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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:48 am to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:48 am to Coeur du Tigre
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A Russian military doctor has spoken frankly in an interview about the atrocious state of Russian military medicine and the lack of medical training given to soldiers. Most of the wounded die, he says, and doctors themselves are treated as 'slaves' by the Russian military.
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"Out of nine wounded by a shell explosion, only two slightly wounded survive, and even then with the risk of serious complications. If a wounded person gets to a hospital, he can count on qualified care. But most do not survive to get to the hospital."
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This, he says, is why Russian casualties are so high. In Afghanistan, for every man killed four wounded men survived. "Today I would dare to assume that for every wounded person who survives, there are at least two killed and died of wounds."
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[ former, now fired for 'corruption', Defense Minister Anatoly] Serdyukov's reforms were intended to professionalise the army and reduce it in size. While some of these objectives were achieved, Alexander says that "the medical component of the armed forces was recognized as excessive and was cut," decimating the military medical service.
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"Under Serdyukov, hospitals were liquidated en masse, the system of sanatorium and resort treatment was almost completely destroyed, and the system of personnel training was cut." This turned out to have very negative consequences in the current war, as Alexander notes.
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"Military medicine is something that can be quickly destroyed, and it takes 10-15 years to restore. The problem is aggravated by the fact that civilian medicine has also been optimised to the point of incapacity, which the pandemic has demonstrated to us in all its glory."
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As a result of all of these issues, battlefield mortality is very high. Alexander gives the example of a shell which explodes and strikes ten men with shrapnel, injuring all of them.
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One man dies immediately. Two more will die within half an hour from unsurvivable wounds. Three could be saved if given prompt treatment within an hour. This usually isn't possible due to the inability to carry out evacuations by helicopter.
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Of the five remaining, three have received immobilising injuries. They could be saved if given first aid by their comrades and evacuated within 4-5 hours. However, because of the constant threat of drones a timely evacuation is often not possible. So the immobilised die too.
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"Today, seriously wounded soldiers from assault units have no chance at all. They die in the grey zone, many commit suicide to get rid of suffering.
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"Out of nine wounded by a shell explosion, only two slightly wounded survive, and even then with the risk of serious complications. If a wounded person gets to a hospital, he can count on qualified care. But most do not survive to get to the hospital."
But that Russian MoD equipment though...
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Tourniquets issued to Russian soldiers as part of the standard first aid kit issued by the Russian Ministry of Defence are of such poor quality that they have been dubbed "a good way to die quickly". Soldiers are now being urged to replace them with almost anything else.
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A video showing the tourniquet being tested shows it snapping when used. 'Doctors, you are not alone' has replicated the same problems through independent testing. It concludes, "this is not a combat tourniquet, but a complete mess," affecting all of them, not just one batch.
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"And if you were to pick words, then it's absolute crap. We haven't seen worse tourniquets for a long time, even cheap Chinese ones are usually better."
"The sum of the two videos:
the buckle broke
the strap broke
the "horns" broke
the marking strip has come off."
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The channel urges the MOD and the Russian National Guard to get rid of the tourniquets, identify who was responsible for approving their use, and publicly disclose the requirements for military acceptance of tourniquets.
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It also demands that the manufacturer recalls them all from sale and distribution, and to "Calculate how many tourniquets you have already installed for standard first aid kits, multiply by the probability of their use and understand how many people you have killed."
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'Doctors, you are not alone' is not exaggerating about the impact of tourniquets on casualty figures. The head of the Kalashnikov Center for Tactical Medicine, Artem Katulin, says that a third of amputations during the war have been due to improper tourniquet application.
You almost feel sorry for Russian troops. Almost.
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:55 am to Coeur du Tigre
Ukraine, Russia conduct second prisoner swap under Istanbul deal
by Tim Zadorozhnyy June 10, 2025 5:46 PM
Ukraine and Russia carried out another prisoner exchange on June 10, concluding the second phase of an agreement reached during the most recent round of peace talks in Istanbul, President Volodymyr Zelensky announced.
