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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/16/22 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 8:38 pm to
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The sad part is we could ramp up production in our own country to cover the shortfall....if we weren't too busy paying farmers to grow corn for ethanol.



Sri Lanka is suffering a food shortage from a self-inflicted wound that occurred almost a years before the invasion of Ukraine. They elected a president who went full retard on "sustainable agriculture" (aka organic farming) and banned chemical fertilizer.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3604 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 8:38 pm to
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Avalon Hill's Panzer Leader...


Well well... that's a name I haven't heard in a long long time...
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 8:46 pm to
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President Putin is making low-level tactical decisions


Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 8:48 pm to
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The other experience I had was sitting in a hotel bar in Stuttgart while I was spending the week at EUCOM. I thought maybe I'd see if the Bama game was on, just for shits and giggles. It was. And I soon found out why. Whole group of industrial baws out of Cullman were there for the week getting trained on some high speed German shite. Decked to the T with Bama swag.

So I watched that game, they got me completely hammered, in a bar in a high end hotel in Stuttgart Germany, with a bunch of redneck baws from Cullman, Alabama. Just south of where I grew up.

The Germans were so confused about what "Roll Tide!" meant.


F**K Bama!

ETA: The Germans were probably wondering why y'all were bragging about sleeping with your sister/cousins.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 9:01 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 8:54 pm to
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The Ukrainian foreign minister said Ukraine still aims to restore full territorial integrity. That would include areas of the eastern Donbas region controlled by Russian-backed forces before the invasion, as well as the Crimean Peninsula seized by Russia in 2014.

The foreign minister, in Brussels to meet EU counterparts, expressed confidence that Ukraine would eventually win the war against Russia."We want everything that belongs to us to be ours," he said.



Like I said on Saturday. I have sauce(s) in the UAF and they are not stopping until they take back every inch of Ukraine, tie all the Russian war criminals and Ukrainians who collaborated with Russia to the Kerch Strait bridge, and then dynamite it into the sea with the people tied to it still alive.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 8:59 pm to
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President Putin is making low-level tactical decisions that would normally be decided by an officer in charge of as few as 700 Russian troops, western military sources say.



Shite Putin is going full Hitler. Hitler did the same thing until the German high command figured out Hitler liked to large numbers of divisions on the map instead of actual large divisions. So they left divisions who had already been killed off or captured on the map so Hitler would spend his time meddling with ghost divisions and only occasionally order an actual combat capable division into doing something stupid.
Posted by Mr Happy
Member since May 2019
2753 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:14 pm to
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The female moderator really didn't want him to make those points.

That was an amazing video. I wondered if the chick really believed that crap she was saying.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11918 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:16 pm to
Interesting how they’re closely tracking Lend-Lease’s progress in Congress and who’s on their side (Rand, btw).
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:16 pm to
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The female moderator really didn't want him to make those points.

That was an amazing video. I wondered if the chick really believed that crap she was saying.


Russian women can lie better than anything on this planet. They can fake it better than most Hollywood actors. I know from personal experience.
Posted by SwampGar
Texas
Member since Jan 2020
1486 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:22 pm to
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“In an extremely rare moment of candour on Russian state TV today, defence columnist Mikhail Khodaryonok gave a damning assessment of Russia's war in Ukraine and his country's international isolation.”


Wow, that was unexpected.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37636 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:24 pm to
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That was an amazing video. I wondered if the chick really believed that crap she was saying


I don't know either. She could be a loyalist who tows the line but doesn't believe. Or she could believe everything she argued.

The body language from the other men on the program (who didn't speak) gave me the feeling they were nervous and uncomfortable with what he said - probably because they were on camera while he was saying it.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:37 pm to
ISW update May 16th

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Frictions between Russian occupation administrations and pro-Russian collaborators is growing in occupied areas of Ukraine. The Zaporizhia Oblast Military Administration reported that Russian forces are having serious conflicts with collaborators due to interpersonal power conflicts.[4] A well-known collaborator in Zaporizhia accused the Russian-installed governor of the area of stealing his 10,000 ruble compensation. Advisor to the Mayor of Mariupol Petro Andryshchenko additionally claimed that relatives of those mobilized into the forces of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) are holding a mass protest against mobilization in Donetsk City. While ISW cannot independently verify these claims, such discontent amongst occupation elements suggests a general lack of planning by Russian authorities in occupied areas, now compounded by increasingly evident Russian losses.

