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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/5/25 at 3:34 am to
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 3:34 am to
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Impressive JB. More than 85 posts over the course of ~16 hours, almost all about the Russo-Ukrainian war.


"The dedication that kid shows."



Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 3:46 am to
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You have been posting for three years that Russia's economy is on the verge of collapse. Newsflash: Give it up. It ain't going to happen. The sanctions have not worked. Europe has actually financed their war effort with their continued purchases. Russia is out producing the west by a 4:1 ratio. Secreatary of Nato's words: not mine.Their army is growing. They are receiving massive imports of materials from China and other nations. They are still selling oil. Europe purchased more from Russia last year in terms of dollars than they supplied to Ukraine.


The miserables still gonna cope. They'll be in denial till CNN tells them there is no hope and Ukros are destroyed. Then Jake Tapper will write a follow up book on how there were signs Ukraine was a shithole with no chance of winning.
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 4:25 am to
New development today.
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U.S. President Donald Trump's administration is redirecting anti-drone technology earmarked for Ukraine to its own troops based in the Middle East, the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reported on June 4.




https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-redirecting-anti-drone-024230007.html

America First, bitches.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4332 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 4:28 am to
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U.S. President Donald Trump has asked the Senate to delay voting on a bipartisan Russia sanctions bill, Republican Senator Roger Wicker said on June 4.

"If I think I'm close to getting a deal, I don't want to screw it up by doing that," he said on May 28, but added he is prepared to act if Moscow stalls further.


TACO again. Just pitiful.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 4:57 am to
Ukraine strikes Russian missile base in Bryansk Oblast, damages Iskander launchers, Ukrainian military says

by Tim Zadorozhnyy June 5, 2025 12:35 PM

Ukrainian forces launched a missile strike on June 5 targeting a concentration of Russian missile troops near the city of Klintsy in Russia’s Bryansk Oblast, the General Staff of Ukraine’s Armed Forces reported.

The strike reportedly destroyed one Iskander missile launcher and seriously damaged two others. The targeted unit, part of Russia’s 26th Missile Brigade, had attempted to fire on Ukrainian territory — likely aiming at Kyiv — before it was hit, according to the military.

"Thanks to effective reconnaissance and the coordinated efforts of the Armed Forces and the Security Service of Ukraine, the targets were successfully hit," the General Staff said.

The agency added that there were no civilian casualties, and assessments of Russian losses are ongoing.

The Iskander is a short-range ballistic missile system used by Russia for precision strikes against military and infrastructure targets.

With a range of up to 500 kilometers (some 311 miles) and the ability to carry conventional or nuclear warheads, the system remains a key component of Russia's tactical missile forces.

The Kyiv Independent
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 5:04 am to
Whole family of fire station chief killed in Russian drone attack on Pryluky

05.06.2025 10:40

In Pryluky, Chernihiv region, on the night of June 5, a Russian drone hit a family home of a local fire station chief, killing his wife, a one-year-old son, and a daughter, who served as a patrol police officer.

This was reported by the Minister of Internal Affairs, Ihor Klymenko, Ukrinform saw.

At the time of the strike, the head of family was alongside other rescuers fighting fire at other sites of Russian drone attacks overnight Thursday.

In total, five people were killed and six more were wounded in town this night.

Ukrinform

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Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 5:25 am to
Anton Gerashchenko
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US administration redirected advanced anti-drone fuzes – originally meant for Ukraine – to U.S. forces in the Middle East, The Wall Street Journal reported.

Reportedly, this was done on the orders of US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth. The Pentagon informed Congress of this decision last week, calling it urgent.

The fuzes, part of the Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System (APKWS), were designed to counter drone attacks at a lower cost than air-to-air missiles and are one of the most important components of the APKWS, as they detonates the warhead when the missile approaches the drone.

They were initially procured by the Biden administration to defend Ukraine against Russia’s massive drone campaign, which has involved over 20,000 drones in 2025 alone.

The APKWS transformed the 70 mm Hydra unguided aircraft missile into a cheap, high-precision missile weapon. The Vampire (Vehicle-Agnostic Modular Palletized ISR Rocket Equipment) missile system was created based on this missile. These systems were developed specifically for Ukraine to detect and intercept enemy drones, including Iranian Shahed-136 drones, which are called "Geran-2" in Russia.



Trump administration redirecting anti-drone tech from Ukraine to US forces in Middle East, WSJ reports
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 5:45 am
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 5:28 am to
ISW Update June 4 2025

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Key Takeaways:

The Kremlin is fixating on recent train derailments in Russia in order to further long-standing Kremlin narratives claiming that Ukraine is an illegitimate negotiating partner that is uninterested in peace, likely to distract the broader information space from recent Kremlin officials' statements about Russia's own disinterest in a negotiated settlement.

Putin also used his June 4 phone call with Trump to further falsely portray Ukraine as an illegitimate negotiating partner that is uninterested in peace.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky continues to express Ukraine's willingness to negotiate with Russia to establish a just and lasting peace.

Ukrainian and Western officials and open-source analysts continue to clarify the battlefield damage resulting from Ukraine's "Operation Spider's Web" long-range drone strike series against Russian air bases on June 1.

