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re: Louisiana Scaffold Builder wins $411 million Verdict. Largest in Louisiana History.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:34 am to dallastigers
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:34 am to dallastigers
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EBR courts, judges, and juries have gotten a lot dumber in the last 20 years.
Thank you Judge John Parker
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:36 am to ThighMeat
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OT lawyers how are they getting these numbers when the employee is limited to what Workers Comp pays? Or is there a way to remove workers comp from the matter? Or is all of that just part of the appeal?
Despite the Louisiana Supreme Court being very clear that an intentional tort to excape workers comp exclusivity means an intentional tort, the judge concluded that gross negligence = intentional tort and denied summary judgment.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 10:41 am
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:36 am to dallastigers
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which will also be minus the 1/3 pocketed by attorneys
Unless he fixed the percentage, It'll be 50% by the time they get all their fees added up.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:43 am to JohnnyBgood
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I never understood how a district attorney is allowed to hold a private practice and represent plaintiffs in civil trial. Clayton is almost always involved in every high-profile injury case.
Multiple houses on False River ain’t cheap.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:57 am to ruzil
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Terrible for Jose'.
In 1983, I was working on a scaffolding crew on Waterford III construction. I was put on a crew with a guy named Mike Hill who the job foreman described exactly the same as the dude in the article.
I was lucky as the foreman pulled me aside and told me never to work directly below this dude as he constantly dropped tools and was prone to doing idiot things. He also told me never take my hard hat off, ever!
Luckily, I managed to make it through the summer job without incident.
One of, if not the single most dangerous jobs on a construction site or an operating plant is scaffold building. This is why companies exist who do nothing but build scaffold.....they assume all of the risk and many plants and sites will not allow anyone without a stellar track record building scaffolds on their property. Its basically climbing on and clamping together pipes that are not fixed in place until you are done. Its damned dangerous. Even building masonry scaffolding (sectioned scaffolding or portable scaffolding) is dangerous. A sizeable portion of any adequate hazard analysis process will include trying to find a way to avoid working at heights from scaffolding, not because working from scaffolding is any more dangerous than any elevated platform, but because erecting scaffolding is incredible dangerous.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:00 am to udtiger
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And people wonder why businesses won't come here.
Yeah what's a dead, or even worse maimed, employee here and there when jobs are at stake. Ought to just tell employers that as long as they don't kill more than 10% of their workforce a year or cripple more than 5% they will face NO reprisal when the inevitable happens.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:05 am to AwgustaDawg
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One of, if not the single most dangerous jobs on a construction site or an operating plant is scaffold building.
It's a damn shame that they are the lowest paid contractors on the site. They are the first craft needed for a turnaround and then are usually the last ones to leave the site after the turnaround is over.
I worked for Brock at their Baton Rouge office years ago and was made aware of several incidents that took place and was never reported.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:08 am to Chastains
Governor Landry should deport this guy and his billboard lawyers too
Keep Louisiana companies safe from predatory employees and evil lawyers
Keep Louisiana companies safe from predatory employees and evil lawyers
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:09 am to AwgustaDawg
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And people wonder why businesses won't come here.
Yeah what's a dead, or even worse maimed, employee here and there when jobs are at stake. Ought to just tell employers that as long as they don't kill more than 10% of their workforce a year or cripple more than 5% they will face NO reprisal when the inevitable happens.
Don't be stupid.
Ignoring whether this case was even proper because of workers comp exclusivity, the damage amount is retardedly high. No one is saying the guy isn't hurt and wasnt deserving of compensation for his injuries.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 11:10 am
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:11 am to forkedintheroad
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Anyone who celebrates this verdict has zero room to bitch about the cost of insurance.
This is true
When I see stuff like this it raises a lot of questions for me that I know will never get answered and its sad that stuff like this even happen. I have been doing plant type work for 30 years. I have seen workers who I just know are faking but I couldn't prove it and they get paid. Then there are others that legitimately get hurt and have long term issues and need help but get little to nothing. The whole system is corrupt.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:12 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
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It's a damn shame that they are the lowest paid contractors on the site. They are the first craft needed for a turnaround and then are usually the last ones to leave the site after the turnaround is over.