"We continue the return of our people, as agreed in Istanbul," Zelensky wrote on X, confirming the exchange without immediately disclosing the number of returnees.
"Today marks the first stage of the return of our injured and severely wounded warriors from Russian captivity. All of them require immediate medical attention. This is an important humanitarian act," he added.
The swap marks the second stage of the deal negotiated during the June 2 negotiations in Turkey — the second direct peace dialogue between Kyiv and Moscow since 2022.
While no ceasefire or political breakthrough was achieved, both sessions resulted in key humanitarian agreements, including commitments to exchange prisoners of war (POWs) and the bodies of fallen soldiers.
Alongside the prisoner swap, Moscow pledged to hand over the remains of 6,000 Ukrainian service members. Zelensky said on June 4 that preparations for the body repatriation would begin after the completion of the prisoner exchange.
Tensions briefly flared on June 7, when Russian officials claimed the exchange had failed due to Ukraine's actions. Kyiv rejected the accusation, calling it disinformation.
Russia also released a video showing refrigerators allegedly containing Ukrainian bodies, which Ukrainian officials said was filmed inside Russia and not at an agreed exchange site.
The Kyiv Independent
by Tim Zadorozhnyy June 10, 2025 5:46 PM
Ukraine and Russia carried out another prisoner exchange on June 10, concluding the second phase of an agreement reached during the most recent round of peace talks in Istanbul, President Volodymyr Zelensky announced.
"We continue the return of our people, as agreed in Istanbul," Zelensky wrote on X, confirming the exchange without immediately disclosing the number of returnees.
"Today marks the first stage of the return of our injured and severely wounded warriors from Russian captivity. All of them require immediate medical attention. This is an important humanitarian act," he added.
The swap marks the second stage of the deal negotiated during the June 2 negotiations in Turkey — the second direct peace dialogue between Kyiv and Moscow since 2022.
While no ceasefire or political breakthrough was achieved, both sessions resulted in key humanitarian agreements, including commitments to exchange prisoners of war (POWs) and the bodies of fallen soldiers.
Alongside the prisoner swap, Moscow pledged to hand over the remains of 6,000 Ukrainian service members. Zelensky said on June 4 that preparations for the body repatriation would begin after the completion of the prisoner exchange.
Tensions briefly flared on June 7, when Russian officials claimed the exchange had failed due to Ukraine's actions. Kyiv rejected the accusation, calling it disinformation.
Russia also released a video showing refrigerators allegedly containing Ukrainian bodies, which Ukrainian officials said was filmed inside Russia and not at an agreed exchange site.
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:01 am to Chromdome35
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I don't see much benefit to Russia in constantly hitting civilian targets in cities vs military targets, yet they continue to do it day after day.
And that is different from symbolic strikes on someone's house or something.
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It seems like an expenditure of a lot of expensive missiles for minimal ROI.
I think people want to simplify Russian strikes down to one thing or the other when there is likely a lot of stuff going on with them. Its easy to say "they are launching a ton of stuff every day and sometimes they will miss" or "they are deliberately terrorizing the population of Ukraine with missile strikes" when the reality is that there are almost assuredly cases of both.
We just don't have the context of how much civilian death occurs every day in a war because no war has ever been fought the way this one has before (at least in some ways) and we've never been able to follow a war as closely with as much reporting as we have this one. And that's not me saying I think its just Russia missing targets or that I think its all terrorism, that is me saying "I don't know".
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:02 am to Coeur du Tigre
One of the interesting dichotomies that has emerged from this war is the difference in attitude towards battlefield casualties between Russia and the US.
The US philosophy of getting wounded soldiers to higher-level care as fast as possible and leaving no man behind would have to bolster the general morale of the troops compared to Russia's seeming indifference to wounded troops.