Ukrainian special services reportedly used artificial intelligence (AI) to direct drones during Operation Spider's Web.

Ukraine’s Western allies continue to provide military aid to Ukraine.

Ukrainian forces recently advanced near Pokrovsk. Russian forces recently advanced in Sumy Oblast and near Toretsk.


Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 5:54 am to
Random tweets

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Russian forces captured 3 more villages in Sumy Oblast and are now within 18km of the city.

LINK

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Trump thought Ukraine's surprise drone attack over the weekend was strong and badass sources who discussed it with him tell Axios.

LINK

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Ukraine will shut down mobile communications to combat drones, said communications company commander Andrii Nemyrovskyi.

"Ukrainians should be prepared for temporary disruptions in communications for the sake of security during attacks by Russian drones," he said.

LINK

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Kim Jong-un met with Russia’s Security Council head Shoigu.

Kim pledged unconditional support for Russia in the Ukraine war.

LINK

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 6:58 am to
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Why shouldn't American companies benefit from the increased spending? There is no danger from letting them compete for those contracts.


I totally agree and have no problem with American companies selling Europe weapons.
As long as Europe does invest/increase spending in actual defense and not some climate change bullshite or social welfare.

I also support America reducing it's footprint in Europe drastically. Make the Europeans increase their own force strength with their own troops.

Wean them off of American welfare. Give them some tough love. Tell them to get their shite together regarding their own defense or they are on their own.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 7:10 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:56 am to
Yuriy might want to stay away from windows for a while...

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Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:20 am to
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I also support America reducing it's footprint in Europe drastically. Make the Europeans increase their own force strength with their own troops.

Wean them off of American welfare. Give them some tough love. Tell them to get their shite together regarding their own defense or they are on their own.


Even outside of the fact that Europe should be able to defend themselves, its just untenable for the US to continue subsidizing other countries like it has. For defense and for a lot of other things too.

Europe needs to realize that its actually a huge security risk for them to rely on us, given how drastically our elections have begun to swing. If the sequence of Obama -> Trump -> Biden -> Trump were a roller coaster, you'd be puking your brains out. Even just 4 years of someone not committed to helping Europe puts them behind given substantial lead times on weapons and technology.

Thankfully for us (and them, and the world in general) they are getting better.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:35 am to
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Even outside of the fact that Europe should be able to defend themselves


But here is the rub, for centuries the nations of Europe fought each other. European wars were happening on a regular basis.

The creation of NATO and the threat from Russia gradually got most of Europe into the same alliance.

And yes aa a group they should be able to defend themselves to a point. They don’t have the nuclear Arsenal but they should be able yo man up and put up a stiff defense as Ukraine did, but they need to all stay under the same umbrella.

Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
15673 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:06 am to
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The creation of NATO and the threat from Russia gradually got most of Europe into the same alliance.


The biggest feat of NATO was that it kept European nations from fighting each other. That is part of being in NATO.

Let's face it the part to thwart Russia was always the USA. West Germany wasn't a charter member and had no military until it joined NATO. Thus NATO was actually all about stopping war between European nations who signed on.

Russia was a partner with NATO, just like Finland, Sweden and Switzerland were but when Putin couldn't get his way and not have to meet milestones for membership, he severed ties.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 9:14 am
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:09 am to
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But here is the rub, for centuries the nations of Europe fought each other. European wars were happening on a regular basis.

The creation of NATO and the threat from Russia gradually got most of Europe into the same alliance.


You cant live off the past forever. Do we reasonably expect western Europe to go up in smoke again and start fighting each other? I would be shocked if that happens in mine or my kids lifetimes. Or my grandkids for that matter.

So if that isn't a realistic threat, they are able to work as a bloc to focus on outside threats (so essentially just Russia for now). NATO was partly created to stop its members from fighting each other as well, which is a point many forget.

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And yes aa a group they should be able to defend themselves to a point. They don’t have the nuclear Arsenal but they should be able yo man up and put up a stiff defense as Ukraine did, but they need to all stay under the same umbrella.



I'm not sure if you specifically have said this, but we hear over and over in here about how Russia is a paper tiger on the nuclear front, they dont have nearly as many as they say they do and most of the ones they do have won't even work if it came down to that... ok, if that is true, The UK and France have something like 450-500 nukes combined. And if I were a betting man I'd say all of them work. That is plenty enough as a nuclear deterrent even without the US arsenal.

And Europe defending themselves doesn't mean we have to cut off ties and not be allies anymore. If Russia invades a NATO country I hope we turn them to glass. But if Europe CAN defend themselves AND they have the US as more of an equal ally, China and Russia can both get fricked if they try anything.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 9:12 am
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8164 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:24 am to
Is there a comprehensive account yet of the actual numbers of planes damanged?

I've seen so many confilicting reports its difficult to get an accurate picture.

I'm on the road so I haven't been able to follow it very closely. Also, any update on the impact of the Kerch bridge strike?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:43 am to
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Is there a comprehensive account yet of the actual numbers of planes damanged?


Not that I know of.

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Also, any update on the impact of the Kerch bridge strike?


The roadway is reported to be open. I'm not sure about the railway.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:55 am to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted by cypher
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