This is the truth. Years ago I was general super on a refueling outage and the scaffolding GF was on site about 3 weeks before me and was there with a skeleton crew about a month after I left LOL. He was about the best scaffolding GF I ever worked with....his default response to any scaffolding request was "have you tried to come up with a way to get the work done in any other way"? and many times the answer, that he would come up with, was no, here is a much better way to do the work.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:15 am to LSUFanHouston
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I would give almost all of it to charity
You coming out of pocket for literal brain surgery?
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:19 am to AwgustaDawg
quote:100% correct
A sizeable portion of any adequate hazard analysis process will include trying to find a way to avoid working at heights from scaffolding, not because working from scaffolding is any more dangerous than any elevated platform, but because erecting scaffolding is incredible dangerous.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:21 am to udtiger
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Don't be stupid.
Ignoring whether this case was even proper because of workers comp exclusivity, the damage amount is retardedly high. No one is saying the guy isn't hurt and wasnt deserving of compensation for his injuries.
I would posit that the people on the Jury and the Judge are probably the most informed people involved other than the attorney's and the plaintiff. I would also posit that of that group only the defendant's and their gang of attorneys are in a position to complain.....anyone is entitled to an opinion but they are akin to assholes, everyone has one and most smell.
The defendant should have had adequate representation....if they did not that is no one's fault but their own. Their legal team most likely informed them of the risks they faced...had they failed to do so they were remiss and the client has recourse. In all likelihood the defendant arrogantly thought they could bully the plaintiff into submission and face very few if any damages. They grossly miscalculated. Presumably they are in business in the state the case was tried in....they should have known the risks....if they did not, again, that is on them and them alone. A further limit of exposure for employees beyond that ample protection already in place in the form of workers compensation is about as intrusive into private affairs as the state could possibly get...as bad or worse than sodomy laws.....
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:42 am to AwgustaDawg
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I would posit that the people on the Jury and the Judge are probably the most informed people involved other than the attorney's and the plaintiff
Lololololololol
In terms of the law on w/c exclusivity and the difference between compensatory and punitive damages? Doubtful.
Also, FYI, those plaintiff's attorneys that know so much only asked for $170 million.
They did too good of a job inflaming the jury.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 11:45 am
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:46 am to AwgustaDawg
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Their legal team most likely informed them of the risks they faced...had they failed to do so they were remiss and the client has recourse. In all likelihood the defendant arrogantly thought they could bully the plaintiff into submission and face very few if any damages. They grossly miscalculated.
But all that is a moot point if it falls under the worker's compensation regime. I'm not saying it does or it does not. Like you, I don't know all of the facts. And again it's a high burden for a plaintiff to overcome. If plaintiff did overcome that burden, no doubt the general damages award will be reduced by the trial court on JNOV or by the appellate court. No matter how unsympathetic the defendant is, there are no punitive damages allowed...only compensatory damages. No doubt the victim should be compensated for his injuries (whether in workers' comp or in tort), but the damage award cannot be used to punish the defendant.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 11:48 am
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:49 am to AwgustaDawg
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I would posit that the people on the Jury and the Judge are probably the most informed people involved
Hang around the 19th JDC a little while...your opinion might change.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:50 am to AwgustaDawg
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but because erecting scaffolding is incredible dangerous.
It really is. Working on them is a risk as well.
The worst case I heard about when I was in the plant industry was an accident that happened in south Texas somewhere along the water.
The scaffolding fell over into the water and two guys drowned because they were tethered to the scaffold and had on tool belts.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:24 pm to Kolbysfan
I'm not going back to research it, but what I read was specifically that they tried to cover it up.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 1:43 pm to spslayto
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But all that is a moot point if it falls under the worker's compensation regime. I'm not saying it does or it does not. Like you, I don't know all of the facts. And again it's a high burden for a plaintiff to overcome. If plaintiff did overcome that burden, no doubt the general damages award will be reduced by the trial court on JNOV or by the appellate court. No matter how unsympathetic the defendant is, there are no punitive damages allowed...only compensatory damages. No doubt the victim should be compensated for his injuries (whether in workers' comp or in tort), but the damage award cannot be used to punish the defendant.
So there is no need to further reduce the ability of someone damaged to seek redress if this is the case....its already done. The plaintiff will have to settle if they are to ever see any of their actual damages paid. In that case it is a win win situation...the plaintiff is made as whole as the law allows and the defendant is not subject to the vagaries of a jury BUT others in the industry will see what could happen IF the law did not favor the defendant and may be more careful less the laws change and expose them to the actual risk and not that which is limited by the state.
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