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re: looking at getting a pool at the house

Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
8045 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:35 pm to
Go above ground, salt water, and cartridge filter if possible. For a decent above ground pool, don't spend less than $3500 preferably around $7500, and don't skimp on installation by trying to do it yourself.

Source: 10 years of experience building pools.

I'll type a longer explanation when I'm not driving.

Edit: Don't buy an above ground from Family Leisure. Super shitty pools.
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 6:39 pm
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:38 pm to
Salt fricks up everything metal that isn't painted
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28211 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:40 pm to
My dad said you are not a man until you have had the following at some point in your life:

1. Children

2. A Boat

3. An ex wife

4. A swimming pool
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:47 pm to
I had one, even put a heater on it at one point. I would not do it again, though I would and am considering the "The Endless Wave" type of pool. Much smaller and allows for a good workout.

Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2040 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:49 pm to
We have a pool and love it. If you are concerned with upfront cost consider getting pool with a liner. I wouldn't sacrifice size for nicer finish. Also assuming you live in the south ensure your pool is deeper than 6 feet. This will help keep water temperature down during the heat of the summer.

A salt water generator is much easier to maintain than regular chlorine tablets or bleach. An added bonus to salt water generator is that it destroys the chloramines which is what burns your eyes. With small kids you will have plenty of amines in your pool.

Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

A pool is like a boat.
Not Even, boat much better
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
8045 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 7:20 pm to
Ok, here is the deal with pools. Prime age for kids is 6 to 15. At 16 they start driving, hanging out with friends...etc. Unless your house is the house they all go to, the pool will cease being used on a consistent basis.

When it stops being used, it's just a money pit. Pools actually slightly lower home values right now, and getting rid on an in ground is EXPENSIVE. Just to fill one in with top soil runs around 10k when having a landscape company come in. To break it up and pull it out properly is 5k to 10k more. It's insane.

Getting rid of an above ground is super simple, pay professionals $100 and it's gone. Then throw out some grass seed, and your yard is back. Or sell it on Craigslist for a few $100 bucks and someone else takes it down and you make money on the back end.

The initial investment is FAR cheaper. For a decent 24' foot pool, you'll spend around 4k on the pool, and installations averages around $850 for an above ground.

If you want deeper than 52 inches, get a Doughboy, they are an above ground with a bit of a deep end, but still no where as much as an inground to fill in because only a small section is dug down.

Overall, you'll save yourself in the neighborhood of 50k, and have a lot less to deal with.

Liner changes are also a lot cheaper than fixing the wall on an inground.
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 7:22 pm
Posted by SJS101
Member since Oct 2007
2857 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 8:04 pm to
IF I had it to over again I'd get a 20 x 40 foot pool that's 5 feet deep the whole length of the pool. No diving, no deep end anymore. It would be more of an activity pool where you can do volleyball, basketball and still swim laps and float around. A decent slide for the kids as well. Deep end is barely used in my current set up and most of the kids and adults congregate in the shallow end. Easier to brush, clean, and vacuum and maintain too.
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 8:06 pm
Posted by Tigerrganz
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
216 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 8:19 pm to
I just purchased a 12' x 28' fiberglass pool for under $35,000. 3.5' on the shallow end and 5' on the deep end. Electricity increase is almost invisible. Salt water setup was included as was a robotic pool cleaner. So far, it has taken care of itself.
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
Location: Classified
Member since Nov 2011
38196 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 8:30 pm to
quote:


- I guess first question is if you have one ,do you recommend?


Had one in Florida, if you want one get one.

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- How is the maintenance? ive heard water and electric bills can get crazy


Pool places will test your water and tell you exactly what to put in it and how much. It really did not have a bearing on electric bill. If you have an electric heater and run it, electric bill can get crazy.

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- whats the ballpark price for a decent pool, nothing crazy?- 40-50k? Looking for a lagoon style, hot tub not a must


I think for a built in in this area, you are looking at least at 50K.

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- im assuming salt water is the trendy thing now?


If you are building one, go with salt.

