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re: looking at getting a pool at the house
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:35 pm to dallastiger55
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:35 pm to dallastiger55
Go above ground, salt water, and cartridge filter if possible. For a decent above ground pool, don't spend less than $3500 preferably around $7500, and don't skimp on installation by trying to do it yourself.
Source: 10 years of experience building pools.
I'll type a longer explanation when I'm not driving.
Edit: Don't buy an above ground from Family Leisure. Super shitty pools.
Source: 10 years of experience building pools.
I'll type a longer explanation when I'm not driving.
Edit: Don't buy an above ground from Family Leisure. Super shitty pools.
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:38 pm to hombreman9
Salt fricks up everything metal that isn't painted
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:40 pm to dallastiger55
My dad said you are not a man until you have had the following at some point in your life:
1. Children
2. A Boat
3. An ex wife
4. A swimming pool
1. Children
2. A Boat
3. An ex wife
4. A swimming pool
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:47 pm to dallastiger55
I had one, even put a heater on it at one point. I would not do it again, though I would and am considering the "The Endless Wave" type of pool. Much smaller and allows for a good workout.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:49 pm to dallastiger55
We have a pool and love it. If you are concerned with upfront cost consider getting pool with a liner. I wouldn't sacrifice size for nicer finish. Also assuming you live in the south ensure your pool is deeper than 6 feet. This will help keep water temperature down during the heat of the summer.
A salt water generator is much easier to maintain than regular chlorine tablets or bleach. An added bonus to salt water generator is that it destroys the chloramines which is what burns your eyes. With small kids you will have plenty of amines in your pool.
A salt water generator is much easier to maintain than regular chlorine tablets or bleach. An added bonus to salt water generator is that it destroys the chloramines which is what burns your eyes. With small kids you will have plenty of amines in your pool.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:49 pm to TechDawg2007
quote:Not Even, boat much better
A pool is like a boat.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 7:20 pm to dallastiger55
Ok, here is the deal with pools. Prime age for kids is 6 to 15. At 16 they start driving, hanging out with friends...etc. Unless your house is the house they all go to, the pool will cease being used on a consistent basis.
When it stops being used, it's just a money pit. Pools actually slightly lower home values right now, and getting rid on an in ground is EXPENSIVE. Just to fill one in with top soil runs around 10k when having a landscape company come in. To break it up and pull it out properly is 5k to 10k more. It's insane.
Getting rid of an above ground is super simple, pay professionals $100 and it's gone. Then throw out some grass seed, and your yard is back. Or sell it on Craigslist for a few $100 bucks and someone else takes it down and you make money on the back end.
The initial investment is FAR cheaper. For a decent 24' foot pool, you'll spend around 4k on the pool, and installations averages around $850 for an above ground.
If you want deeper than 52 inches, get a Doughboy, they are an above ground with a bit of a deep end, but still no where as much as an inground to fill in because only a small section is dug down.
Overall, you'll save yourself in the neighborhood of 50k, and have a lot less to deal with.
Liner changes are also a lot cheaper than fixing the wall on an inground.
When it stops being used, it's just a money pit. Pools actually slightly lower home values right now, and getting rid on an in ground is EXPENSIVE. Just to fill one in with top soil runs around 10k when having a landscape company come in. To break it up and pull it out properly is 5k to 10k more. It's insane.
Getting rid of an above ground is super simple, pay professionals $100 and it's gone. Then throw out some grass seed, and your yard is back. Or sell it on Craigslist for a few $100 bucks and someone else takes it down and you make money on the back end.
The initial investment is FAR cheaper. For a decent 24' foot pool, you'll spend around 4k on the pool, and installations averages around $850 for an above ground.
If you want deeper than 52 inches, get a Doughboy, they are an above ground with a bit of a deep end, but still no where as much as an inground to fill in because only a small section is dug down.
Overall, you'll save yourself in the neighborhood of 50k, and have a lot less to deal with.
Liner changes are also a lot cheaper than fixing the wall on an inground.
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 5/28/16 at 8:04 pm to dallastiger55
IF I had it to over again I'd get a 20 x 40 foot pool that's 5 feet deep the whole length of the pool. No diving, no deep end anymore. It would be more of an activity pool where you can do volleyball, basketball and still swim laps and float around. A decent slide for the kids as well. Deep end is barely used in my current set up and most of the kids and adults congregate in the shallow end. Easier to brush, clean, and vacuum and maintain too.
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 5/28/16 at 8:19 pm to dallastiger55
I just purchased a 12' x 28' fiberglass pool for under $35,000. 3.5' on the shallow end and 5' on the deep end. Electricity increase is almost invisible. Salt water setup was included as was a robotic pool cleaner. So far, it has taken care of itself.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 8:30 pm to dallastiger55
quote:
- I guess first question is if you have one ,do you recommend?
Had one in Florida, if you want one get one.
quote:
- How is the maintenance? ive heard water and electric bills can get crazy
Pool places will test your water and tell you exactly what to put in it and how much. It really did not have a bearing on electric bill. If you have an electric heater and run it, electric bill can get crazy.
quote:
- whats the ballpark price for a decent pool, nothing crazy?- 40-50k? Looking for a lagoon style, hot tub not a must
I think for a built in in this area, you are looking at least at 50K.
quote:
- im assuming salt water is the trendy thing now?
