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re: Let's not forget that D-Day was simply the beginning...
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:11 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:11 am to RollTide1987
The exact response I expected. 
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:13 am to RollTide1987
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You are clearly an idiot who ignored everything in my OP and only downvoted because of the thread title. This is why the rest of the world looks down upon our education system, because of people like you who can't bother to read and educate yourself. You see the headline or the thread title and immediately make up your mind before you even read the body of text. Often times you don't read the body and merely shake your head and form your opinion on something just by reading the headlin
To be fair, you really have no room to be mad since you were the one to put a shitty thread title.
If you would have approached this thread in a different way, then the replies would have probably been more of what you were hoping for.
I don’t think anything you said in the body of your post was wrong, inflammatory, or incorrect, but your title made it seem like you were just trying to be edgy and contrarian, and that’s why you got the responses you are getting. Don’t act like it’s everyone else’s fault but your own
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:29 am to Mr. Hangover
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To be fair, you really have no room to be mad since you were the one to put a shitty thread title.
A shitty thread title? Sure. But perhaps a microcosm of the public discourse today. My original thread title was provocative and got tons of responses from people who didn't even bother reading my argument. Had I led with the edited thread title...do you really think this topic would have stretched out to four pages? No. I doubt it would have gotten to two pages. People would have found the subject line boring and wouldn't have bothered opening the thread to engage in debate.
But with the title "D-Day is somewhat overrated...?" Yeah...that is bound to get people's blood boiling. Problem is...instead of bothering to read the argument, they simply downvote and call me a retard, this despite the fact my points are all legitimate and are backed up by facts.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:30 am to CapstoneGrad06
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The exact response I expected.
Tell me...how many college-aged kids in the United State can even explain to you why we even celebrate July 4 to begin with?
How many college-aged kids can tell you what D-Day was?
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:36 am to RollTide1987
Umm.. probably most of them??!?
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:36 am to RollTide1987
My son is a senior in high school who was at Normandy today. I’ve never seen him more happy.
More kids know and appreciate this stuff than you think.
More kids know and appreciate this stuff than you think.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:38 am to RollTide1987
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A shitty thread title?
At least you admit it. Now we are getting somewheres
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But perhaps a microcosm of the public discourse today
Exactly. Your thread title is a great example of the ‘public discourse of today’
Don’t bait the masses, then act surprised or shocked and then chastise everyone when they take the bait. Pretty dumb/hypocritical on your part
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:39 am to RollTide1987
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People like you shouldn't be allowed to vote. You breed ignorance and that ignorance spreads like a plague across the land. That ignorance shows up at the ballot box and then pollutes our political system with retardation and dumb assery.
I struck a nerve. Brother, I’m sure irl my education trumps yours. The evidence is also in your shite tread title.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:40 am to RollTide1987
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Tell me...how many college-aged kids in the United State can even explain to you why we even celebrate July 4 to begin with?
How many college-aged kids can tell you what D-Day was?
That’s a completely different issue. And one that’s long needed to be addressed.
But deciding on the 75th anniversary of D-Day to explain away to people that the largest seaborne invasion in history was small beans to the larger breakout in Normandy wasn’t the best of ideas. And that’s your issue.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:47 am to prostyleoffensetime
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Didn’t read all that bullshite you posted. Only opened the thread, before you edited the title, so I could be downvote #119.
you're proud that you have an opinion on something you didn't even bother to read?
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:47 am to Mr. Hangover
I believe you have won this battle 
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:48 am to CapstoneGrad06
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But deciding on the 75th anniversary of D-Day to explain away to people that the largest seaborne invasion in history was small beans to the larger breakout in Normandy wasn’t the best of ideas.
That was never my argument.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:51 am to Mr. Hangover
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At least you admit it. Now we are getting somewheres
I think me changing the thread title within 10 minutes of my OP clearly shows that I knew I had made a mistake.
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Don’t bait the masses, then act surprised or shocked and then chastise everyone when they take the bait. Pretty dumb/hypocritical on your part
If I had been willingly baiting the masses, I wouldn't have bothered typing up my argument in the OP. And I didn't chastise everyone, just the ones who came in here acting retarded.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:55 am to Deactived
I’m here for the people Mr. Jones!
