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re: Louisiana COVID-19 - August 13, 2020 Update: 135,439 cases - 4279 deaths - 1,615,980 tests

Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:25 pm to
Some recent data shows you may only need 20 percent with masks and social distancing to get to population immunity.

Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21061 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:25 pm to
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I don't like to bash on JBE like others (aside from his smacking), but he knows he's being disingenuous. This was the same guy yelling that deaths were a lagging indicator a few weeks back when cases were high but deaths were still low. With the lowering of cases right now, we should see fewer deaths in a few weeks.


Correct
Posted by SuwMwf
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:28 pm to
Add in a good chance of natural immunity due to exposure to other coronavirus and we are good. shite is ending! We are getting there.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:29 pm to
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Some mask data for whoever wanted it

First is study by folks from MIT and Harvard

“Face coverings lower the Covid-19 death rate by 5%, study claims - and the effect doubles when medical masks are given to the elderly and people who already have the virus”


A model with the "wearing masks" option ticked does not demonstrate a real-life reduction in infections.

It's an ASSUMPTION built into a model.

Models are not real life.





Your second link didn't go to the story I assume you got that quoted info from, so I can't comment on that.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:29 pm to
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Add in a good chance of natural immunity due to exposure to other coronavirus and we are good. shite is ending! We are getting there.


Hope so. I’m eyeing 9/14 as an important date.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:32 pm to
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What is reality when it comes to herd immunity?

We don’t live in a tribe in the jungle. We live in a highly complex society with all sorts of genetic differences.



Based on all of this...it's looking like it falls in the 10-20% range.

But there are lots of factors that go into, density and whatnot. Also, it may be that low only under certain conditions (i.e. a higher number needed for mass protests or crowded bars).
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
47102 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:35 pm to
Here is South Carolina link again

LINK
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:35 pm to
"We don't need to be reporting 61 deaths per day"


Last time 61 deaths were reported was April 11th.


This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 3:37 pm
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:37 pm to
What is significant about 9/14?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30780 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:40 pm to
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According to state health officials, compared to jurisdictions without mask ordinances, places that do have one have shown a more than 46% decrease in the total number of COVID-19 cases during the four weeks after the requirements were implemented.

In the same time frame, total cases in jurisdictions without mask requirements have gone up more than 30%, health officials said.


Now tell me how it affected the hospitals in each region.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19015 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:41 pm to
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What is significant about 9/14?


~3 weeks after most schools start.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:43 pm to
Gotcha. Lafayette public schools open 9/8
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19015 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:46 pm to
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Gotcha. Lafayette public schools open 9/8


Ah, 8/24 here.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21061 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:47 pm to
9/14 is my kids' first full day
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19015 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:49 pm to
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9/14 is my kids' first full day


Well I’m way early then.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:51 pm to
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Here is South Carolina link again


Tried finding the data on their website to check the numbers, but I had no success. It's basically a "they said it so we've got to believe them" thing at this point, while being touted as proof.

Likely being deceptive with numbers, context, and timing of things. Just like the guy in Kansas did this week.


Off the top of my head, see California, Hawaii, Peru, Hong Kong, Philippines, and Japan for "proof" that mask mandates don't prevent infections.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
47102 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:54 pm to
Well the timing of a “mandate” doesn’t necessarily mean that is when people did or didn’t wear masks. Some populations are going to be more compliant without a mandate and some populations aren’t going to be compliant even with a mandate.
This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 3:55 pm
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:59 pm to
Hospitalizations updated for the graph. Acadiana's hospitalizations peaked on July 22nd with 304 hospitalizations. Currently sitting at 192 on August 13th: down 112 hospitalizations since peak.


Looks like a 39 person decrease from yesterday to today overall for Louisiana and a 15 person decrease on ventilators.
This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 4:09 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79918 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 4:04 pm to
Considering the peak days of positive tests showed the days leading up to the Louisiana mask mandate were the highest. The 7 day average peaked on the day of the mask mandate which means cases were already headed downwards.

The percent positive peaked a week prior to the mask mandate.

It isn't evidence that masks work or don't work. Just that the turnaround wasn't responsible for the turnaround.
This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 4:05 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
47102 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 4:08 pm to
I hear ya. If I remember correctly he also said there was going to be a mask mandate several days before it happened.

Again, it is more of what and when people actually DO something, as opposed to the day something actually goes into effect.

And if in real life everyone stayed way away from each other then that would be all you need.
This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 4:11 pm
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