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re: Louisiana State driving laws, state troopers, l.e. question

Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:47 am to
Posted by Thacian
USA
Member since Aug 2015
2173 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:47 am to
Lol
Posted by Tiger4Ever
Member since Aug 2003
36790 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:47 am to
If not in a no passing zone driver 1 likely at fault. I could see where it’s possivle that circumstances may lead to varying degrees of fault.

Fault isn’t necessarily a zero sum game as both parties could contribute. I’d say depends on the situation.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44349 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:49 am to
quote:

As long as the road is dashed it is Driver 1's fault.



How do you come to this conclusion?
Posted by Thacian
USA
Member since Aug 2015
2173 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:50 am to
The reason I have a concern with this...is same thing happened to me years ago and the trooper said d1 was at fault, I was d2 in my scenio....d1 was given a ticket for failure to yield to all traffic....in this "current" situation d1 wasn't given a ticket....deputy said insurance companies will figure out...
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7158 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:51 am to
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it didn't matter if he had signal,


It may not matter in the legal sense but it certainly goes a long way toward determining how big of a dumbass driver 2 is.

It would be idiotic to pass to the left of a car signalling a left turn.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:52 am to
quote:

who is at fault?

Driver 2
quote:

Cite the law if possible...

Don't drive like a moron
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56012 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:52 am to
quote:


D1 was sitting in road for 30 second not doing anything,


This seems like a very important detail that you left out of the original question.
Posted by Thacian
USA
Member since Aug 2015
2173 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:52 am to
D2 said d1 had no signal on...or he wouldn't of passed d1...
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82713 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:53 am to
Driver 1, Driver 2 had possession of that lane first...I know someone who was in the very exact situation and they were driver 1
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:54 am to
Louisiana Law Review has a paper on this very subject.

Turn left at your own peril. In a left turn, it is your responsibility to make sure you can complete the turn safely. You incur the presumption of fault in a collision and will have to convince the court otherwise.

Liability in left turn collisions
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 11:58 am
Posted by Thacian
USA
Member since Aug 2015
2173 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:54 am to
I'm not following u, how does d2 have possession first when d1 was in front of d2
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82713 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:55 am to
Possession of left/oncoming lane
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:56 am to
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My understanding is driver 1 is at fault....


I don't see the logic to your "understanding".

quote:

Yes driver 1 is at fault. He must yield to oncoming traffic

Traffic was not "oncoming" it was passing from behind.

quote:

D1 was sitting in road for 30 second not doing anything,


Really? D1 was sitting for 30 seconds? You know how long 30 seconds is? You know how far back behind D1 that D2 would have been approaching from to have been able to observe him sitting for 30 seconds?

Oh, and....
quote:

Driver 1 is driving and slowing to a stop to turn left into a private driveway on a rural hwy(country hwy). Driver 2 , is behind driver 1 and as he comes up behind driver 1, he sees he is just stopped in road, as driver 2 sees this ,he attempts to over take or pass driver 1


You might wanna clear up those conflicting details before you talk to the judge.

Regardless, #2 is in the wrong. Just basic common sense says you don't pass thru an intersection.
Posted by Thacian
USA
Member since Aug 2015
2173 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:56 am to
Got ya....
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82713 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:57 am to
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82713 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Traffic was not "oncoming" it was passing from behind.

Doesn't matter, oncoming or not driver 2 had possession of the lane first
Posted by Rabbs and QStick
Texas
Member since Apr 2012
3011 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:58 am to
OP:



Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75911 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Driver 1 is driving and slowing to a stop to turn left into a private driveway on a rural hwy(country hwy).


This person is supposed to put on their left turn signal and pull over to the right to allow any cars behind him to go through before pulling into the private driveway.

They were at fault for sitting in the road instead of pulling over.

Driver 2 probably has some fault as well.
Posted by AnActualFan
Work
Member since Mar 2010
927 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:59 am to
They both share responsibility here. You can argue the percentages.

Person making left turn is likely majority at fault.

Also, need point of impact to better understand how the impact occurred.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56012 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:59 am to
What if it is a non-passing zone though?
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