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re: Looks like Jason Ard is in a fight to remain sheriff in Livingston Parish

Posted on 10/20/23 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59991 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 12:05 pm to
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Are you this guy’s deputy? Geez


No, I’m really not. I’m just a guy railing against the social media pitchforks with some old school common sense.

I get people wanting to vote for McMasters. I understand that. I understand people not being satisfied with the LPSO. I really do.

My issue isn’t with that. It’s with the irrational hatred driven by people who’ve never dealt with real life police work and procedures using “internet facts”

There are good people on both sides
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59991 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 12:07 pm to
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tell him a murder occurred but I tell him I don’t want to file an official complaint


You do realize crazy people file complaints like this all the time right?
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2751 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 12:18 pm to

You either just won an election by just over 100 votes or you are pretty close to a person who has…

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Now we are a bed and breakfast parish getting THREE, that’s right, FRICKING THREE applications a year at job fairs because we can’t pay them with all these awesome new homes and property taxes.



I guess I see it as an issue when you blame a victim of child abuse (yes the parents and step parents are victims too) for the fact that the LPSO didn’t investigate it properly when they were notified of the issues.

But you are right, the LPSO did investigate it and uncovered a ton of evidence, AFTER it was reported to a different agency and couldn’t be ignored. I’m glad the National Center for Missing and Exploited children doesn’t have the same staffing issues and complainant obligations the LPSO seems to have, otherwise children may still be getting abused.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
42558 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 12:26 pm to
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There are good people on both sides


Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59991 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 12:32 pm to
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I guess I see it as an issue when you blame a victim of child abuse


I never said that and you are a bitch to claim that.

I never absolved LPSO of mistakes either. I was very clear on that. But mistakes are different than INTENT to harm.

I can tell you this, I come from a high level police family and there are two things I’ve learned:

1. Every policeman knows how to get a formal investigation started. If that other policeman didn’t, you need to ask why and then ask how that may have affected the way LPSO initially looked into Perkins. Had he done what LSP done, as you said, this wouldn’t be a discussion.

2. Police are accused of stuff every day by all kinds of people with vendettas for various and obvious reasons due to the nature of their jobs. Some legitimate, many not. I guess we should just suspend police and investigate them when anyone comes in the door with a story. Imagine if the whole world worked that way.

Again, for the slow readers in here: LPSO made some mistakes and I can understand why people feel like they do. Makes sense to me.

But to assume it’s some kinda conspiracy is dumbassery.
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 12:34 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119327 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 12:36 pm to
You can admit you have some kind of tie to Ard or to the LPSO. You’re coming across as emotional now.
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 12:36 pm
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2751 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 12:40 pm to
Fair enough… if you aren’t Jason Ard, you didn’t blame the victims of child abuse for not pursuing the matter.

If you are Jason Ard, then you absolutely did blame the victims of child abuse and you did it publicly and you said they should be ashamed of themselves for not doing anything further.

Furthermore if you did happen to be Jason Ard, you had a LEGAL OBLIGATION and broke the law by failing to write a report on the matter. It just so happens that there is a state law requiring it.

It’s in Title 46 of the revised statutes if you care to look it up.

§ 2141. Reporting

Whenever a law enforcement officer investigates an allegation of domestic abuse, whether or not an arrest is made, the officer shall make a written report of the alleged incident, including a statement of the complainant, and the disposition of the case.
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 12:58 pm to
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Sarge


Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59991 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 1:04 pm to
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You can admit you have some kind of tie to Ard or to the LPSO. You’re coming across as emotional now.


You can say that all you want. I’m being pretty rational right now

If saying

1. There are good people on both sides
2. I understand why people would want to vote for McMasters
3. LPSO has made mistakes
4. LSPO didn’t intentionally protect criminals to harm children

Is emotional, I’d like to see your idea of rational
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59991 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 1:07 pm to
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§ 2141. Reporting

Whenever a law enforcement officer investigates an allegation of domestic abuse, whether or not an arrest is made, the officer shall make a written report of the alleged incident, including a statement of the complainant, and the disposition of the case.


In relation to police officers


§2531 provides police officer rights against complaints

Section 7 states that formal written complaints must be investigated

A cop would know that
Posted by phil good
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1685 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 1:20 pm to
Why should a complainant have to write soemthing down? It's not his job even if he is an officer. When he went to Tard, Tard should have written a report or had someone take the complaint. Never have I heard of a complainant writing a report or a request for an investigation. That's like showing up to a crash scene and having those involved write their own report.

I'd be willing to bet you are employed by TARD. Are you Paul Brignac ?
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 1:23 pm
Posted by phil good
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1685 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 1:23 pm to
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. LSPO didn’t intentionally protect criminals to harm children


How about all the sex abuse complaints that went ignored for years ? The Mack case for one ?
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2751 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 1:27 pm to
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In relation to police officers §2531 provides police officer rights against complaints Section 7 states that formal written complaints must be investigated A cop would know that


Exactly. This would make complete sense why Ard never wrote anything down and broke the law by failing to make a report. He knew if he made a report, section 7 would kick in and it would have to be formally investigated.

§2531 doesn’t absolve law enforcement from having cases opened against them. It just details what they are entitled to when they do come under investigation.

But… maybe I’m completely wrong and none of this ever happened.
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 1:29 pm
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12545 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 1:44 pm to
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First election. Spent less than 20k. Campaigned for 4 months. Met all my people face to face. Won hearts and minds. Opposition spent over half a mil. Got over 17k votes. And I lost by 117 votes.


Man, with a little Tiger droppings money backing you, you'd have been moving into the Sherriff's desk this week.

I voted for you btw. Thanks for your service and good luck to you.
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14117 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:17 pm to
Thank you! It was fun. Made a ton of new friends, met some awesome people and hope our run motivated others to run for office in the Parish.
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
4638 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:38 pm to
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Just to be abundantly clear, if I go to Jason Ard and tell him a murder occurred


He didn't just say "a murder occurred", he told Ard that one of his deputies was in bed with a minor. Ard absolutely had a duty to act on that statement alone, period, end of story. If he had said "I heard a guy who I won't mention was banging a minor" that's totally different.

Put your efforts behind defending someone worth a shite.
Posted by Konkey Dong
Member since Aug 2013
2349 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:52 pm to
I know Paul personally and he’s a good dude. Not sure why you’re trying to bring him into this thread
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119887 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 3:06 pm to
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In almost every instance, it was the LPSO who arrested and fired their own.


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That sounds more like accountability than, let’s say, what’s happened at BRPD and NOPD. Your list actually in a way proves the LPSO is doing its job.


I used to listen to the podcast Real Life. Real Crime. I am sure there are people on this board who still does. There is an episode about the Perkins dude who got arrested. In that episode it is stated that it was common knowledge by other officers that ole boy would stop female drivers and "convince" them to have sex with him in exchange of him not giving them a ticket, etc.

There were a few other things mentioned in older episodes that gave me the impression that the LPSO was/is nothing but one big ole good ole boy department.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48992 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 3:18 pm to
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Ol Theriot isn’t happy they will be at the box.


He's afraid they'll make his pecker stiff and everyone will find out the truth.
Posted by rented mule
Member since Sep 2005
2714 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 3:56 pm to
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gave me the impression that the LPSO was/is nothing but one big ole good ole boy department


Beacause that's exactly what it is. That is the case for the entire parish government system, though.
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