If you are building one, go with salt.
quote:
- do most people take a separate loan out or just add it to the mortgage?
I have no idea, bought house that already had pool.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 8:34 pm to dallastiger55
Smaller the better... Easier to keep clean
Lender prob not int in financing with house (new construction)
Salt fad has come and gone.
Chlorine is fine.
I run mine 365 days yr.... Never noticed energy bill increase from any other home.
My kids are 4 and 7 and can swim like fish. It's awesome.
I love my pool.
Lender prob not int in financing with house (new construction)
Salt fad has come and gone.
Chlorine is fine.
I run mine 365 days yr.... Never noticed energy bill increase from any other home.
My kids are 4 and 7 and can swim like fish. It's awesome.
I love my pool.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 8:38 pm to VaBamaMan
A family member got a pool when the kids were at a good age. But when they tried to sell it later, a pool did, as VaBamaMan said,devalue their home & made it very hard to sell. Too, their home owners insurance went up a lot, as the liability for a pool owner is high.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 8:41 pm to dallastiger55
I used to clean pools.
Unless you have money to burn, don't do a pool.
They are money holes. They require dedicated, routine service, or they go bad quick. People get tired of them and stop using them like treadmills or exercise bikes.
Salt is crap. Although it requires less day-to-day maintenance, it is overall destructive, unstable, and you will eventually have to dump chlorine anyway to save it from its inadequacies, which defeats the whole purpose of a non-chlorine pool.
But, like I said, if you have money to throw away, don't mind paying people to upkeep it and want it for aesthetic or landscape purposes and can afford it, then go for it.
Unless you have money to burn, don't do a pool.
They are money holes. They require dedicated, routine service, or they go bad quick. People get tired of them and stop using them like treadmills or exercise bikes.
Salt is crap. Although it requires less day-to-day maintenance, it is overall destructive, unstable, and you will eventually have to dump chlorine anyway to save it from its inadequacies, which defeats the whole purpose of a non-chlorine pool.
But, like I said, if you have money to throw away, don't mind paying people to upkeep it and want it for aesthetic or landscape purposes and can afford it, then go for it.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 8:54 pm to LSUgusto
The best decision we ever made was convincing my inlaws to put in a pool 2 years ago. The best part is my kids and nieces go swimming over there, MIL watches them, they have all the expense and upkeep, and we use it like it's ours for party's whatever. That said we are very close to her parents, and they live less than 5 mins away.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:24 pm to gsvar2004
quote:So the inlaws foot the bill and responsibilities, and you claim it was a "we" decision?
The best decision we ever made was convincing my inlaws to put in a pool
You've got some great inlaws.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:26 pm to VaBamaMan
quote:
Ok, here is the deal with pools.
No, here's the deal with pools. If the OP is actually in Dallas, the HOA of his neighborhood isn't going to let him put in some cheap arse above ground pool.
If you decide to get a pool, get one that is aesthetically pleasing and is a water feature when not in use. Something that is attractive and not a square piece of fiberglass in the ground.
quote:
When it stops being used, it's just a money pit.
So is your yard. How much time/money do you spend to cut and maintain it?
quote:
Pools actually slightly lower home values right now,
Yeah, if you're putting in above ground pools. If you're in a decent middle-class or higher end neighborhood this is not the case. Or at least not in Dallas. It really doesn't have any affect.
quote:
Liner changes are also a lot cheaper than fixing the wall on an inground.
Actually it isn't b/c the builder should be giving you a lifetime warranty on the gunite shell and a limited on plaster. You should know this if you built pools for 10 years unless you worked for a shoddy company.
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:29 pm to LSUgusto
quote:
You've got some great inlaws.
They will do anything for thier grandkids lol.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:32 pm to LSUgusto
There's no such thing as a non chlorine pool. Salt water pools use salt to produce chlorine. I believe you used to clean pools but that's the extent of your pool knowledge. To the OP, get a pool. I put one in about 5 years ago. Great decision. Upkeep is minimal. I don't notice anything different on my electric bill. Cost was about $45K including landscaping, drainage improvements, extra concrete, etc. We use in constantly.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:32 pm to LSUgusto
quote:
Salt is crap. Although it requires less day-to-day maintenance, it is overall destructive, unstable, and you will eventually have to dump chlorine anyway to save it from its inadequacies, which defeats the whole purpose of a non-chlorine pool.
This guy knows his stuff.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:44 pm to Python
quote:
There's no such thing as a non chlorine pool. Salt water pools use salt to produce chlorine. I believe you used to clean pools but that's the extent of your pool knowledge. To the OP, get a pool. I put one in about 5 years ago. Great decision. Upkeep is minimal. I don't notice anything different on my electric bill. Cost was about $45K including landscaping, drainage improvements, extra concrete, etc. We use in constantly.
OP, don't listen to this guy. In 5 more years, he'll be here bitching about his pool.
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