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re: Louisiana Ice Storm Thread *Winter Storm Warning*

Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:46 am to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:46 am to
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Um, I'm pretty sure science tells us that if it's below 32 (using the Fahrenheit system)it will snow.

Trust the science.



Nah.

It depends on the temperature of the layers of air before the precipitation even hits the ground. If there's a warm layer of air sandwiched in there, you're not getting snow. You're getting sleet or freezing rain.

Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:46 am to
I would think that most would prefer snow over sleet and ice...... driving on snow is way different than driving on ice.......and people in the BR area can’t drive when it’s just raining......
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50563 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:48 am to
quote:


Um, I'm pretty sure science tells us that if it's below 32 (using the Fahrenheit system)it will snow.

Trust the science.

I'm pretty sure that's bullshite.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:48 am to
quote:

and people in the BR area can’t drive when it’s just raining......

people in Baton Rouge can't drive when it's sunny and pleasant
Posted by Jim Cornette
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:50 am to
When I say maybe snow I mean maybe a half inch but the most likely scenario is ice storm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:50 am to
quote:

I'm pretty sure that's bullshite.


Did you know it’s possible for water to be in a state of liquid, gas, and solid at the same time?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50563 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:50 am to
Canadian model came in with multiple rounds of ice/sleet for us. Here are a couple highlights for Monday.


Monday 6:00am



Monday noon



Monday 6:00pm






Total ice accumulation:

This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 10:52 am
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:51 am to
quote:

weather underground starting to believe



They are buying into the Sunday houston snow as well.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147072 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:52 am to
CenLA... our baw chimes in

quote:

Meteorologist Nick Mikulas
There are so many words to type. We have several winter’s worth of threats in the next week, so I’ll mention each possibility, but the main focus will go to the Monday storm.
Friday...
This chance is marginal, and shouldn’t be a huge deal. Temperatures will be in the 31-35 range across the area as light rain falls. The best chance to see some freezing rain will be north of a line from Anacoco to Pollock to Jonesville. Amounts should be light, and as we get to around noon, most of us will warm to just above freezing. This would mainly bring a little ice to the trees, and maybe cause a few slick bridges. We could also stay just above freezing areawide. This would usually be headline news, but it’s probably our most “meh” possibility in the next week.
Saturday....
I think we stay just warm enough, and any precipitation will be very light. Don’t sweat Saturday unless I change my mind. Embrace Saturday.
Sunday...
This is where things start to get tricky. A reinforcing shot of cold air heads our way, as a significant storm system moves toward the area. A lead impulse may bring us some light freezing rain, especially late in the day. As temperatures really start to plunge Sunday night, roads should become pretty bad. Even with just light amounts of precipitation. Models are trending a bit heavier on this, so you’ll want to plan on having any shopping done before Sunday.
Monday into Monday night...
This is the main show, and has the potential to be a big one. You know I do my best to stay hype free. I’ll continue this impressive streak of being a decent human, but won’t sugar coat the potential so you have ample time to prepare for the *potential* of a disruptive winter storm. Disruptive could mean impassable roads, closed bridges, power outages, and extreme cold to go along with the power outages. There are still scenarios where this stays fairly tame, but my confidence is up to 70-80% that we will see a significant ice storm in the area. It could easily impact all of Central Louisiana. I classify Central Louisiana as Rapides, Vernon, Avoyelles, Grant, Sabine, Natchitoches, Winn, LaSalle, Catahoula, Concordia, Beauregard, Allen, Evangeline, and St. Landry Parishes. The details that will be crucial are, how cold do we get, and what form will most of the precipitation fall as? If we are 20 degrees with sleet, that’s an entirely different animal than 27 and freezing rain. Sleet bounces off tree limbs and power lines. Freezing rain, and those very cold temperatures, freezes on everything, and can cause damage to trees and power lines. Models are showing 1/2 to 1 inch of liquid from this storm. Some slightly higher. The low end of these amounts would cause power outages, and tree damage, especially with all the limbs we already have dangling from all those hurricanes. At this time, I think freezing rain will be the dominant precipitation type in most of our area, but a colder airmass would mean more sleet. The main message here is that you should start to plan for an ice storm, and while chances are as high as they get 3-4 days out, it’s not definite. We aren’t even in the range of the high resolution models for the main event, but global models are really honing in on a significant winter storm over a large part of the Deep South. This might extend all the way down to I-10. Behind this system, it looks fairly certain we will see lows down into the teens, with temperatures possibly as low as 10 degrees. That’s a pipe busting freeze, after a potentially major ice storm. There’s room for change, but it’s time to plan ahead.
Later in the week…
There’s another potential system, but the details are a few days away from being resolved at all, so don’t sweat this. This could fade from being an issue, and we have plenty more to watch before that. I’ll update this if it starts to look likely, but for now, it’s an interesting footnote on a wild week.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50563 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:56 am to
quote:

When I say maybe snow I mean maybe a half inch but the most likely scenario is ice storm

Baton Rouge won't even get a half inch of snow. The layer just above the surface is barely thick enough to allow for sleet, snow is almost entirely out of the question. Our best chances are for freezing rain and sleet and although I'm no professional, I'd give our chances of seeing snow in the Baton Rouge area at 5%.


Look at this sounding for the Baton Rouge area at noon Monday according to the Canadian model. The red line is the temperature. The air above the surface doesn't get to 0 degrees Celsius (freezing) until around 3000 feet up. It will be all snow until around 19,000 feet or so then will melt and it might have time to refreeze into sleet pellets once it falls to the 3000 ft altitude. Chances are the Baton Rouge area will see only freezing rain and sleet.


