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Posted on 4/6/20 at 1:01 pm to Unknown_Poster
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led to proactive social distancing measures. Said measures led to these lower numbers. The numbers are great but we wouldn't be looking at the same low numbers had Bourbon Street, etc. remained open.
These numbers are not bad in the least. No one doubts social distancing would lower the number of infected/dead. Social distancing would lower murder rates. Nightclub and school shootings would plummet if we stopped having nightclubs and schools as well.
The whole idea is if it was worth it. Which many do not think it was. If we saved 100k lives it isn't worth it.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 1:02 pm to TigersSEC2010
ETA: Corrected the numbers[/img]
The numbers are screwy. Total in use on this chart is 934 on 4/6. Is LDH combining all use of vents (Covid and others on vents)???
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 1:06 pm to LSUFanHouston
Or were a bunch of ventilated patients moved from NO to other regions?? The numbers on vents were relatively the same, just the locations of the vents were allocated differently.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 1:11 pm to tigerskin
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(doesn’t make sense for both ventilator use and available to both go way down).
Moved them to another regions
Reg 1 went down 209, but Reg 3 went up 107 & Reg 7 went up 142
Total on 4/5 was 1,953; and total for 4/6 was 2,014
Posted on 4/6/20 at 1:48 pm to Curtis Lowe
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Is LDH combining all use of vents (Covid and others on vents)???
Yes. That chart is to show total vent use and capacity across the state, not just COVID patients.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:18 pm to TigersSEC2010
does anyone know the new cases today 4/6 for east baton roug e parish?
the ldh website isnt showing the information, where it used to show it.
the ldh website isnt showing the information, where it used to show it.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:20 pm to TheEnglishman
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:21 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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Moved them to another regions
I would think they choose to move someone not on a ventilator if they need to clear up room.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:23 pm to fightin tigers
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The whole idea is if it was worth it.
It was worth it in the sense that the virus was here. It wasn't going to go anywhere. If the government simply let it run its course without aggressive measures then it would linger and damage the economy over the long term.
IMO, the government bungled the stimulus package. Money should have been given directly to companies (with strong caveats to prevent abuse) and companies should have just kept paying their employees with the federal subsidies.
As soon as the restrictions are lifted, the economy will start rolling. This was an 'unnatural' downturn. Demand is still there, it's just that people are prevented from acting on it. Once the green light is given, demand will return. This isn't anything like a true recession.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:32 pm to Chad504boy
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there's an old saying... "you can't ventilate the dead"
I mean, you can. Results may vary, though.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 3:09 pm to schwartzy
FIFY
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Houston, we have a problem, but it looks like it's getting fixed.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 4:14 pm to Unknown_Poster
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As soon as the restrictions are lifted, the economy will start rolling. This was an 'unnatural' downturn. Demand is still there, it's just that people are prevented from acting on it. Once the green light is given, demand will return. This isn't anything like a true recession.
Disagree. This is going to ruin a good percentage of businesses. Airlines will be down which likely hurts Boeing. O&G is down, which won't be back for awhile.
Housing and real estate? Hard to say.
Starting back up after being shut down takes more money and time then closing down across most sectors. Companies need money to invest that's no longer there.
I don't see how we don't go into a considerable recession at this point. There will be a light at the end of the tunnel unlike in 2008/9, but that light will likely be one hell of a long way away.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 4:20 pm to baldona
I also wonder how quick society will resume normal day-to-day activities...
In other words, will a lot of people be hesitant to travel, get on planes, eat at crowded restaurants, go to the mall/stores, get services? ... even if everything is Technically back open, it doesn’t mean people are necessarily flooding back to businesses in pre-COVID numbers. There will be quite a large number of people that probably continue the social distancing for some time even after everything opens back up.
We may have inadvertently hamstrung our economy for a while. We’ve made everyone germaphobes now, don’t know if that’s a good thing or bad thing.
In other words, will a lot of people be hesitant to travel, get on planes, eat at crowded restaurants, go to the mall/stores, get services? ... even if everything is Technically back open, it doesn’t mean people are necessarily flooding back to businesses in pre-COVID numbers. There will be quite a large number of people that probably continue the social distancing for some time even after everything opens back up.
We may have inadvertently hamstrung our economy for a while. We’ve made everyone germaphobes now, don’t know if that’s a good thing or bad thing.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 4:33 pm to JPLSU1981
Without a doubt it will be slow. Most people have a short memory span but even if everything opened back up tomorrow, things like eating out in restaurants, movie theaters, theme parks, cruises, etc. are still going to be very slow for a couple of months.
I mean who's going to be excited to go to a concert or sporting event anytime soon?
I mean who's going to be excited to go to a concert or sporting event anytime soon?
Posted on 4/6/20 at 4:40 pm to Unknown_Poster
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It was worth it in the sense that the virus was here. It wasn't going to go anywhere. If the government simply let it run its course without aggressive measures then it would linger and damage the economy over the long term.
You don't understand the curve. Flattening the curve makes the virus linger. less people get infected but the infections spread out over time to not overwhelm health care
If you do nothing the peak is higher and probably deaths are higher in hotspots but herd immunity kicks in and the virus runs its course and less you have to worry about in a 2nd wave
If the gov does nothing the peak
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