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re: Louisiana has Road Map to be More EV Friendly

Posted on 12/5/22 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 3:44 pm to
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That's why they have so many EVs to begin with.


Lol
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 3:45 pm to
i don’t have anything against your precious EV’s. And I haven’t posted anything to prove otherwise. So, yeah you seem angry.
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Das Jackal
Da Bayou
Member since Sep 2011
2604 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 3:45 pm to
Of all things for us to worry about..
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28746 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 3:54 pm to
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i don’t have anything against your precious EV’s. And I haven’t posted anything to prove otherwise. So, yeah you seem angry.
I wasn't even talking to you ITT. You inserted yourself just to try to pick a fight. And you seemingly didn't even read enough to recognize that I'm mirroring another poster's language. And now, since you failed with that "angry" angle, now you're trying to act like you and I have been arguing over EVs (which we have not), and that's why I'm "angry".

And why? Because I'm not mad about black santa in that other thread?
Posted by BigWillyMetry
Member since Dec 2021
1548 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 4:20 pm to
How’s that? It can’t handle any disruptions now?

And how are you going to fuel all this electricity? Nat gas ? So nat gas is going to be $30/m huh? 100 million+ homes aren’t going to have solar panels anytime soon even then that’s not going to magically solve the energy need
Posted by modes
Member since May 2017
258 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 4:25 pm to
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Powerman


Checks out.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28746 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 4:48 pm to
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And how are you going to fuel all this electricity? Nat gas ? So nat gas is going to be $30/m huh?
Do you think people had the same concerns about where all the gasoline was going to come from a hundred years ago?

But to answer your question, natgas, coal, solar, wind, nuclear, wave/tide, geothermal, etc. Whatever works economically by region. The diversity of possible energy sources ensures long term downward price pressure and stability.
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100 million+ homes aren’t going to have solar panels anytime soon even then that’s not going to magically solve the energy need
Magic is not necessary. A 100% EV fleet in the US would represent about a 25-30% increase over our other electricity consumption. And given that it will take 20-30 years to achieve that level of adoption, that means we will have to increase electricity production by roughly 1% per year. We managed to increase production at a much higher rate than that in the 90s when computers began to proliferate.

We actually have more than enough generation capacity today to handle the needs of a 100% EV fleet, if the majority of charging is done during typical off-peak hours. Worst case though the infrastructure improvement would need to happen at a slower pace than we've achieved in the past.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96899 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 4:50 pm to
Newsflash - Travelers will bypass LA unless they are going to New Orleans or a football game in BR.

Crime is a bigger impact on that than EV charging stations.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119532 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:11 pm to
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A gallon of fuel burned in a generator to charge an EV will drive it further than burning the same gallon directly in a similar ICE vehicle.






Typical ICE efficiency is 20%. This is chemical bond energy to mechanical energy to move the vehicle.

Typical natural gas turbine electric generation efficiency is about 30%.

In both scenarios you are breaking approximately the same number of carbon/hydrogen bonds despite gasoline containing mostly C6 molecules and natural gas containing just one C molecule to produce that energy.

The next issue for natural gas turbine electric generation is electrical transmission losses. This will vary drastically depending on how close your charging station is to the electrical generation station.

On one to one basis you might be saving a few Cs from getting converted to CO2 if you are using natural gas, but not much. The key is to use hydrogen, hyrdo, geo, nuclear, ammonia, wind, solar, etc. as your source of electricity production.

With that said you can capture the CO2 form the natural gas electricity plant and sequester it. But sequestration is not really solving the problem. Sequestration is just an oxygen mining project. 12/44 is the carbon from the fuel and 32/44 is the oxygen from the air. It would be better just to let that carbon dioxide cycle naturally through the carbon cycle, IMO. We need our oxygen.

This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:11 pm to
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And why? Because I'm not mad about black santa in that other thread?


if you read my posts in that thread, I also am not mad about Black Santa. just sayin…and if i seem upset in the other thread it’s because …some folks won’t admit that the act was strictly for virtue signaling points and those same folks get off by telling others to “deal with it” and “your idea of tradition is nonsense to begin with”
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 5:15 pm
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4011 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:20 pm to
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folks who are traveling in a growing national fleet of electric vehicles will bypass us


Oh thank god
Posted by Nobs
Houston
Member since Dec 2010
377 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:06 pm to
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So we are loaning money to private companies on the basis that they build charge stations in Louisiana?

Or we are forking over cash for this to happen directly


It's a grant program. The federal government is providing incentives for private developers to install the charging infrastructure. The program outlines the requirements to qualify. Think retail, grocery, restaurants, etc that want to offer this service to their customers. You submit a proposal to the state and see if you are awarded the funds.

The company I work for is pretty deep in this program right now with Ohio as they are the first state to issue the requirements.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162295 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:10 pm to
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These charge stations will have backup diesel power. You will have to in Louisiana. So it will cost more to power those to charge your car than it would be to just fill my car.

Making things up on a whim can be fun but it's also stupid
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