I know Russia has always been this way, so this behavior isn't surprising. I do think it gives the US (and NATO) an advantage over Russia.
I have seen some videos of Ukraine's army making extreme efforts to evacuate wounded soldiers; however, I am not sure how deeply ingrained the US philosophy has become in the Ukrainian military. My sense (valid or not) is that the longer the war has gone, the lower a priority it has become for Ukraine.
The US philosophy of getting wounded soldiers to higher-level care as fast as possible and leaving no man behind would have to bolster the general morale of the troops compared to Russia's seeming indifference to wounded troops.
I know Russia has always been this way, so this behavior isn't surprising. I do think it gives the US (and NATO) an advantage over Russia.
I have seen some videos of Ukraine's army making extreme efforts to evacuate wounded soldiers; however, I am not sure how deeply ingrained the US philosophy has become in the Ukrainian military. My sense (valid or not) is that the longer the war has gone, the lower a priority it has become for Ukraine.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:05 am to cypher
terrorism update ...
A 70-year-old man died in Kupyansk as a result of a FAB-500 strike
On June 10, Russian forces carried out an airstrike on Kupyansk , killing an elderly man and injuring two others.
This was reported by the press service of the Kharkiv region police.
The deceased was 70 years old. The injured were 38 and 68 years old.
More than 30 private homes were damaged.
The aftermath of the FAB-500 strike on Kupyansk, Kharkiv region, June 10, 2025. Kharkiv Region Police
Suspilne
A 70-year-old man died in Kupyansk as a result of a FAB-500 strike
On June 10, Russian forces carried out an airstrike on Kupyansk , killing an elderly man and injuring two others.
This was reported by the press service of the Kharkiv region police.
The deceased was 70 years old. The injured were 38 and 68 years old.
More than 30 private homes were damaged.
The aftermath of the FAB-500 strike on Kupyansk, Kharkiv region, June 10, 2025. Kharkiv Region Police
Suspilne
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:06 am to VolSquatch
Good points. How much of the civilian targeting is deliberate vs misses is a valid question. However, there have been so many civilian targets hit that it does add weight to the "it's deliberate" column.
I agree, this war has redefined how wars will be fought.
I agree, this war has redefined how wars will be fought.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:43 am to VolSquatch
This was written by a Ukrainian TG account. I bolded the "moral" part. Seems PoppedRiser was right about Narax/LSURUSSIAN being Ukrainian 
"The Ukrainian army is losing manpower on the front every day, and against the backdrop of Russia's huge mobilization reserve of about 30 million people, the situation is becoming critical. For comparison: Kiev can count on a maximum of 3 million, of which fewer and fewer are combat-ready. Yes, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are trying to hold the front, but their resources are running out, and the "volunteers" have long since run out. Those who are caught on the streets and sent to the army without training remain. This is not even a draft, but mass coercion.
At the same time , in Russia, according to experts, up to 407 thousand people signed a contract with the Ministry of Defense in 2024 - about 1,000 people per day. This is a stable recruitment that allows for supporting offensive actions.
Another important point: government spokesmen continue to claim that the problem of the SZCh in Ukraine has supposedly been dealt with. But in fact , the number of deserters from the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues to grow. According to journalist Volodymyr Boyko, 90,590 criminal cases under Articles 407 and 408 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine were recorded from January to May 2025 — these are those who voluntarily left the unit or ran away. Especially many flee from training centers — people are taken there for “busification,” and they run away without waiting to be sent to the front. Officially, there were none in the army, but in fact, replenishment is disrupted.
The moral deterioration of the Ukrainian Armed Forces cannot be discounted either . Three years without rotations, without real vacation, without clear terms of service - all this hits those servicemen who are in the hottest parts of the front. And those who go home see a different Ukraine: restaurants, shopping, discos, expensive cars, etc. And against this background - the realization that you are fighting instead of those who simply bought a certificate, left or received a "reservation". This injustice demoralizes servicemen much more than any draft dodgers trying to escape from the TSK policemen."