This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 11:02 am
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82739 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:58 am to
Is Jay Grimes still saying this will be a nothing-burger?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Don’t sweat Saturday unless I change my mind. Embrace Saturday.

Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:00 am to
quote:

You know I do my best to stay hype free. I’ll continue this impressive streak of being a decent human, but won’t sugar coat the potential so you have ample time to prepare for the *potential* of a disruptive winter storm. Disruptive could mean impassable roads, closed bridges, power outages, and extreme cold to go along with the power outages. There are still scenarios where this stays fairly tame, but my confidence is up to 70-80% that we will see a significant ice storm in the area. It could easily impact all of Central Louisiana. I classify Central Louisiana as Rapides, Vernon, Avoyelles, Grant, Sabine, Natchitoches, Winn, LaSalle, Catahoula, Concordia, Beauregard, Allen, Evangeline, and St. Landry Parishes.


quote:

The main message here is that you should start to plan for an ice storm, and while chances are as high as they get 3-4 days out, it’s not definite. We aren’t even in the range of the high resolution models for the main event, but global models are really honing in on a significant winter storm over a large part of the Deep South. This might extend all the way down to I-10.



quote:

Later in the week…
There’s another potential system, but the details are a few days away from being resolved at all, so don’t sweat this. This could fade from being an issue, and we have plenty more to watch before that. I’ll update this if it starts to look likely, but for now, it’s an interesting footnote on a wild week.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216435 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:01 am to
Why do I have a strange feeling you WANT this to happen???????
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82739 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:02 am to
What's your prediction pj?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50563 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:03 am to
quote:

Why do I have a strange feeling you WANT this to happen???????


Because I do want it. I love winter weather! Bring this shite on. I have all I need to hunker down safely in my home and survive. I want to see record low temps, record ice, the works. Let the downvotes rain!
This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 11:05 am
Posted by Jim Cornette
Member since Feb 2021
7 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:05 am to
So basically the party is at tds gumbo house
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Because I do want it


I'd want snow.

Not freezing rain that could cripple the area. I've had enough life altering weather to last me a while.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38417 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:06 am to
quote:

I love winter weather!

Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105223 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:06 am to
quote:

Meteorologist Nick Mikulas
48m ·
There are so many words to type. We have several winter’s worth of threats in the next week, so I’ll mention each possibility, but the main focus will go to the Monday storm.
Friday...
This chance is marginal, and shouldn’t be a huge deal. Temperatures will be in the 31-35 range across the area as light rain falls. The best chance to see some freezing rain will be north of a line from Anacoco to Pollock to Jonesville. Amounts should be light, and as we get to around noon, most of us will warm to just above freezing. This would mainly bring a little ice to the trees, and maybe cause a few slick bridges. We could also stay just above freezing areawide. This would usually be headline news, but it’s probably our most “meh” possibility in the next week.
Saturday....
I think we stay just warm enough, and any precipitation will be very light. Don’t sweat Saturday unless I change my mind. Embrace Saturday.
Sunday...
This is where things start to get tricky. A reinforcing shot of cold air heads our way, as a significant storm system moves toward the area. A lead impulse may bring us some light freezing rain, especially late in the day. As temperatures really start to plunge Sunday night, roads should become pretty bad. Even with just light amounts of precipitation. Models are trending a bit heavier on this, so you’ll want to plan on having any shopping done before Sunday.
Monday into Monday night...
This is the main show, and has the potential to be a big one. You know I do my best to stay hype free. I’ll continue this impressive streak of being a decent human, but won’t sugar coat the potential so you have ample time to prepare for the *potential* of a disruptive winter storm. Disruptive could mean impassable roads, closed bridges, power outages, and extreme cold to go along with the power outages. There are still scenarios where this stays fairly tame, but my confidence is up to 70-80% that we will see a significant ice storm in the area. It could easily impact all of Central Louisiana. I classify Central Louisiana as Rapides, Vernon, Avoyelles, Grant, Sabine, Natchitoches, Winn, LaSalle, Catahoula, Concordia, Beauregard, Allen, Evangeline, and St. Landry Parishes. The details that will be crucial are, how cold do we get, and what form will most of the precipitation fall as? If we are 20 degrees with sleet, that’s an entirely different animal than 27 and freezing rain. Sleet bounces off tree limbs and power lines. Freezing rain, and those very cold temperatures, freezes on everything, and can cause damage to trees and power lines. Models are showing 1/2 to 1 inch of liquid from this storm. Some slightly higher. The low end of these amounts would cause power outages, and tree damage, especially with all the limbs we already have dangling from all those hurricanes. At this time, I think freezing rain will be the dominant precipitation type in most of our area, but a colder airmass would mean more sleet. The main message here is that you should start to plan for an ice storm, and while chances are as high as they get 3-4 days out, it’s not definite. We aren’t even in the range of the high resolution models for the main event, but global models are really honing in on a significant winter storm over a large part of the Deep South. This might extend all the way down to I-10. Behind this system, it looks fairly certain we will see lows down into the teens, with temperatures possibly as low as 10 degrees. That’s a pipe busting freeze, after a potentially major ice storm. There’s room for change, but it’s time to plan ahead.
Later in the week…
There’s another potential system, but the details are a few days away from being resolved at all, so don’t sweat this. This could fade from being an issue, and we have plenty more to watch before that. I’ll update this if it starts to look likely, but for now, it’s an interesting footnote on a wild week.

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