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Legal question: What are your rights when buying a vehicle from an individual?

Posted on 6/29/18 at 6:50 am
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 6:50 am
My brother (who is a dumbass) bought a vehicle from an individual yesterday. The ad and person selling promised him that there was absolutely nothing wrong with this vehicle. He looked at it, made sure everything seemed in order, paid 11k cash, and then began to drive it back to his house (couple hour trip)

His transmission broke in half about 15 miles down the road. Called the seller and they pretty much said GFY. Is he screwed or does he have any rights at all? I told him that I think he’s SOL.
Posted by specchaser
lafayette
Member since Feb 2008
2591 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 6:51 am to
SOL unless bill of sale says otherwise
Posted by btr08ex
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
453 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 6:51 am to
That might qualify under the lemon laws
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14037 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 6:51 am to
Yeah he’s screwed. Maybe bring an expert with him to look at the car next time
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16474 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 6:58 am to
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That might qualify under the lemon laws


I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not. Lemon Laws generally apply to new vehicles when the same issue occurs many times and hasn’t been remedied by the manufacture/dealer. None of that applies here.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 6:58 am to
As is.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 6:59 am to
Just get a new transmission and move on. What kind of car? Probably get a quality rebuilt/used
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 7:00 am to
He bought a Just Empty Every Pocket

And it’s living up to the hype
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45160 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 7:03 am to
Your brother is screwed and stupid.
Posted by BamaTiger00
NOLA
Member since May 2006
840 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 7:03 am to
You're looking for the redhibition statute, which is similar to other state’s lemon laws. It does apply to used cars as well. I wrote an article on it a few years ago, but generally no one I know will touch a redhibition case, for a number of reasons. Also depends what docs he signed, whether he waived redhibition, etc.
This post was edited on 6/29/18 at 7:05 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67493 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 7:04 am to
If you buy anything "as is" then when you shake hands and exchange your cash for the keys then it's a done deal. You'd have to prove the seller knew something was wrong to prove fraud.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69111 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 7:06 am to
100% his fault for not having a mechanic check it out first.
Posted by Fachie
Magnolia
Member since Mar 2017
449 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 7:13 am to
Transmission or transfer case? There have been a few older Jeeps I have seen just explode a transfer case without warning. Craigslist a new one and move on.
Posted by BamaTiger00
NOLA
Member since May 2006
840 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 7:13 am to
Wtodd is on the right track. You may have to prove fraud. Another requirement is that the car had to be defective when exchanged/delivered. I think there may be a presumption of defectiveness if the problem arises in a couple of days, or something like that.

Either way, that’s why you always have a used car checked out by an independent, certified mechanic before buying. I’ve walked away from buying 2 used cars after the mechanic told me there were problems.
Posted by Minnesota Tiger
Member since Oct 2005
4414 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 7:14 am to
Tell your brother not to do that.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67493 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 7:16 am to
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Either way, that’s why you always have a used car checked out by an independent, certified mechanic before buying. I’ve walked away from buying 2 used cars after the mechanic told me there were problems.

One other thing to do and it's important: when you buy a used vehicle, take it to the local cops and let them run the dogs through it.....seriously.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
5777 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 7:23 am to
Contact an attorney.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12129 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 7:26 am to
quote:

My brother (who is a dumbass) bought a vehicle from an individual yesterday. The ad and person selling promised him that there was absolutely nothing wrong with this vehicle. He looked at it, made sure everything seemed in order, paid 11k cash, and then began to drive it back to his house (couple hour trip)

His transmission broke in half about 15 miles down the road. Called the seller and they pretty much said GFY. Is he screwed or does he have any rights at all? I told him that I think he’s SOL.



a. this might be an unlucky lottery situation where the transmission genuinely took a shite without the previous owner having an idea.

b. the previous owner might not know shite about cars and didn't know there was anything wrong.

c. you said it was a jeep, if it was a CJ7 a lot of them came with a quadratrac transfer case in the 70s that have a chain drive that sucks. I rebuilt mine with a new $300 chain, refitted everything and sold it. I talked to the people a couple months later and they said that they blew up the transfer case within a month. The chain just exploded and they had to rebuild it again.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18974 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 7:28 am to
I'm not an expert but why wouldn't the agreement be tentative upon it being inspected by a mechanic?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 7:29 am to
Contracts have to be entered into in good faith so it's possible your brother isn't totally screwed. However, it'd probably be hard to win and cost more than repairing the Jeep so I'd move on.
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