Key Takeaways

Russian and Ukrainian authorities negotiated the evacuation of 264 wounded Ukrainian servicemen from the Azovstal Steel Plant on May 16.

Ukrainian forces reached the Russian border north of Kharkiv City.

Russian forces continued unsuccessful ground operations in Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts and did not make any confirmed advances on May 16.

Russian forces continued to fortify their positions in Zaporizhia Oblast.




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Immediate items to watch

Russian forces will likely complete their withdrawal from the vicinity of Kharkiv City but attempt to hold a line west of Vovchansk to defend their GLOCs from Belgorod to Izyum. It is unclear if they will succeed.

The Russians will continue efforts to encircle Severodonetsk and Lysychansk at least from the south, possibly by focusing on cutting off the last highway connecting Severodonetsk-Lysychansk with the rest of Ukraine.

A Ukrainian counter-offensive around Izyum will likely begin soon.

The Battle of Mariupol may be coming to an end.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:37 pm to
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Interesting how they’re closely tracking Lend-Lease’s progress in Congress and who’s on their side (Rand, btw).



Rand is holding up the aid not because he wants Russia to win or he does not want the USA to help Ukraine. Take your liberal partisan hat glasses off and actually read why he is holding up the aid.

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The security package isn’t expected to pass until later this week because a single Republican senator, Rand Paul of Kentucky, is objecting to a quick vote on the measure.

Paul has demanded the legislation give an inspector general authority to oversee spending, which he called unprecedented and fiscally unsound. But Democrats said that would require a re-vote in the House and burn precious time given Russia’s daily bombing of Ukrainian cities that is causing horrifying scenes of death and devastation.
LINK

Rand is on the side of fiscal responsibility and transparency. That is not the same thing as being on Russia's side.

FTR, I am as pro-Ukrainian as an American can be, but I support Rand's stand here. Taking the time to amend the bill for an inspector general to oversea the program and have the House vote on the amended bill is not going to cost the life of a single soldier or civilian in Ukraine and it is not going to make a difference in the outcome of the war. The USA can support Ukraine and do it in a way that allows American taxpayers to know that it is spending our money on things that actually will actually kill Russians and not just line the pockets of the lobbyists on K Street in DC and on Bankova Street in Kiev.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11918 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:39 pm to
For context for understanding Russian TV propaganda, there's a nice passage from Pomerantsev's Nothing is True and Everything is Possible about his introduction to Russian television (where he went as a Ukrainian-born but British-raised young man to produce reality TV):

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The first thing that the President [Putin] had done when he came to power in 2000 was to seize control of television. It was television through which the Kremlin decided which politicians it would allow as its puppet opposition, what the country’s history and fears and consciousness should be. And the new Kremlin would not make the same mistake the old Soviet Union did. It would never let TV become dull. The task was to synthesize Soviet control with Western entertainment.

21st century Estankno mixes show business and propaganda, ratings with authoritarianism, and at the center of this great show was the president himself, created from a no one, great buzz by the power of television. So that he morphs as rapidly as a performance artist, among his roles of soldier, lover, bare-chested hunter, businessman, spy, Tsar, superman. “The news is the incense by which we bless Putin’s actions, make him the president”, TV producers and political technologists like to say. Sitting in that smoky room, I had the sense that reality was somehow malleable, that I was sitting with Prosperos who could project any reality they wanted onto Post-Soviet Russia.


This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 10:12 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11918 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:40 pm to
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Rand is holding up the aid not because he wants Russia to win or he does not want the USA to help Ukraine.


Why has he been trying to get Russian oligarchs off sanctions the past 5 years?
Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
2841 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:51 pm to
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Rand is on the side of fiscal responsibility and transparency. That is not the same thing as being on Russia's side.

Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31326 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:51 pm to
This thread still isn’t stickied despite multiple requests?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:57 pm to
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Why has he been trying to get Russian oligarchs off sanctions the past 5 years?




If I had to guess, it probably has something to do with him leaning towards isolationism and the USA, but IDK for sure. Why don't you email his office and ask?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:58 pm to
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LeClerc


Why are you opposed to knowing where the USA's $$$ is going?
Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
2841 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:04 pm to
He doesn’t care where the money goes. This is just more grandstanding by Paul like he always does. He’s full of shite. I can’t believe you don’t know that.
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