"The Ukrainian army is losing manpower on the front every day, and against the backdrop of Russia's huge mobilization reserve of about 30 million people, the situation is becoming critical. For comparison: Kiev can count on a maximum of 3 million, of which fewer and fewer are combat-ready. Yes, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are trying to hold the front, but their resources are running out, and the "volunteers" have long since run out. Those who are caught on the streets and sent to the army without training remain. This is not even a draft, but mass coercion.
At the same time , in Russia, according to experts, up to 407 thousand people signed a contract with the Ministry of Defense in 2024 - about 1,000 people per day. This is a stable recruitment that allows for supporting offensive actions.
Another important point: government spokesmen continue to claim that the problem of the SZCh in Ukraine has supposedly been dealt with. But in fact , the number of deserters from the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues to grow. According to journalist Volodymyr Boyko, 90,590 criminal cases under Articles 407 and 408 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine were recorded from January to May 2025 — these are those who voluntarily left the unit or ran away. Especially many flee from training centers — people are taken there for “busification,” and they run away without waiting to be sent to the front. Officially, there were none in the army, but in fact, replenishment is disrupted.
The moral deterioration of the Ukrainian Armed Forces cannot be discounted either . Three years without rotations, without real vacation, without clear terms of service - all this hits those servicemen who are in the hottest parts of the front. And those who go home see a different Ukraine: restaurants, shopping, discos, expensive cars, etc. And against this background - the realization that you are fighting instead of those who simply bought a certificate, left or received a "reservation". This injustice demoralizes servicemen much more than any draft dodgers trying to escape from the TSK policemen."
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:48 am to Chromdome35
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I don't see much benefit to Russia in constantly hitting civilian targets in cities vs military targets, yet they continue to do it day after day.
Ukraine is jamming them and they hit random targets sometimes civilian. Which is good for Ukraine. They would much rather have a civilian killed than a military asset lost
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:52 am to LSURussian
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I don't see much benefit to Russia in constantly hitting civilian targets
Creating terror on the civilian population.
The Germans had the Brit RAF on the ropes when they were bombing the air fields and ground equipment. Then they switched to revenge bombing of London. That gave the RAF a reprieve.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 11:00 am to John Barron
Posted on 6/10/25 at 11:24 am to John Barron
Grok: Tell me about the @geromanAT account
The @GeromanAT account is a social media presence primarily active on X, with a significant following of around 285,000 as of mid-2025. The account is run by an individual named Roman, who claims to be of German-Austrian descent and resides in Austria. His bio describes him as "trying to understand that crazy world - and the universe if there is time left," and he often solicits support via Patreon and other donation platforms. Roman has been active on X since July 2015, amassing over 500,000 posts, which averages to a high volume of daily activity, often focusing on military and geopolitical developments, particularly the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
Roman positions himself as a commentator on global affairs, with a clear pro-Russia perspective. He frequently shares updates on military operations, often highlighting Russian advances or Ukrainian losses, and critiques Western narratives, particularly those of NATO and the EU. For example, he has posted about Ukrainian military setbacks, Russian control of strategic locations, and criticized Western sanctions or media portrayals. His posts sometimes include provocative or speculative claims, like supporting hypothetical Mexican military operations in former territories or alleging Ukrainian leadership avoids repatriating fallen soldiers to dodge compensation. He’s also shared content accusing the EU of censoring journalists critical of its stance on Ukraine and Gaza.
Critics, notably in sources like Vatnik Soup, label Roman a pro-Kremlin propagandist, part of a trio of influential accounts alongside others like @200_zoka
and @Trollstoy88. They allege he spreads disinformation, lacks expertise, and monetizes his social media presence, reportedly earning modest sums (around $200/month) for his efforts. He’s been accused of doxxing errors, like sharing incorrect personal information about opponents, and has a contentious relationship with pro-Ukraine groups like NAFO, whom he calls “Nazis.” Despite his volume of posts, detractors argue his analysis lacks depth, relying on quantity over quality.
