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re: Let’s discuss the French Revolution, please
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:25 pm to grizzlylongcut
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:25 pm to grizzlylongcut
Sort of, the poor people or commoners paid the majority of taxes by far as the rich or nobility paid very little in taxes as they were exempt from most of it. Around the same time France was facing major economic problems in large part due to the American revolution and French and Indian war. The rich continued to frick over the poor people who were the majority even with economic problems.
It can also be said that in a crazy ironic twist that the success of the American revolution helped inspire the French people to rise up against the ruling class in France.
Then the storming of the Bastille happened and it basically became Eat The Rich
It can also be said that in a crazy ironic twist that the success of the American revolution helped inspire the French people to rise up against the ruling class in France.
Then the storming of the Bastille happened and it basically became Eat The Rich
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:26 pm to LemmyLives
quote:great podcast
Podcast "The Rest is History,"
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:30 pm to grizzlylongcut
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This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:31 pm to dawgfan24348
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Then the storming of the Bastille happened and it basically became Eat The Rich
Yeah but the American Revolution was also different in that way because it was the upper class who led it too.
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:33 pm to grizzlylongcut
True but it's the one time in history a revolution was lead by its countries political and intellectual elite, not one or the other. The American revolution that is.
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:33 pm to CoachChappy
What he is doing now is straight trash. I listened to first like 3-4 episodes and stopped downloading.
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:39 pm to OWLFAN86
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it was the attempt to extend the rights of man granted to them by God, without including God
that's why it failed
Maybe. But the American Revolution is an anomaly in that it is a rare circumstance where people conquered an oppressing power and then immediately relinquished the political power that came with the victory.
In almost every other circumstance, the people conquering the oppressing power becomes more oppressive than the overthrown regime.
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:40 pm to grizzlylongcut
American revolution was different in that their rulers were across the ocean in a completely different country. They just made it hell for England to continue being there and once England realized it was no longer worth the fight they agreed to let the Americans form their own sovereign state.
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:43 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:Yes , you're correct, but I think a major part/trust of that is the people recognize that the government that was forming recognized that God had given the rights and government could not take them away
Maybe. But the American Revolution is an anomaly in that it is a rare circumstance where people conquered an oppressing power and then immediately relinquished the political power that came with the victory.
a covenant, if you will
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:45 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Where did it go so wrong?
'Liberating' yourself from... yourself is a very different thing from what the USA went through. You need a common enemy and a common goal. Russia and the US had both, but the French did not have the latter and that opens yourself for people like Robespiere and Napoleon who briefly made the situation even worse.
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:48 pm to grizzlylongcut
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the American Revolution and the U.S. Civil War so much more I guess organized is a good way to put it
And this is very revisionist. It seems to be true based on where we are now, but it absolutely wasn't the case. The Union nearly lost the war solely on its disorganization alone. Same for the American Revolution.
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:54 pm to grizzlylongcut
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But the French Revolution seems almost like a whole lot of stupidity
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French
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Stupidity
Do you want to know why everything in Louisiana sucks? Cause it’s the same people.
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:12 pm to grizzlylongcut
I’m not going to claim that I know anything about the French Revolution, and this is a little off a thread highjack. My grandmother left this to me when she passed. Cross passed down through the family since 1690’s.
This letter was a reply from the French Consulate when my grand mother had mailed a letter to them. What’s funny is she couldn’t get a good Polaroid of it so she drew a picture, ??
This letter was a reply from the French Consulate when my grand mother had mailed a letter to them. What’s funny is she couldn’t get a good Polaroid of it so she drew a picture, ??
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:15 pm to grizzlylongcut
Read
12 who ruled
Rousseau and Revolution by Durant. Won a Pulitzer
12 who ruled
Rousseau and Revolution by Durant. Won a Pulitzer
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:18 pm to grizzlylongcut
you aren't likely to get a discussion on why it really happened. same thing with World War 1. dig deep and see why they were really tied together.
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:25 pm to Bama Bird
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And this is very revisionist. It seems to be true based on where we are now, but it absolutely wasn't the case. The Union nearly lost the war solely on its disorganization alone. Same for the American Revolution.
Ok, how about controlled then? At least until Sherman decided to become a terrorist in the Civil War, the Revolution and Civil War were much more controlled than the French Revolution.
There weren’t guillotines, reigns of terror, etc.
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:28 pm to grizzlylongcut
quote:well there were lynchings,, and the klan
At least until Sherman decided to become a terrorist in the Civil War, the Revolution and Civil War were much more controlled than the French Revolution.
There weren’t guillotines, reigns of terror, etc.
democrats
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:40 pm to SammyTiger
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SammyTigerIf you like podcasts Mike duncan has a very long one about revolutions in general and a logn segment of it is about the French Revolution.
Best podcast that exists
I’ve listened to the seasons on American, Spanish (South American) , Mexican, Haitian, French , and Russian Revolutions
Wish he would come out with more seasons
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:44 pm to OWLFAN86
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well there were lynchings,, and the klan democrats
No where near the level of the French Revolution and wasn’t really until after the Civil War did both of those things happen en masse.
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:47 pm to Midtiger farm
he gives a lot of weight to the Silicon Valley.
not saying he's wrong, But I think he underestimates the northeastern establishment and oil and gas money
that's another topic
not saying he's wrong, But I think he underestimates the northeastern establishment and oil and gas money
that's another topic
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