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re: Looks like there may be more problems for Boeing regarding that Air India crash
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:00 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:00 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Watch Captain Steve break it down so even a 4th grader can understand. The video shows that the RAT deployed just after rotation…. Somebody in that cockpit shut off the fuel. There’s no way they were able to taxi and take off with those switches off. It’s not as simple as just flipping a switch, it’s a 3 part process.
Looks like murder/suicide to me.
Watch Captain Steve break it down so even a 4th grader can understand. The video shows that the RAT deployed just after rotation…. Somebody in that cockpit shut off the fuel. There’s no way they were able to taxi and take off with those switches off. It’s not as simple as just flipping a switch, it’s a 3 part process.
Looks like murder/suicide to me.
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Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:25 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
AI did this
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:40 pm to terd ferguson
Hey Captain, what do these switches do?
Click
Click
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:57 pm to TonySoprano
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Watch Captain Steve break it down so even a 4th grader can understand.
A wise man with the credentials and experience to back it up.
WSJ article link below is "gifted" to get past the paywall, if active for the content.
Air India Crash Report Confirms Fuel Was Cut Off Before Accident
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:27 pm to Cosmo
Yes. If they were all on the same circuit breaker panel, or all were under the same Power Control Unit “upstream” in the electronics path, and they lost power simultaneously then it would definitely be a VERY bad design flaw.
Betrays the common airworthiness design of redundant power paths that were identified long ago as best practices in the aircraft industry.
Betrays the common airworthiness design of redundant power paths that were identified long ago as best practices in the aircraft industry.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:31 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Why the hell would you even automate a fuel cutoff? That should be like a fricking big arse red switch encased in glass.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:39 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
The day that let the McDonnell Douglas Management team take over Boeing, is the actual date of death for Boeing
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:53 pm to TutHillTiger
No automatic shut off.
One of the pilots turned off.
Not a Boeing issue.
One of the pilots turned off.
Not a Boeing issue.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:35 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Seems as though it should be impossible for a fuel switch to flip to cut off while on ascent or at minimum at least below say, 10,000 feet
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 7/12/25 at 3:57 am to Mr Breeze
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A wise man with the credentials and experience to back it up.
LOL!
So wise that he was banging the “flaps were up” theory less than 24 hrs after the crash when it was pretty easy to see they weren’t. Professionals don’t act this way. The man’s a charlatan looking for clicks.
And fuel cutoff switches just don’t go from “on” to “off”.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:06 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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If they just cut off without human intervention.
Don’t you think all the other Boeing 787 planes would have been grounded if this were the case?
This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 6:35 am
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:10 am to DByrd2
I stand corrected. Shouldn’t have driveby posted this one.
Definitely purposeful.
Definitely purposeful.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:11 am to Meauxjeaux
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Seems as though it should be impossible for a fuel switch to flip to cut off while on ascent or at minimum at least below say, 10,000 feet
So if an engine fire occurs at 5,000 feet, they should just keep feeding it fuel while singing the engine is on fire, we don't care let the mother fricker burn?
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:22 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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No idea but both pilots indicated they didn't do it on the voice recorder.
I didn’t shite myself in the car on the way back from Florida after eating a chili cheese coney from sonic and getting stuck in traffic.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:32 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
We need robots instead of humans
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:35 am to SlidellCajun
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We need robots instead of humans
Aviation really is a perfect opportunity for automated control with human safety operators observing.
It’s nearly there already
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:31 am to Tigeralum2008
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Aviation really is a perfect opportunity for automated control with human safety operators observing. It’s nearly there already
Not sure how that would’ve stopped this assuming the pilots really did shutoff the fuel control switches.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:46 am to HeadCall
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Aviation really is a perfect opportunity for automated control with human safety operators observing. It’s nearly there already
Not sure how that would’ve stopped this assuming the pilots really did shutoff the fuel control switches.
Automation would have asked "Are you sure?" about 5x before accepting the input, giving the other pilot time to react.
If you look at where these switches are in the cockpit vs where the PIC's hands would have been at that time, this is beyond any doubt an intentional act on the part of one of them.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:54 am to TigerHornII
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Automation would have asked "Are you sure?" about 5x before accepting the input, giving the other pilot time to react.
That’s assuming he did it on accident, which is really inconceivable to me. The only time you ever touch those switches is to start and stop the motors or to shut one down in flight if there’s a major malfunction. Turning both off is even less conceivable. Unless they were shutting one down because it failed and accidentally killed fuel to the remaining good engine. But you don’t do that for engine failure on takeoff unless the thing is on fire. And even then you’d get concurrence from the other pilot before moving the switch. Normally you’d wait till you gained some altitude and go through the shutdown process methodically.
Or one of the guys just shut them both down on purpose to commit suicide.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:17 am to Meauxjeaux
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Seems as though it should be impossible for a fuel switch to flip to cut off while on ascent or at minimum at least below say, 10,000 feet
They make it possible for engine fires and engine failure, so it makes sense. I would think there’s an assumption a pilot would not turn it off for 2 heathy engines.
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