbite data may have been compiled by a biased person, but that doesn't make it incorrect. It means we should be skeptical, not just dismiss it. Regardless, I already found a peer reviewed study, like you requested, that showed that pits were one of the main breeds attributed to fatalities from '79-98, before they were even all that common as they have been the last 20 years.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 4:58 pm
Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:55 pm to

Rotties>Pitbulls

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