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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/13/22 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 4:30 pm to
Yeah, but where does this lead.

A) China joins Belarus and Russia and we inch ever so closer to two alliances clashing in World War 3

B) China declines and Putin’s desperation leads to further escalation
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
5063 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 4:36 pm to
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presence of these bio labs confirms the election was stolen.

Jesus.




whooosh
Posted by phunkatron
Member since Jun 2019
1444 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 4:38 pm to
My understanding of the issue wasn't so much with the tires themselves, it was more so that the Russian Military left them unattended on parked vehicles to bake in sunlight for months-years on end against protocol.

$20 million mobile AA system ain't good for shite when you ignore basic upkeep.
This post was edited on 3/13/22 at 4:42 pm
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 4:39 pm to
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Something tells me that this is not the fight China wants to pick.

They’ve probably re-assessed their own military since the Russian debacle and have uncovered their own shortcomings.



Agree with this. Taiwan is probably on hold, but I’d expect more island training in larger scales from China in the future using some of their man made islands.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 4:40 pm to
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Yeah, but where does this lead.

A) China joins Belarus and Russia and we inch ever so closer to two alliances clashing in World War 3

B) China declines and Putin’s desperation leads to further escalation


C) B + China mediates eventual “peace”
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 4:40 pm to
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It’s commonly used as a barometer of trustworthiness of source, but folks like CNN and Iran’s president are verified.


It has nothing to do with trustworthiness other than verifying a well known name or person with large enough twitter following is the person linked to the account.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
4057 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 4:43 pm to
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 11:36 am
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
5063 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 4:44 pm to
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Attacking a Russian proxy state is effectively attacking Russia. He knows this though so I’m not giving him the benefit of the doubt of being stupid.
Not only that, if what's being said about Belarus's military teetering isn't just bullshite, this would be a great way to drive them back into full-on Russia forever.

frick him.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 4:44 pm to
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Verified account by Twitter. Generally represents a well known figure like a member of the media who’s credentials are verifiable, famous people, and state officials. It’s commonly used as a barometer of trustworthiness of source, but folks like CNN and Iran’s president are verified.



Thx. I just thought it was a Bumble thing.
Posted by phunkatron
Member since Jun 2019
1444 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 4:46 pm to
A month ago... an endless stream of confrontational posturing and over-the-top empty threats.

Not so sure how they'd respond given the current global political climate. I hope we don't have to find out.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 4:50 pm to
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Thought experiment-- what would China do if we revived SEATO and in addition to US, UK, Japan, Phillipines, and Australia, started making noise about inducting Taiwan as a member?



That’s an excellent question that I think has an evolving answer in light of current events. 3 weeks ago? Probably invade. Now? My best guess is some combination of economic action that’s significant to us and the other partners along with a significant increase in military posture and drilling in the region. Probably more formal and open establishment of military cooperation with Russia, though this is a finer line than before.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 5:02 pm to
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Russia must be truly desperate asking China for assistance



Gosh ya hate to see Vlad on his knees like this, not a good look. But maybe the Chinese have a weapon that will keep those mean farmers from hauling away all of Vlads tanks.
This post was edited on 3/13/22 at 5:07 pm
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5996 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 5:08 pm to
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Interesting that Russia has shifted to actually honoring and allowing agreed upon humanitarian corridors to operate.


People get a little more queasy about committing war crimes when they realize they might be on the losing side of the war.
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1740 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 5:22 pm to
Maybe Russia can talk Belgrade into making the Yugo again.

US News

quote:

TOKYO (Reuters) -Toyota Motor Corp will halt production at its Russian factory from Friday while vehicle imports into the country have also stopped indefinitely due to supply chain disruptions, the automaker said.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 5:29 pm to
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Maybe Russia can talk Belgrade into making the Yugo again.



Yes sir, Russian engineering meets Yugoslavian craftsmanship .
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28833 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 5:35 pm to
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Gosh ya hate to see Vlad on his knees like this, not a good look.

He was simply outmaneuvered by Washington in the lead up to the invasion. As he built up troops on the border, Biden went on the offensive, insisting that Russia was preparing to invade and start an aggressive shooting war. Putin had to deny it because there was no provocation. Then Biden accused Russia of planning a pretense, and Putin had to again deny. The PoliBoard Russians were mocking Biden. By the time Putin's army invaded, the west was already aligned and ready to respond if Washington's predictions came true, and they did.

For all of those with a hard-on to proclaim that America and Biden are weak and Russia/Putin is strong, this adventure shows the exact opposite. We do have adults in the room.

Russia is isolated and begging for help from Syria, Chechnya, Belarus, and China. China is coming to the realization that if it aligns with Russia, it will also get harmed. The US is not isolated or weakened. The balance of power has shifted more to the US and western Europe. Russia cannot trade with Europe, it's currency has no value, its stock market is closed, and the long-term damage is substantial. A military victory in Ukraine will only make Russia's long term prospects worse.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 5:41 pm to
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Yeah, but where does this lead.

A) China joins Belarus and Russia and we inch ever so closer to two alliances clashing in World War 3

B) China declines and Putin’s desperation leads to further escalation


Easy answer: risk B. You do not want to bring China actively in this situation, especially since they’ll immediately start amassing forces in their SE border. The Chinese would agree with me BTW.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 5:42 pm to
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Thought experiment-- what would China do if we revived SEATO and in addition to US, UK, Japan, Phillipines, and Australia, started making noise about inducting Taiwan as a member?


Ummmmm, World War III.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 5:43 pm to
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That’s an excellent question that I think has an evolving answer in light of current events. 3 weeks ago? Probably invade. Now? My best guess is some combination of economic action that’s significant to us and the other partners along with a significant increase in military posture and drilling in the region. Probably more formal and open establishment of military cooperation with Russia, though this is a finer line than before.


No. Xi would not tolerate that encroachment. It’s war if we do this.
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