My first post in this thread set the tone, then the rest of the OT came to clean up the mess. Nice work!!
USA! USA! USA!
My first post in this thread set the tone, then the rest of the OT came to clean up the mess. Nice work!!
USA! USA! USA!
This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 10:57 am
Posted on 6/6/19 at 11:02 am to RollTide1987
Alabama education at it's finest. Go be a cuck from wherever your family came from.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 11:03 am to RollTide1987
D-day was one of single biggest days of the the 20th century.
The allies were planning an amphibious landing for over 2 years. The Germans knew we were going to launch and amphibious landing, they just didn't know where or when exactly. They had two years to build up their defenses on the Atlantic Wall.
We basically had one chance to land in Europe. If the Germans would have repelled the invasion and pushed the allies back into the Channel it would have probably taken another two years to launch another invasion. Who knows during that time what would have happened. American support for the invasion would have wained, Hitler would have stayed in power and possibly developed an atomic weapon, and the Allies may have agreed on a peace settlement that allowed Hitler and the Axis to remain in power. Who knows what the world would have become after that.
So to say this was just a day is a drastic understatement. If the allies would have failed everything else falls apart.
The allies were planning an amphibious landing for over 2 years. The Germans knew we were going to launch and amphibious landing, they just didn't know where or when exactly. They had two years to build up their defenses on the Atlantic Wall.
We basically had one chance to land in Europe. If the Germans would have repelled the invasion and pushed the allies back into the Channel it would have probably taken another two years to launch another invasion. Who knows during that time what would have happened. American support for the invasion would have wained, Hitler would have stayed in power and possibly developed an atomic weapon, and the Allies may have agreed on a peace settlement that allowed Hitler and the Axis to remain in power. Who knows what the world would have become after that.
So to say this was just a day is a drastic understatement. If the allies would have failed everything else falls apart.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 11:04 am to RollTide1987
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I legitimately wanted to have a serious historical discussion.
Post something useful on the D-Day 75th Anniversary thread instead of this pre-mature and ill-timed thread.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 11:05 am to Pettifogger
quote:No he didn’t.
You got exactly what you wanted
And why is your avi a fat POS who is moments away from blowing a guy to hell with a shotgun for little reason?
That’s the trashiest thing I’ve ever seen here.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 11:29 am to LSUBalla
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We basically had one chance to land in Europe.
We were already in Europe at that point in time. U.S. forces were advancing up the Italian peninsula and had liberated Rome two days before the Normandy landings. We already had landings planned in the south of France for August 1944 (Operation Dragoon) that would have likely succeeded with or without the Normandy landings in June.
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If the Germans would have repelled the invasion and pushed the allies back into the Channel it would have probably taken another two years to launch another invasion. Who knows during that time what would have happened. American support for the invasion would have wained, Hitler would have stayed in power and possibly developed an atomic weapon, and the Allies may have agreed on a peace settlement that allowed Hitler and the Axis to remain in power. Who knows what the world would have become after that.
If the Germans had repelled the Normandy landings, we would have just shifted the "second front" to Italy or the south of France with Operation Dragoon. Politically it would have been a major blow to the Allied powers and a propaganda coup for the Germans, but militarily we would have recovered. As stated above, we were already advancing north up through Italy and there were other options such as invading the Balkans and joining the Russian advance on their southern flank.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 11:56 am to RollTide1987
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If the Germans had repelled the Normandy landings, we would have just shifted the "second front" to Italy or the south of France with Operation Dragoon.
You act like the Allies had an endless supply of troops. We committed 156,000 soldiers and
195,700 naval personnel to this one mission. If we fail it would take time, probably years, to recoup and launch another invasion. Not to mention political sentiment would be against sending thousands of more soldiers to their death. Were all our troops in the Normandy invasion? No but we committed a great deal of resources to the invasion and because we were advancing slowly through Italy because of the mountainous terrain. We needed a second western front to to take the pressure off the Russians. If the allies fail at Normandy who knows if the Russians get overwhelmed and settle for a separate peace.
This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 11:58 am
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