Roman’s account has faced scrutiny and temporary suspensions, with some on X speculating it was due to his controversial takes, though supporters claim it’s censorship. He also maintains a Telegram channel with about 15,000 subscribers and has a backup X account, @WarfareBackup. His content often blends military updates with anti-Western sentiment, appealing to an audience skeptical of mainstream narratives. However, his claims should be approached cautiously, as they often lack independent verification and align closely with Russian state messaging.
The @GeromanAT account is a social media presence primarily active on X, with a significant following of around 285,000 as of mid-2025. The account is run by an individual named Roman, who claims to be of German-Austrian descent and resides in Austria. His bio describes him as "trying to understand that crazy world - and the universe if there is time left," and he often solicits support via Patreon and other donation platforms. Roman has been active on X since July 2015, amassing over 500,000 posts, which averages to a high volume of daily activity, often focusing on military and geopolitical developments, particularly the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
Roman positions himself as a commentator on global affairs, with a clear pro-Russia perspective. He frequently shares updates on military operations, often highlighting Russian advances or Ukrainian losses, and critiques Western narratives, particularly those of NATO and the EU. For example, he has posted about Ukrainian military setbacks, Russian control of strategic locations, and criticized Western sanctions or media portrayals. His posts sometimes include provocative or speculative claims, like supporting hypothetical Mexican military operations in former territories or alleging Ukrainian leadership avoids repatriating fallen soldiers to dodge compensation. He’s also shared content accusing the EU of censoring journalists critical of its stance on Ukraine and Gaza.
Critics, notably in sources like Vatnik Soup, label Roman a pro-Kremlin propagandist, part of a trio of influential accounts alongside others like @200_zoka
and @Trollstoy88. They allege he spreads disinformation, lacks expertise, and monetizes his social media presence, reportedly earning modest sums (around $200/month) for his efforts. He’s been accused of doxxing errors, like sharing incorrect personal information about opponents, and has a contentious relationship with pro-Ukraine groups like NAFO, whom he calls “Nazis.” Despite his volume of posts, detractors argue his analysis lacks depth, relying on quantity over quality.
Roman’s account has faced scrutiny and temporary suspensions, with some on X speculating it was due to his controversial takes, though supporters claim it’s censorship. He also maintains a Telegram channel with about 15,000 subscribers and has a backup X account, @WarfareBackup. His content often blends military updates with anti-Western sentiment, appealing to an audience skeptical of mainstream narratives. However, his claims should be approached cautiously, as they often lack independent verification and align closely with Russian state messaging.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 11:26 am to John Barron
In today’s #vatniksoup, I’ll introduce an American social media grifter and supplements salesman, Scottson “Ayden” Sterritt (@squatsons). He’s best-known for his extensive experience in geopolitics, bodybuilding and military strategy, and for his strong support for Russia.
Before starting to simp for Putin, Scottson was involved in the bodybuilding scene. His vast knowledge on geopolitics and military issues stems from his education at the prestigious Cibola High School.
Apparently Sterritt’s main job at the moment is to tweet about the Russo-Ukrainian War. He averages about 60 tweets per day, and most, if not all, are related to the conflict.
Can't make this shite up folks.
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Before starting to simp for Putin, Scottson was involved in the bodybuilding scene. His vast knowledge on geopolitics and military issues stems from his education at the prestigious Cibola High School.
Apparently Sterritt’s main job at the moment is to tweet about the Russo-Ukrainian War. He averages about 60 tweets per day, and most, if not all, are related to the conflict.
Can't make this shite up folks.
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 11:47 am to VolSquatch
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Russia relied heavily (totally) on the Shahed drones last night, which are pretty much just motorized projectiles without precise targeting. They're not surgically striking anything.
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they're hitting schools, apartments, maternity wards...
