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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/8/22 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by MikeyFL
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 7:50 pm to
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As I said, they are encircling UA troops


Tell me how Russia's breathtaking logistical prowess will enable this impressive maneuver, comrade.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 7:57 pm to
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I've put no timelines on this conflict like the media has. This is likely to last years. However, unless Ukraine receives massive amounts of not just aid, but troops, it will be death by 1000 cuts.


I don’t think Putin has years. The longer this drags on the more pressure will be placed on the Russian economy. They do not possess the production capacity nor do they have the currency to purchase arms to sustain years of war.

Ukraine will be propped up by Poland and other Eastern European countries that do not wish to share a border with Russia
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 7:59 pm to
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Tell me how Russia's breathtaking logistical prowess will enable this impressive maneuver, comrade.


Probably the same way they did in Mariupol. Sending warm bodies until the objective is done.

How does having a discussion about the war make one a comrade?

Is this the depth of your mental faculty?
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 7:59 pm to
Beyond taking Popsana, what gain has Russia made anywhere in the south? By gain, I mean move the front lines forward by at least 5km
Posted by JayDeerTay84
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:00 pm to
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I don’t think Putin has years. The longer this drags on the more pressure will be placed on the Russian economy. They do not possess the production capacity nor do they have the currency to purchase arms to sustain years of war.

Ukraine will be propped up by Poland and other Eastern European countries that do not wish to share a border with Russia



Russia isn't alone though. Do you think China would favor the US over Russia? Do we not consider China and India's ability to fight the west via this proxy?

Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:02 pm to
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Probably the same way they did in Mariupol. Sending warm bodies until the objective is done.



I make no claims to my mental faculties, but you might want to look up the meaning of "logistics."

(Hint: There's a difference between medieval bombardment of a city and running a military through open countryside.)
Posted by JayDeerTay84
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:03 pm to
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I make no claims to my mental faculties, but you might want to look up the meaning of "logistics."

(Hint: There's a difference between medieval bombardment of a city and running a military through open countryside.)


I dont need to look it up. You were making a snide remark and I called you on it. Just because I have started a discussion talking about it not being so "bright" for Ukraine doesn't make me a Putin puppet, comrade or whatever else you guys throw around in here. Obviously, its a dynamic and serious situation.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:04 pm to
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Do you think China would favor the US over Russia?
Uh, you might want to sit down for this one, Alexei.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:08 pm to
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Russia isn't alone though. Do you think China would favor the US over Russia? Do we not consider China and India's ability to fight the west via this proxy?


Russia has proven unworthy of a Chinese gamble in siding with them against the west at this point. Had this gone as expected, maybe it’s a different story.

India and China are not going to be on the same team boss.
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:09 pm to
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Do we not consider China and India's ability to fight the west via this proxy?


Whenever I think of China and India, the first thing that comes to mind is their long friendship and allied interests.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:10 pm to
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India and China are not going to be on the same team boss.


Yet, they both are standing behind who?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:15 pm to
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Russia isn't alone though. Do you think China would favor the US over Russia? Do we not consider China and India's ability to fight the west via this proxy?


This post alone just let everyone know you don’t understand anything about geopolitics

China and India LMAO

They are are mortal enemies
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:22 pm to
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China and India LMAO

They are are mortal enemies


Yet they are both making deals with Russia.

You can laugh, but the US and uhhh the "Soviets" fought against the Nazi's.

Again, I make a valid point in opposition to the point that Russia "has no means" by stating Russia is currently making deals and has support from the worlds 2 largest population centers and this is what you guys reply with.

I dont know, maybe you guys dont actually want to talk about it all and just want to upvote eachother.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 8:23 pm
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:25 pm to
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Yet, they both are standing behind who?


They have each acted individually for their own self interests, largely walking a tightrope as to not publicly take a side and jeopardize their own geopolitical positions with the west.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:26 pm to
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Yet they are both making deals with Russia.


We were just begging Venezuela and Iran for oil, we on their side now too?
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:26 pm to
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They have each acted individually for their own self interests, largely walking a tightrope as to not publicly take a side and jeopardize their own geopolitical positions with the west.



I dont disagree with that, but it is of importance that both are making financial deals with Russia which in-turn helps Russias war efforts.

In the same way, as mentioned here, NATO countries helping Ukraine.

Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126749 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:30 pm to
China and India are not going to plot together to work with Russia to undermine America

They literally just had a conflict with troops killed on both sides in hand to hand combat with in the last couple years.

India has remained neutral in all this due to deals buying Russian arms, but the last few years have moved more to getting American equipment

India and China will never be partners, that entire area along with Pakistan is a giant powder keg.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:31 pm to
I never mentioned them as partners. I only mentioned them together as they are the 2 largest actively working with Russia.

If it wasn't so hostile in this thread that part probably would have been noticed.

I was replying to this comment above:

quote:

They do not possess the production capacity nor do they have the currency to purchase arms to sustain years of war.

Ukraine will be propped up by Poland and other Eastern European countries that do not wish to share a border with Russia


With India and Chinas help, they certainly do have the currency and capacity.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 8:33 pm
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:33 pm to
NATO countries have still been buying Russian energy, but that doesn’t count because they didn’t get it at a discount like India?
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:37 pm to
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NATO countries have still been buying Russian energy, but that doesn’t count because they didn’t get it at a discount like India?



Who said it didnt count as support?

Like I said, are you just trying to argue because you think I am pro-Russian or something?



This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 8:38 pm
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