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Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:28 pm to Thacian
Determining fault in an accident is tricky. Especially when none or multiple violations occur.
One thing to remember is on most accident reports, the vehicle listed at #1 is likely the one at fault. Also understand "fault" is determined by the driver that last had the ability to avoid the accident. This is for those situations where a person knows they are in the right but sees and accident is about to occur but does not try to avoid it.
In the scenario posted by the OP, the "fault" lies on the driver making the left turn, as long as this occurred in a passing zone. The approaching vehicle has already made a move to overtake the turning vehicle. There is a responsibility on a driver when crossing a lane of traffic to make sure it is clear and safe to do so.
La RS 32:104 A. No person shall turn a vehicle at an intersection unless the vehicle is in proper position upon the roadway as required in R.S. 32:101, or turn a vehicle to enter a private road or driveway, or otherwise turn a vehicle from a direct course or move right or left upon a roadway unless and until such movement can be made with reasonable safety.
One thing to remember is on most accident reports, the vehicle listed at #1 is likely the one at fault. Also understand "fault" is determined by the driver that last had the ability to avoid the accident. This is for those situations where a person knows they are in the right but sees and accident is about to occur but does not try to avoid it.
In the scenario posted by the OP, the "fault" lies on the driver making the left turn, as long as this occurred in a passing zone. The approaching vehicle has already made a move to overtake the turning vehicle. There is a responsibility on a driver when crossing a lane of traffic to make sure it is clear and safe to do so.
La RS 32:104 A. No person shall turn a vehicle at an intersection unless the vehicle is in proper position upon the roadway as required in R.S. 32:101, or turn a vehicle to enter a private road or driveway, or otherwise turn a vehicle from a direct course or move right or left upon a roadway unless and until such movement can be made with reasonable safety.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:30 pm to Thacian
Have you already told us which driver you were?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:30 pm to Thacian
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My understanding is driver 1 is at fault....
Not necessarily
It depends who started first.... if the vehicle 1 was already turning my when vehicle 2 began to pass....vehicle 2 is at fault.
If vehicle 2 was already in the act of passing when vehicle 1 began to tune then vehicle 1 is at fault.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:31 pm to LSUsmartass
He hasn’t, but gave conflicting stories of what the left turning vehicle was doing and for how long.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:32 pm to Team Alpha Beast
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The state traffic regulatory statute, LSA-R.S. 32:221 et seq., prescribes the duties of a motorist driving a vehicle about to make a left turn. The act in Section 235 provides such a driver shall ascertain before turning there is no traffic approaching from either direction which will be unduly delayed, that he shall yield the right-of-way to such approaching traffic and not attempt to make a turn unless the way is clear.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:35 pm to LSUsmartass
Whoever is first in the lane has the right of way ....the other vehicle has to yield to it before it can enter the lane.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:37 pm to Thacian
70% fault on Driver 1
30% fault on Driver 2
Changes if Driver 1 wasn't using a turn signal. You aren't going to get a statute citation. Fault attribution is up to the Judge or Jury. Above is just my opinion.
30% fault on Driver 2
Changes if Driver 1 wasn't using a turn signal. You aren't going to get a statute citation. Fault attribution is up to the Judge or Jury. Above is just my opinion.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:39 pm to Thacian
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Driver 1 is driving and slowing to a stop to turn left into a private driveway on a rural hwy(country hwy). Driver 2 , is behind driver 1 and as he comes up behind driver 1, he sees he is just stopped in road, as driver 2 sees this ,he attempts to over take or pass driver 1, at this moment driver 1 decides to turn left forcing driver 2 off the road as he is passing him and wrecks unit a light pole and fence....who is at fault? Cite the law if possible...
My understanding is driver 1 is at fault....
I was in this exact situation before just outside Clinton on HWY 10. Turning left into a private drive when I got rear ended by someone trying to pass. Was shocked when i was found to be at fault because I was turning into a private drive. If it had been a store or something like that instead then the other guy would have been at fault.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:44 pm to Thacian
Driver 1 is at fault, driver 2 had taken control of the other lane. Driver 1 then entered that lane, causing driver 2 to run off the road.
This is all assuming that this is a legal passing zone.
This is all assuming that this is a legal passing zone.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:44 pm to CaptainsWafer
A witness said the car was jus sitting there in road, d1 made a winding curve 100 yards behind d1,d2 heading toward d1 and the car never moved, so as d2 approached car he started to pass/overtake him, then d1 turns left running d1 off road into a light pole and fence....
D1 is at fault....
D1 is at fault....
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:45 pm to Sayre
In my case I was stopped just past the crest of a hill turning left with another vehicle directly behind me. The other vehicle was a truck pulling a cattle trailer. They had a dude driving a Crown Vic at a high rate of speed who crested the hill and saw the truck/trailer but not me. He moved over to pass and then I pop out from in front the truck/trailer turning into someone's driveway. He slammed me in the arse almost breaking my neck and spun me 360 deg into a ditch. The Crown Vic was totaled on the spot, with the horn just blaring. The 85 Toyota pickup I was driving that day was mostly fine. I drove it out the ditch and on home when all was said and done.
This happened in August of 2004.
This happened in August of 2004.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:46 pm to burgeman
It was a yellow dashed line
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:49 pm to Thacian
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It was a yellow dashed line
Regardless you have to yield to any vehicles in a lane before you enter that lane.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:51 pm to Thacian
You never want to be Driver #1 on the police report.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:52 pm to Team Alpha Beast
Sounds like vehicle 1 would be at fault if vehicle 2 took control of the opposite lane prior to v1 attempting to make left hand turn.
Edit: I agree with burgman.
Edit: I agree with burgman.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:53 pm to VerbalKint
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Sounds like vehicle 1 would be at fault if vehicle 2 took control of the opposite lane prior to v1 attempting to make left hand turn.
Exactly
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:02 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Driver 2 tries to pass driver 1 as driver 1 is making a left turn? Drive 2 should have his (or her) license revoked. That accident is clearly his (or her) fault.
+1
People have to turn left off of two lane highways all the time. If they're signaling a left turn, don't see why it would be driver 1's fault.
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