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re: Livingston Parish 1% tax for teacher raises fails to pass

Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:35 am to
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
2037 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:35 am to
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I'd like to see this data


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So yeah, year 25 for a 9-month teacher, your basic job is $55k in LP, in AP year 11 for same teacher is $55k. So as a teacher, I would much rather work in AP than LP, considering money.
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 8:36 am
Posted by ModernCajun
Member since Jun 2019
14 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:33 pm to
At least use the same school year salary schedules

Ascension Parish Public School Salary 2022-2023

Livingston Parish Public School Salary 2022-2023

Teacher w/Bachelor's Degree
Year 1
AP - $48,783
LP - $47,117

Year 10
AP - $54,448
LP - $50,661

Year 20
AP - $60,058
LP - $56,093

Bottom line, they start out paying about the same, but Ascension Parish has more industry paying property tax mills into the school system than Livingston Parish does and Ascension isn't trying to add an additional tax on purchases to fund it.
Posted by rented mule
Member since Sep 2005
2733 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:27 pm to
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Tell me you have zero clue about what your saying without actually saying it.

The Tahoe is on the state contract, which all law enforcement agencies in the state are able to purchase from. The cost of the Tahoe on the state contract with Chevrolet is $36,000, and around $2500 for lights and graphics.


LOL
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9611 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 6:20 pm to
For anyone:

Did the Livingston Parish school board state why they created the educational facilities improvement district (EFID) and appointed board members which is what actually submitted this 1% sales tax to voters?

This is the only the 3rd educational facilities improvement district created in the state and originally at least set up for state of emergency facility issues. Creating this district is not for one issue like increasing pay.

The school board can ask for voters to approve sales tax increases (up to a set limit) or increases in property taxes without creating this educational facilities improvement district. This created EFID run by its appointed board is now a political subdivision of the state and again supposed to be for school districts with emergency type issues with their facilities which is why it can seek federal, other public, and even private assistance like grants or loans; receive donations; hire; make & execute contracts; pledge or assign its monies and revenue from bonds or derived from contracts or other rights; “accept the mortgage, pledge, hypothecation, assignment, grant, or donation of any properties of the school board”; and if tax had passed would have been able to issue bonds with tax used as security along with other powers granted by the state. Not sure if it can still issue bonds, but it doesn’t have 20 years of guaranteed sale tax collection to use.

As far as taxes it is limited to asking for a 1% sales increase, which is exempt from other state limits on parish and parish districts increases to sales tax, and it cannot ask voters for an increase property taxes. As far as collecting local tax payer funding goes this 1% Sales Tax is an EFID’s only option making it a weird solution for a parish school board saying in September that the new district would review local funding options. EFIDs have only one option available under law for local taxes, but a lot of power outside asking for this 1% Sales tax.

The sales tax isn’t only way it can get funds to spend to help improve facilities, but it is only tax it can ask voters to approve which would have guaranteed that revenue for 20 years and more easily spurred other means of funding/revenue/debt with that guarantee.

It’s creation is big deal and not to be taken lightly just because tax didn’t pass. Not passing the tax might limit it somewhat on creating debt through bonds, but it has other powers and abilities granted by the state and still exists. It isn’t some committee of locals just coming up with ideas to pass to the board. This district is a political subdivision of the state of Louisiana with full corporate powers.

This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 1:55 pm
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 8:30 am to
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3 months for the summer off. Maybe 2 1/2 months. 2 weeks for Christmas off 1 week for Mardi Gras off 1 week for thanksgiving off That’s just off the top of my head and I’m sure there’s more. So at maximum they work 8 months.

No, you were right the first time. It’s 6 months. Their contract says 180 days.
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 8:33 am to
So I guess a normal person works 8.5 months since there are only 260 working days in a year?

Not including holidays of course
Posted by Jenious
Member since Apr 2020
901 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 8:44 am to
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180 days.


11 weeks off for summer
2 weeks for Christmas
1 week for Thanksgiving
1 week for Easter
1 week for Mardi Gras

52 weeks in a year - 16 weeks off= 36 weeks x 5 days a week= 180 days


Posted by Roy Curado
Member since Jul 2021
1446 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:07 am to
180 days = the total amount of instruction work. Some teachers are required to go 190+ days. There are approximately 160 work hours in each month. so take 190 days x it by 8 hours (most teachers work more than 8 hours.) that equals to 1,520 hours. Divide 1,520 hours by 160 hours (the amount of hours in each month) and you get 9.5 months.

