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Posted on 9/17/26 at 2:21 pm to DawgCountry
I'm sure your father has stories to tell...if you haven't read it, try "Blind Man's Bluff". Really good.
Blind Man's Bluff
Blind Man's Bluff
Posted on 9/17/26 at 2:40 pm to TD422
Posted on 9/17/26 at 2:46 pm to Aguga
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Caterpillars are expensive
But they offer the best ROI over their life, hands down and it’s not even close.
Posted on 9/17/26 at 3:48 pm to TD422
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If I change the title of the thread to "Post Your Favorite Hunt for Red October Quotes", will you guys discuss Soviet submarines instead?
I musht be dreaming.
Posted on 9/17/26 at 3:56 pm to TD422
Posted on 9/17/26 at 4:00 pm to bad93ex
I would liked to have seen Montana.
Posted on 9/17/26 at 4:08 pm to TD422
Q: "How do you tell a sailor from the Northern Fleet?"
A: "He glows in the dark."
A: "He glows in the dark."
Posted on 9/17/26 at 4:11 pm to Ace Midnight
A rabbit hole on Submarine accidents can get you caught up for hours. Kursk, Thresher, Scorpion….those Kursk guys that survived the initial explosion suffered an awful fate.
Then can you imagine being a rescue diver having to into the Kursk and having bodies float into you with only your headlamp to see?
Then can you imagine being a rescue diver having to into the Kursk and having bodies float into you with only your headlamp to see?
Posted on 9/17/26 at 4:13 pm to TD422
Let’s not and say that we did.
Posted on 9/17/26 at 4:13 pm to TD422
Posted on 9/17/26 at 4:16 pm to UnitedFruitCompany
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105 on the reactor possible but not recommended
Posted on 9/17/26 at 4:20 pm to TD422
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If I change the title of the thread to "Post Your Favorite Hunt for Red October Quotes", will you guys discuss Soviet submarines instead?
This post was edited on 9/18/26 at 7:34 am
Posted on 9/17/26 at 4:30 pm to GrammarKnotsi
50 years ago, Navy friend told me that once anti-sub tech reached assured US " kill before launch" superiority over Russia, that the strategic value of subs would drop to near zero. I assume that the both US & Russia acquired "kill before launch" capability about 30 years ago. Subs are fun but no longer that important as a nuclear triad component in today's US Navy. Other countries anticipating littoral challenges may see differently.
Posted on 9/17/26 at 4:33 pm to TD422
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I always wondered why the US never attempted to match the speed and depth capabilities of the Alfa
Because what additional advantage would the extra speed and depth provide? The largest advantage in submarine warfare is silence, being slow and quiet is far more important than being fast and loud.
Soviet subs were generally bad designs with poor workmanship and incredibly loud. Their boats were so loud that we were almost always able to track them from the moment they left their base to the time they returned without them even being aware that they were tailed at all.
This post was edited on 9/17/26 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 9/17/26 at 4:39 pm to Lonnie Utah
Gosh darn it, now I want to watch the movie
Posted on 9/17/26 at 5:15 pm to Frac the world
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Then can you imagine being a rescue diver having to into the Kursk and having bodies float into you with only your headlamp to see?
Only semi-related - I recommend a 2019 documentary Last Breath. Do NOT look up anything related to it at all. Just watch it cold. I guarantee it will stick with you. Highest recommendation.
Posted on 9/17/26 at 8:58 pm to TD422
Off the top of my head, for the Alfa class:
1. Too expensive for the capability, not worth building it out of titanium.
2. The safe operation of the nuclear Navy is based on one type of reactor in different sizes and different generations. The Alfa's reactor design was wildly different and would've been a very tough sell to the Navy brass (i.e. impossible).
3. Going that fast blinds the submarine to other subs and broadcasts its position.
4. Going that deep has no tactical benefit.
5. Life span was too short since the reactor could not be refueled, only replaced. That's a major issue considering how long the US keeps submarines in service.
1. Too expensive for the capability, not worth building it out of titanium.
2. The safe operation of the nuclear Navy is based on one type of reactor in different sizes and different generations. The Alfa's reactor design was wildly different and would've been a very tough sell to the Navy brass (i.e. impossible).
3. Going that fast blinds the submarine to other subs and broadcasts its position.
4. Going that deep has no tactical benefit.
5. Life span was too short since the reactor could not be refueled, only replaced. That's a major issue considering how long the US keeps submarines in service.
Posted on 9/17/26 at 9:00 pm to Volvagia
When the Alpha Class was designed, those subs could dive deeper and run almost as fast as our Mk 48 torpedoes. We then produced the MK 48 ADCAP improved torpedo, much faster and deeper running. Negated the depth and speed advantages of the Alpha class.
Posted on 9/17/26 at 9:06 pm to bayouteche
"Let me have a Diablo sandwich and a Dr Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a god damn hurry!"
Wrong movie, but one of my favorite quotes.
Wrong movie, but one of my favorite quotes.
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