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re: Louisiana guts net metering for Solar which kills the industry in Louisiana

Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by rblank6061
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:43 pm to
The only public the Public Service Commission serves is the board members of the utility and insurance companies. They are deep in their pockets looking for the next campaign contribution or cushy job offer.
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:44 pm to
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Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76118 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:45 pm to
I'm not the public service commission, you don't have to blow smoke up my arse.


No way Entergy, with the outdated systems they have, suddenly decide to invest in these new meters if it doesn't save them an assload of money.

I have a pole in front of my house that is supported only by the wire, it falls and opens them up to tons of losses. Those frickers don't give 2 fricks.
This post was edited on 9/15/19 at 10:47 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23307 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:46 pm to
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You are making them bear the infrastructure costs on both ends though.




They aren’t getting government subsidies elsewhere outside of directly from their customer billing?

Let’s not act like these utility companies are producing a dang thing. Most of them are nothing but a middle man doing the governments work for a profit. Now someone like Gulf Power is a little different, but they are suckling the tax payers teet almost as bad.

There’s tons of utility companies that have a hard time producing enough during the peak times. If they can get a little from their customers and basically break even or just s marginal loss I don’t see the issue here.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:47 pm to
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Solar is more expensive than fossil, nuclear, hydro unless it is subsidized
Posted by graychef
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Posted by rblank6061
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
130 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:47 pm to
But they took that kilowatt I made on my solar, gave me a credit for it, then turned around and sold it to someone else who does not have solar. I think they should break even in that deal.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76118 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:48 pm to
While I agree, you are producing energy just like Entergy.

Why should you be treated different in their eyes?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76118 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:49 pm to
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But they took that kilowatt I made on my solar, gave me a credit for it, then turned around and sold it to someone else who does not have solar. I think they should break even in that deal.


How did it get from your panels to the Costco across town? You brought it in a box?
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:52 pm to
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Posted by rblank6061
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
130 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:53 pm to
I am in a chemical plant right now where my unit is using 907 kW instantaneous from Entergy. We are one of the smaller consumers on site. I wish our 3 boilers were hooked to generators to subsidized power to site and save some cost. Problem is our millwrights can't fix and maintain a steam turbine to save their life, so I guess that'll never happen.
Posted by reggieray420
Member since Dec 2016
2700 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:56 pm to
If it has to do with anything remotely "progressive", you can be sure rednecks will irrationally hate it.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:57 pm to
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Nah man, they are definitley paying the federal government private lease dollars


Sweet.

And I KNOW they are helping defray the negative externalities.
Posted by rblank6061
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
130 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:58 pm to
Cause I also pay the monthly service fees, hurricane repair and preparation fees to provide money for their overhead on top of that $0.06. That is also naively assuming they are breaking even on $0.06 per kilowatt and not have profit built into that.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76118 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:59 pm to
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If it has to do with anything remotely "progressive", you can be sure rednecks will irrationally hate it.


It's actually regressive.

It allows the public utility to set the price for infrastructure, but without having to give up their monopolized public utility standing.

Basically, they are controlling the powerplants and the infrastructure in two separate entities, while saying it is better that no one compete with them in either.

Funny, because we are uniquely positioned with a lot of cogen units at our disposal to allow a small time energy seller to disrupt the market.


On the other hand we have some of the cheapest energy prices in the nation.
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:00 pm to
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Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:01 pm to
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While I agree, you are producing energy just like Entergy.

Why should you be treated different in their eyes?



Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23307 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:18 pm to
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Now why should the utility pay more to the net metering customer?


Is the utility producing energy in my neighborhood? Or are they bringing it in from 100s if miles away in many cases?

Because I don’t give a shite what their cost is to bring energy from Georgia to my house in Florida if I’m producing it to sell to them here.

Look, I agree that net probably doesn’t make sense. But then what’s the right amount?

Let’s not act like they are taking my energy and taking it across the state, it’s going straight to my neighbors house next door. That’s not ‘all kinds of wires to maintain’.

Plus the grid is up either way. This is simply less energy they pull from outside of my life grid.

For the record, I’m neither a solar panel owner nor live in Louisiana. So I’m just here to BS.
Posted by rblank6061
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
130 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:28 pm to
Exactly. Entergy did not encounter any overhead or maintenance cost when I became a part-time electricity provider to help them with a little more capacity.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6289 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:28 pm to
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Now why should the utility pay more to the net metering customer?


When the net metering customer has the same choice as the utility as to where to get its power and to whom to sell its power we can have this discussion. But while the regs dictate that the customer has no choice in the matter —- unlike the utility —- the utility can consider it the cost of its monopoly. There is little chance that the customer becomes a company with $11.4 billion in revenue from 2.9 million customers.

I would love to have switched from Entergy to SLEMCO when I had panels. I tried. I was not legally allowed to do so. So call the extremely tiny loss of profit to net metering the cost of being a monopoly.
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