Posted by Roy Curado
Member since Jul 2021
1446 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:08 am to
See my reply above this post.
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
2037 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:29 am to
Oh thank you so much. Point was made dingus.
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
2037 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:33 am to
Also I wish every teacher would take the approach and do absolutely nothing work wise unless it was between 7-3 or whatever their contract states. See how all these parents and everyone would like it. Yeah I know it’s late but I was emailing about my kid so and so and this project. AutoReply-Sorry I Only work school days 7-3. Lol
Posted by Jenious
Member since Apr 2020
901 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:42 am to
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Sorry I Only work school days 7-3


In the 80's-90's, parents didn't have the teachers home phone number, no email back then. If you wanted to get a hold of a teacher, you contacted the school.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:47 am to
3 weeks for Christmas in LP. I have 2 who have graduated there and a senior currently. It’s been 3 weeks for many years now,
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 11:41 am
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:48 am to
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hard to give more taxes when the Parish/Cities are allowing themselves to be raped with residential development. Every major corridor is being crammed with shitty DSLD homes or townhomes.


LP won't need to keep on developing soon when the schools are filled with intro-level teachers just waiting to get a better paying job elsewhere or the low performing teachers just getting a check and maximizing their sick days. But then the trailer dwelling slow learners will be complaining because their kids can't read and every elementary class has 40+ students in it.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:51 am to
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Austin Arnold It is actually already 10.95%. Livingston Parish Has No County-Level Sales Tax While many counties do levy a countywide sales tax, Livingston Parish does not. The Louisiana sales tax of 4.45% applies countywide. Some cities and local governments in Livingston Parish collect additional local sales taxes, which can be as high as 6.5%. Here's how Livingston Parish's maximum sales tax rate of 10.95% compares to other counties around the United States: * Higher maximum sales tax than 83% of Louisiana counties * Higher maximum sales tax than 97% of counties nationwide Last updated March 2023

I love how teachers act like they’re the only salaried profession who works when they’re not at the office.

I have 30yrs in advertising and always worked evngs and weekends. I answered the phone when a client or anyone from work called or texted me. My cousin is an adjuster and always has files on the sofa at the night that she works on. Teachers are just one segment of many adults who work at different hours and use their own money to advance their careers,
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:57 am to
Unlike in the real world, they also draw a full pension for life and don’t have to worry that their retirement has $10B in unfunded liabilities.

Unlike govt employees, other citizens lose money when their 401k is down 40% but teachers don’t have their pension slashed 40%.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:07 am to
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frick that, you realize that the sales tax is likely some of the highest in the country already, and it's a sad day it didn't go up another percent?... fricking idiot


Exactly. At 10.95%, LP already has a higher maximum sales tax than 97% of the country.

Livingston Parish Has No Levy on the Parish-Level Sales Tax

While many counties do levy a countywide sales tax, Livingston Parish does not. The Louisiana sales tax of 4.45% applies countywide. Some cities and local governments in Livingston Parish collect additional local sales taxes, which can be as high as 6.5%.

Here's how Livingston Parish's maximum sales tax rate of 10.95% compares to other counties around the United States:

* Higher maximum sales tax than 83% of Louisiana counties
* Higher maximum sales tax than 97% of counties nationwide

Last updated March 2023
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 10:08 am
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 6:20 pm to
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Thank you. The husband of my wife’s principal at her former school sat on the school board so a lot of issues at her school were being covered up. Said principal got away with a lot of things and ended up running off over 20 teachers at the end of the year including my wife. I know very school is different but alot of bridges were burned because of that school.

Bonnie is well known for being an abusive bitch. She was one in the media when she was asst principal at LOE. My son and daughter were there at the time. She beat a kid so bad he was covered in purple and blue bruises. Instead of firing her, her husband Jeff got her promoted to Principal at Walker Elem.
Posted by tossedoff
LP
Member since May 2009
1673 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 6:31 pm to
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Bonnie is well known for being an abusive bitch. She was one in the media when she was asst principal at LOE. My son and daughter were there at the time. She beat a kid so bad he was covered in purple and blue bruises. Instead of firing her, her husband Jeff got her promoted to Principal at Walker Elem.



Heard horror stories about her. I heard she is now at the school board.
Posted by The_Icon44
Member since Mar 2016
55 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 8:35 pm to
School board meeting going to be interesting Thursday. Addendum from the Super. Sorry if it won’t load.It talks about teachers doing the bare min for the remainder of the year.
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 8:41 pm
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