So by your own definition they aren't hitting those on purpose necessarily.
Which is strange because you've absolutely said they are doing it on purpose in the past.
With guided missiles? Yes.
With the Shaheds, which are modern equivalent of Hitler's buzz bombs? They fire them at an area and they fall where they fall. Though they are firing them at civilian areas in the first place, so... if a gang member fires shots blindly into a crowd of people, what specifically do you characterize that one as?
Posted on 6/10/25 at 11:50 am to Chromdome35
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How can you tell who downvoted me? Might have been you for all I know.
I did not downvote either of you, and tried to explain my concern with the development.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 11:52 am to ticklechain
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Been wondering about that also. All I can figure is that these buildings they are hitting have some sort of military presence in them. Whether it be troops, ammo storage, drone assembly, etc, etc. I know they hit all kinds of buildings, but it just doesn't make sense to hit an civilian apt building that has no strategic importance. I would imagine over the past three years the ukes have had to get sneaky about where they are keeping stuff
It's as much to terrify soyboys and women in Euro and US cities that they could be targets too.
As a Trump voter I note that the scenes of morgue reefer trailers on TV in NYC changed his entire tune on Covid which then enable some states to have extensive long running lockdowns
Posted on 6/10/25 at 11:56 am to Lee B
GABs or Glide bombs just have wings on them so they can be lobbed in a direction from behind the lines at a high altitude. These are not JDAMs
Posted on 6/10/25 at 11:59 am to VolSquatch
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Chinese war with us almost a fricking certainly.
Honestly as long as Xi and people like him keep running the country, I'm not really worried about war with China. He is obviously not a good guy, but he is pragmatic and far more focused on economics than militarism. The US is absolutely key to their economy.
Exactly.
And this was all planned this way from the start... the start being the early 70s when Kissinger convinced Nixon to go to China and exploit their natural hatred of Russia to pull them out of the USSR orbit and exploit their economic desperation to get them dependent on the West.
It took 20 years for the factories to be built and for it to pay off for them (in the early 90s, China thought it would be bankrupt in mere years) but when it kicked in, it was on turbo... and what does any entity with billions or trillions of money suddenly do with it? Invest in the US... it's the safest place to stash your cash (or was until very recently).
And it almost killed Communism for them... they'd lost that being the center of anything and were just kind of like Communists in name... until Xi took power, and he reasserted the CCP as the center of life and the sun that rises in the morning... and people like Jack Ma got a state-sponsored 6 month vacation at a re-education camp and came back newly devoted to the party.
But who after Xi? He's exiled or killed anybody who could be a successor...
The Han Chinese ethnicity also faces the same demographic collapse that the Russian ethnicity does... though they seem to have centered on AI and automated factories being their answer to a dwindling workforce.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 12:04 pm to Chromdome35
Geroman is legit, Barron had him checked out. Straighten Grok out.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 12:07 pm to LSURussian
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I’ve learned that no one in the Middle East is safe.
It’s a bloody region.
And it has been that way for 5,000 years..
The Ottoman Empire chilled it out for roughly 1000 years (right on up to the Baltic Sea through Eastern Europe)... by being the unmerciful bloodiest if anybody got out of line.
That ended with WWI, and the current shitshow is the unwinding of the British and French reallotments of territory, which put minority groups in power over their enemies that outnumbered them so the only way those regimes stayed in power was to play nice with the oil reserves in exchange for military help.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 12:12 pm to Chromdome35
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Do you know if Russia has hit any of the Ukrainian Government buildings in Kyiv or Zelensky's official residence?
One would think those would be priority targets for the sake of symbology.
If they haven't, I wonder why they haven't? Are they concerned about reciprocal attacks on the Kremlin?
I think they've been hitting official government buildings from the start... but the Ukrainian government moved out of those buildings as soon as the war began.
I think Zelensky's official residence was always an apartment, not a palace or house of some sort, but that could've been incorrect info posted around.
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