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re: Louisiana COVID-19 - November 25, 2020 Update: +1234 cases; +27 deaths; +25 hospitalized

Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:47 pm to
fricking. Over. It.
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:48 pm to
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There are 846 fewer active cases today than yesterday, a decrease of 3.62%.


Hope this is the beginning of a trend
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14492 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:51 pm to
Next question that probably gets asked here all the time.

What is a "probable" case?

Someone that's sick but hasn't gotten a confirmed test, someone healthy that is probable due to contact tracing?
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:53 pm to
Probable cases from what I read here are the rapid tests ... actual cases are the PCR up the nose test.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:54 pm to
How is a rapid test administered? They don't swab up the nose?
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5067 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:55 pm to
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Yes, just like if someone tested positive in July, but dies of a gun shot wound in November, that counts as a COVID death


Wut.




Currently, all deaths in individuals with COVID positive lab results are being counted, this may include individuals with pre-existing conditions, individuals who have met the "end of isolation" criteria prior to death, or individuals ultimately determined to have another cause of death.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
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Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:55 pm to
Eye test
Posted by LSUJML
BR
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Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by MiloDanglers
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Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:55 pm to
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Yes, just like if someone tested positive in July, but dies of a gun shot wound in November, that counts as a COVID death.


All this stuff said on here regularly is so dumb.
No, this is not true. Covid deaths are counted when Covid is listed on the death certificate. It is listed on the death certificate if it is considered among the reasons for death. If a patient is hospitalized with Covid, and dies of a heart attack, or pneumonia, or even septic organ failure, if Covid is even remotely considered among the contributing factors, it will be counted. If you think the majority of Covid deaths don’t really involve Covid, you are showing how little you know.

Same with hospitalizations. If someone is hospitalized with a broken leg, and they test positive for Covid, of course they need to be moved to the Covid area for safety concerns. They will be counted among those hospitalized with Covid because of this reason. If you think this is even a sizable minority of Covid hospitalizations, you are projecting your agenda. The vast majority of Covid hospitalizations are people sick with Covid.

It may not be worthy of lockdowns and restrictions, but that doesnt mean it doesn’t make some people very sick, and is the cause of death for others.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:56 pm to
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if someone tested positive in July, but dies of a gun shot wound in November, that counts as a COVID death.


If you can prove this and somehow get it to the masses COVID would end tomorrow.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36703 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:58 pm to
Yes but it run differently. It's HERE & NOW test .. the other takes 2/3 days to return results.
Posted by MiloDanglers
on a dock on a bay
Member since Apr 2012
6544 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:58 pm to
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Currently, all deaths in individuals with COVID positive lab results are being counted, this may include individuals with pre-existing conditions, individuals who have met the "end of isolation" criteria prior to death, or individuals ultimately determined to have another cause of death.


This doesnt mean someone who does of something unrelated months later is counted as a Covid death. It means if someone dies of a heart attack several weeks into a bout with Covid, even after seemingly recovered, they are likely to put Covid on the death certificate. This is not the majority of deaths. Most people are dying from complications obviously related to Covid.
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/25/20 at 1:01 pm to
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Covid deaths are counted when Covid is listed on the death certificate. It is listed on the death certificate if it is considered among the reasons for death. If a patient is hospitalized with Covid, and dies of a heart attack, or pneumonia, or even septic organ failure, if Covid is even remotely considered among the contributing factors, it will be counted. If you think the majority of Covid deaths don’t really involve Covid, you are showing how little you know.


From LDH

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Currently, all deaths in individuals with COVID positive lab results are being counted, this may include individuals with pre-existing conditions, individuals who have met the "end of isolation" criteria prior to death, or individuals ultimately determined to have another cause of death.


The question is how far back are they going, if an 96 year old has Covid, recovers & passes a month later from natural causes based on LDH it will be a Covid death
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
22382 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 1:01 pm to
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How is a rapid test administered? They don't swab up the nose?


It’s a nose swab as well... didn’t really go very deep on my test yesterday
Posted by MiloDanglers
on a dock on a bay
Member since Apr 2012
6544 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 1:07 pm to
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The question is how far back are they going, if an 96 year old has Covid, recovers & passes a month later from natural causes based on LDH it will be a Covid death


Likely true, if they feel the natural causes were even remotely related to Covid. This happens, but do you think these scenarios are 20, or even 10, of the deaths per day?
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20685 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 1:10 pm to
Probably 5-10
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5067 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 1:13 pm to
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This doesnt mean someone who does of something unrelated months later is counted as a Covid death. It means if someone dies of a heart attack several weeks into a bout with Covid, even after seemingly recovered, they are likely to put Covid on the death certificate. This is not the majority of deaths. Most people are dying from complications obviously related to Covid.



LDH does not state that they count COVID deaths based on what is on the death certificate. They specifically state all deaths in individuals with COVID positive lab results are being counted. Where do you get your interpretation of LDH's statement?
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/25/20 at 1:17 pm to
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but do you think these scenarios are 20, or even 10, of the deaths per day?




I’m pretty sure it’s around 4500 deaths are over 70 in Louisiana
Between people that could drop at any minute from obesity & heart attacks to end stage dementia patients I think there are a lot of deaths being counted as Covid especially with LDH being transparent that a positive is counted even if it’s not the cause of death
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17973 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 1:17 pm to
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if Covid is even remotely considered among the contributing factors, it will be counted.


Correct and it does not require a positive test nor symptoms. Anyone can claim covid "might" have been a factor with zero evidence and get the death classified as a covid death.

Take the 2 kids who died in a car accident. The doctor when interviewed and asked why they were considered covid deaths, the doctor said it was possible that the driver might have had covid and the symptoms caused the accident.

Also, don't forget NYC classified over 7,500 deaths as covid because they didn't want to take the time to do autopsies or tests. It was a blanket categorization with zero evidence to base it on.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3014 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 1:17 pm to
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Sounds like the code an idiot would have on his luggage.
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