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- do most people take a separate loan out or just add it to the mortgage?


I have no idea, bought house that already had pool.
Posted by Makinbacon
Member since Jul 2015
2791 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 8:34 pm to
Smaller the better... Easier to keep clean
Lender prob not int in financing with house (new construction)
Salt fad has come and gone.
Chlorine is fine.
I run mine 365 days yr.... Never noticed energy bill increase from any other home.
My kids are 4 and 7 and can swim like fish. It's awesome.
I love my pool.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21531 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 8:38 pm to
A family member got a pool when the kids were at a good age. But when they tried to sell it later, a pool did, as VaBamaMan said,devalue their home & made it very hard to sell. Too, their home owners insurance went up a lot, as the liability for a pool owner is high.
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19295 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 8:41 pm to
I used to clean pools.

Unless you have money to burn, don't do a pool.

They are money holes. They require dedicated, routine service, or they go bad quick. People get tired of them and stop using them like treadmills or exercise bikes.

Salt is crap. Although it requires less day-to-day maintenance, it is overall destructive, unstable, and you will eventually have to dump chlorine anyway to save it from its inadequacies, which defeats the whole purpose of a non-chlorine pool.

But, like I said, if you have money to throw away, don't mind paying people to upkeep it and want it for aesthetic or landscape purposes and can afford it, then go for it.
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
8771 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 8:54 pm to
The best decision we ever made was convincing my inlaws to put in a pool 2 years ago. The best part is my kids and nieces go swimming over there, MIL watches them, they have all the expense and upkeep, and we use it like it's ours for party's whatever. That said we are very close to her parents, and they live less than 5 mins away.
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19295 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

The best decision we ever made was convincing my inlaws to put in a pool
So the inlaws foot the bill and responsibilities, and you claim it was a "we" decision?

You've got some great inlaws.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
61572 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:26 pm to
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Ok, here is the deal with pools.

No, here's the deal with pools. If the OP is actually in Dallas, the HOA of his neighborhood isn't going to let him put in some cheap arse above ground pool.

If you decide to get a pool, get one that is aesthetically pleasing and is a water feature when not in use. Something that is attractive and not a square piece of fiberglass in the ground.

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When it stops being used, it's just a money pit.

So is your yard. How much time/money do you spend to cut and maintain it?

quote:

Pools actually slightly lower home values right now,

Yeah, if you're putting in above ground pools. If you're in a decent middle-class or higher end neighborhood this is not the case. Or at least not in Dallas. It really doesn't have any affect.

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Liner changes are also a lot cheaper than fixing the wall on an inground.

Actually it isn't b/c the builder should be giving you a lifetime warranty on the gunite shell and a limited on plaster. You should know this if you built pools for 10 years unless you worked for a shoddy company.



This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 9:28 pm
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
8771 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

You've got some great inlaws.


They will do anything for thier grandkids lol.
Posted by Python
Member since May 2008
6595 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:32 pm to
There's no such thing as a non chlorine pool. Salt water pools use salt to produce chlorine. I believe you used to clean pools but that's the extent of your pool knowledge. To the OP, get a pool. I put one in about 5 years ago. Great decision. Upkeep is minimal. I don't notice anything different on my electric bill. Cost was about $45K including landscaping, drainage improvements, extra concrete, etc. We use in constantly.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
61572 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:32 pm to
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Salt is crap. Although it requires less day-to-day maintenance, it is overall destructive, unstable, and you will eventually have to dump chlorine anyway to save it from its inadequacies, which defeats the whole purpose of a non-chlorine pool.

This guy knows his stuff.

Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19295 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

There's no such thing as a non chlorine pool. Salt water pools use salt to produce chlorine. I believe you used to clean pools but that's the extent of your pool knowledge. To the OP, get a pool. I put one in about 5 years ago. Great decision. Upkeep is minimal. I don't notice anything different on my electric bill. Cost was about $45K including landscaping, drainage improvements, extra concrete, etc. We use in constantly.


OP, don't listen to this guy. In 5 more years, he'll be here bitching about his pool.
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