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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by J Murdah
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:45 pm to
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Can you start your own meme thread or something?
at this point he's probably getting off or giggling to himself thinking he's some expert level troll
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:46 pm to
A Ukraine meme thread isn’t a bad idea right now, tbh.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:50 pm to
So since NATO is seemingly firing up,

I believe that there is currently an armored BCT in Europe (unrelated to this incident) as well as the 82nd mobilizing. Seeing as the US has stated that armored units will be most important against a Russian or Chinese threat, I’m assuming we’d see armored BCTs being amongst the first of those (of any) heading to Europe?
Posted by Wermanium
Member since Apr 2016
760 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:51 pm to
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Reason they are reluctant to ban Russian banks from SWIFT. Russians banks would be crippled , but they also cannot repay Western banks the tens of Billions in loan / interest payments.


And Europe have any way to buy Russian oil which they badly need.
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:52 pm to
we have strikers but no Abrams in europe right? or do we have some in poland?
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Russia has struck both a Japanese and a Moldovan ship


We’re getting real close here. Japan is about as close as we’re going to get to NATO outside of NATO for getting us involved in anything.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:53 pm to
The 82nd is in Poland 50 miles from the border with troops somewhere less than 6 miles from the border.

We really need to work on our opsec more.

Apparently without saying so, we flew into Ukraine the other day with 2 Ospreys and 2 C130s and flew some people out.

Also, saw on facebook a few days ago, people wishing all the soldiers from Ft Bragg good luck in Ukraine.

Like shut the frick people. Wait until they get back, then say whatever you want.

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:55 pm to
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we have strikers but no Abrams in europe right? or do we have some in poland?



Poland just bought 250 Abrams last week.

Safe to say they are not there yet.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:56 pm to
You would think air superiority would be the most important thing to establish first.

The Week UK article. Russia Vs NATO who would win

Has some good info on troop and equipment numbers and some plausible scenarios
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:57 pm to
3rd Armored of the 4th ID is in Europe if I’m reading correctly. They have armor per TOE but I’m not sure if they have Abrams in Europe

Current TOE Somewhat confusing to me as there are battalions in the same regiment that are then in separate BCTs
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 1:59 pm
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10575 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:59 pm to
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3rd Armored of the 4th ID is in Europe if I’m reading correctly. They have armor per TOE but I’m not sure if they have Abrams in Europe

Current TOE Somewhat confusing to me as there are battalions in the same regiment that are then in separate BCTs


this entire post would be as understandable to me as if it were in spanish. I wish I knew all of these terms/acronyms
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 2:02 pm to
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I’m not sure if they have Abrams in Europe




Should be enough to scare Russia. They know they don’t have the resources to feed her.

And she comes with a built in gap so they can’t surround her.
Posted by big_tuna
Member since Jun 2019
600 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 2:02 pm to
Unfortunately, in today's age, that isn't going to happen unless the cut cell service and comms.

I am aware of a fellow who was just sent to Poland a few weeks ago. Gotta feel for the guy. He enlisted less than 8 months ago and according to his family, received very little training.
Posted by duggieblue
GA
Member since Feb 2010
4365 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 2:03 pm to
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The Week UK article. Russia Vs NATO who would win Has some good info on troop and equipment numbers and some plausible scenarios


This is an interesting analogy:

“ While Felgenhauer agreed with Golt’s assessment of the US’s military advantage, he warned that open warfare often comes down to far more than the inventories that each side of the conflict can call upon.

He told DW that “it’s like predicting the result of a soccer match”, adding: “Yes, basically, Brazil should beat America in soccer, but I have seen Americans beat Brazil in South Africa, at the Confederations Cup. You never know the result until the game is played.”
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 2:06 pm to
History is peppered with stories of armies that were better equipped and far outnumbered their adversaries, yet still lost.

Never underestimate a cornered, wounded animal. When it becomes (or can be painted as) an existential threat to a people, all bets are off.

This is going to get ugly. I was hoping for a better outcome but it looks worse by the minute.
Posted by kisatchie53
Member since Jul 2011
1964 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 2:08 pm to
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They’re basically the Lane Kiffin of terrorist organizations


Well done
Posted by tsmi136
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 2:10 pm to
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this entire post would be as understandable to me as if it were in spanish. I wish I knew all of these terms/acronyms

ID = Infantry Division
TOE = Terms of Engagement
BCT = Brigade Combat Team or Battalion Combat Team, I think
Posted by duggieblue
GA
Member since Feb 2010
4365 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 2:11 pm to
I know. I was talking about the silly soccer analogy.
Posted by tsmi136
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
4071 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 2:11 pm to
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received very little training.

He'll fit right in
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 2:13 pm to
TOE Table of Organization and Equipment
quote:

BCT = Brigade Combat Team
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