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re: Let’s discuss colonizing Mars. Why?

Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:33 pm to
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:33 pm to
The expanse touches on this as well. But like gumbo said the magnetosphere being nonexistent is a hard thing to compensate for.
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:33 pm to
Well there’s the rocks. And also all that sweet Martian pussy.
Posted by Tall Tiger
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:36 pm to
The core of Mars is made of ice. Aliens built an underground reactor that can melt the ice and create an oxygenated atmosphere in which humans can live.
Posted by Thundercles
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:37 pm to
We're eventually going to figure out how to go farther in space and also run out of resources on Earth. We'll eventually figure out how to terraform planets. Mars is the only planet we can realistically land on to practice taking the next steps.
Posted by billjamin
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:39 pm to
You have to start somewhere or we’re never going to find the planet with giant worms and spice.
Posted by reggierayreb
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:43 pm to


Ray Bradbury wrote this short story in 1950


The Other Foot

Mars has been colonized solely by black people. When they learn that a rocket is coming from Earth with white travellers, they institute a Jim Crow system of racial segregation in retaliation for how the whites once treated them. When the rocket lands, the travelers tell them that the entire Earth has been destroyed by war, including all of the horrific mementos of racism (such as trees used for lynching black people), leaving few survivors. The black people take pity on the white travelers and accept them into their new society.
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 10:45 pm
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:44 pm to
After we frick Earth to death, we're gonna go frick other planets. Yeah, bitches.

This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 10:47 pm
Posted by LPTReb
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:44 pm to
Because they have women with 3 boobs.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:46 pm to
Let’s hope our alien overseers come back and uplift us before we all kill each other
Posted by lsusa
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

Read ‘Red Rising’ it has the answers to all of your questions


Or like…you could just maybe summarize what the book said for us….
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:49 pm to
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Atmosphere is 95% CO2. Pressure is 0.15 psia. Zero water.


Those are pretty big impediments.



Forgot climate

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The temperature on Mars can range from -225°F (-153°C) to 70°F (20°C), with an average surface temperature of -85°F (-65°C).


Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:53 pm to
The only "colonizing" I could ever see transpiring is one where we have a small group collecting resources similar to an offshore operation. It certainly would not be useful for #4 even if we did find an Earth-like planet. There'd be no statistical difference between launching from Earth or from Mars when talking about distance at that kind of scale
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:02 pm to
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Use a planet up, throw it away and destroy another one?
I have no idea if colonizing Mars will ever be feasible, and I'm not terribly optimistic that we'll ever come close to achieving it, before we reset ourselves 10,000 years, but the idea is more "don't put all your eggs in one basket" than it is "move away from California."

Point taken, though.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:03 pm to
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Mars has a very small magnetosphere. Forming an atmosphere that humans could live would be impossible.


Well we’d have to create something that can create a magnetosphere obviously.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:43 pm to
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Use a planet up, throw it away and destroy another one?


You people are lunatics. A volcano explodes in the south Pacific in the 1800s and does more climate damage than all of the atomic and hydrogen bombs anyone has ever tested, worldwide. But keep on going.

To OP, I think it's fair to think that we're going to end up something like the Expanse once we go extra-terrestrial. I'm definitely Martian at that point.

Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:55 pm to
Snowpiercer baby.
Posted by John McClane
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:01 am to
Heard of terraforming bro?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:06 am to
I'm curious how we'd figure that out. But I think the bigger issue would (as always) end up being class warfare. You only ship colonists that serve a purpose, and then every one else yells "it's not fair."

You get a taste of this in Silo.
Posted by lovethetigers7
Member since Jul 2019
550 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:22 am to
Matt Damon did it. He used his own shite to grow potatoes and then blew the thing up. True story
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:34 am to
Why are we equating “colonizing” with exploration and research? Even if there is a long term manned station there it’s not colonization.


And the moon is the stepping stone, not Mars. It’s why the big project to put a refueling space station in lunar orbit is called “Gateway”
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