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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:51 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:51 am to
Yeah I'm not reading a year of old posts just to catch up on the lore of the thread, that's ridiculous

I would have asked you about it, but you just make shite up all the time so I asked someone more reliable aka literally anyone else in the thread
Posted by Camp Randall
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:09 am to
This thread was news and a normal fairly neutral discussion. Watching the invasion happen and marveling at Russian military incompetence.

Every so often a PT poster would come in spewing bullshite somehow bizarrely equating democrats with Ukraine and republicans with Russia. I know how much your panties get bunched when someone talks about the PT board here but that’s why.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:30 am to
The Body Exchange that was agreed to in Istanbul has been completed. Russia has informed Ukraine they have another 2,239 Ukrainian bodies for them


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Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:57 am to
Questions

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But on Wednesday, some group members were voicing their frustration and anger. Moscow announced it had returned the bodies of more than 1,200 Ukrainian soldiers, and in turn received the remains of 27 Russian soldiers.

"How are they getting their fighters, and we can't ours?" said one woman.


quote:

Another group member said that her husband, who is currently listed as missing, told her during one of their last conversations that the fields were "covered with corpses and no one takes them away."

A third woman replied, "Officials only talk pretty, but in reality it is the opposite."

Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:25 am to
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Russia has informed Ukraine they have another 2,239 Ukrainian bodies for them


Oof
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:27 am to
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Every so often a PT poster would come in spewing bullshite somehow bizarrely equating democrats with Ukraine and republicans with Russia


Oh wow that is so bizarre. I wonder why anyone would see a correlation?
Posted by RockChalkTiger
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:37 am to
Ukraine is bringing home their heroes to give them a proper burial.
Russia is running short of fertilizer.
Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:59 am to
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Ukraine is bringing home their heroes to give them a proper burial.
Russia is running short of fertilizer


Zelensky delayed taking them for 2 weeks. When finally enough public backlash made him take his dead soldiers. That failed Kursk operation was a total disaster for Ukraine
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:06 am to
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I know how much your panties get bunched when someone talks about the PT board here but that’s why.


Even still it just doesn't make sense to me to get so triggered by PT posts. Its an entirely separate board, its extremely easy to ignore and I do that myself the vast majority of the time.

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democrats with Ukraine and republicans with Russia


Well if you ask the fringe hardliners on each side I think they would probably agree with that.

Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:23 am to
not surprising...


Russia hands over bodies of its own soldiers in recent exchange, Kyiv says


by Kateryna Denisova June 16, 2025 6:57 PM

Russia has handed Kyiv the bodies of its own soldiers mixed in with those of Ukrainian soldiers during recent repatriation of the fallen, Interior Minister Ihor Klymenko said on June 16.

Klymenko's statement follows the completion of an exchange between Ukraine and Russia of the remains of soldiers killed in action earlier the same day, under agreements reached during recent peace talks in Istanbul.

Kyiv returned a total of 6,057 bodies. Vladimir Medinsky, an aide to Russian President Vladimir Putin and member of the Russian delegation at the Istanbul talks, claimed that Russia received the bodies of 78 deceased servicemen.

According to Klymenko, the identification process has been significantly complicated by the condition in which Russia returned the bodies.

"Parts of the bodies (of fallen soldiers) are in different bags. There are cases when the remains of one person are returned even during different stages of repatriation," the minister said.

Klymenko said that Russia may have included the bodies of its own soldiers in the transfer to Ukraine either on purpose or by accident.

"This could have been done by the Russians on purpose to increase the number of bodies transferred and to load our (forensic) experts with work, adding to all this cynical information pressure. Or it could be their usual negligent attitude toward their own people. In any case, we also identify these bodies," Klymenko said.

The Kyiv Independent
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:59 am to
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Klymenko said that Russia may have included the bodies


Holy Copeman and Fake Propaganda
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 12:02 pm to
I see how you might read it that way, but the full quote makes it seem like it was more about whether or not it was on purpose, not whether or not it happened at all.

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may have included the bodies of its own soldiers in the transfer to Ukraine either on purpose or by accident.


You would think they would have said a number if it was significant though. Maybe they will in the future.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8164 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 12:04 pm to
This thread was created EXACTLY like the thread that is pinned above it discussing the Israel/Iran war. When the war started, there was a thread about it, lots of people posted in it. There were threads on the PT as well; however, they didn't remain pinned due to people losing interest in them. This thread became the de facto thread to discuss news of the war.

ETA: it wasn't created to give anyone a safe space.
This post was edited on 6/16/25 at 12:05 pm
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 12:05 pm to
Yet you called people liars when they referred to the past.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 12:05 pm to
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Klymenko said that Russia may have included the bodies


As usual you provide partial statements, omitting context, in order to distort what was said.

Klymenko said that Russia may have included the bodies of its own soldiers in the transfer to Ukraine either on purpose or by accident.
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 12:06 pm to
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Holy Copeman and Fake Propaganda


I defer to the expert on fake propaganda. He is correct.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Yet you called people liars when they referred to the past.


Pretty sure I called you a liar in the present, multiple times.
Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 12:15 pm to
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As usual you provide partial statements, omitting context, in order to distort what was said.



Incorrect, even providing the whole quote doesn't change the fact he said "may have" Which sounds like bull shite fan fiction since the Red Cross helped with the body exchanges. Ukraine is probably claiming all those foreign mercenaries that are dead are Russians

"The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has been involved in facilitating and verifying body exchanges between Russia and Ukraine. The ICRC acts as a neutral intermediary, assisting in the repatriation of deceased soldiers' bodies as part of humanitarian efforts during the conflict. For instance, in a 2024 exchange, ICRC forensic scientists conducted spot checks on bodies at the border to ensure proper handling during the process. The organization has also been acknowledged by Ukrainian authorities for its role in coordinating large-scale exchanges, such as the return of 1,212 Ukrainian soldiers' remains in June 2025. The ICRC’s involvement includes ensuring that the process adheres to international humanitarian standards"




Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 12:36 pm to
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 cypher


You are melting about the body exchanges. This is what happens when Ukraine and the NAFO Trolls can no longer rely on their made up fan fiction stories.


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