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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:06 am to John Barron
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:06 am to John Barron
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:22 am to John Barron
Trump-Aligned General Warns #Ukraine? Strike Risks Nuclear Escalation
Before yesterday's Trump’s call with Putin, retired U.S. Air Force General Blaine Holt told Newsmax the Ukrainian drone attack on Russian airbases marked a serious escalation. He said the strike targeted Russia’s strategic bombers covered by the New START treaty and could not have been executed without Western intelligence support.
Holt claims that Russia is now openly aiming missiles at Western capitals, describing the situation as dangerously unstable and urging Trump to intervene diplomatically."
Before yesterday's Trump’s call with Putin, retired U.S. Air Force General Blaine Holt told Newsmax the Ukrainian drone attack on Russian airbases marked a serious escalation. He said the strike targeted Russia’s strategic bombers covered by the New START treaty and could not have been executed without Western intelligence support.
Holt claims that Russia is now openly aiming missiles at Western capitals, describing the situation as dangerously unstable and urging Trump to intervene diplomatically."
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:30 am to VolSquatch
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You cant live off the past forever. Do we reasonably expect western Europe to go up in smoke again and start fighting each other? I would be shocked if that happens in mine or my kids lifetimes. Or my grandkids for that matter.
Hopefully we do not, but 80 years or so ago they were all fighting. That was in my dad’s generation so it could happen again.
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I'm not sure if you specifically have said this, but we hear over and over in here about how Russia is a paper tiger on the nuclear front, they dont have nearly as many as they say they do and most of the ones they do have won't even work if it came down to that... ok, if that is true, The UK and France have something like 450-500 nukes combined. And if I were a betting man I'd say all of them work. That is plenty enough as a nuclear deterrent even without the US arsenal.
I don’t discount Russia’s nuclear threat. If one works that’s one too many, If your figured in UK and France are correct, and I have no reason to think they aren’t, I believe that to be a huge deterrent. They need to work together.
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And Europe defending themselves doesn't mean we have to cut off ties and not be allies anymore. If Russia invades a NATO country I hope we turn them to glass. But if Europe CAN defend themselves AND they have the US as more of an equal ally, China and Russia can both get fricked if they try anything.
Yes snd Trump has been pushing for this all along.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:40 am to John Barron
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:44 am to John Barron
What's Putin gonna do? Invade Ukraine? I don't think he would be so stupid.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:45 am to Chromdome35
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Is there a comprehensive account yet of the actual numbers of planes damanged?
What is interesting about the stupidity of the Russians is that tires burn really hot. It has long been common practice, at least in SW Louisiana, for marsh ranchers to carry a couple of old tires in their pickups. When they spot a cow who died in a pasture, they throw a couple of tires and some diesel on it. This will kill any and all germs in and around the cow.
Any aluminum and all plastics and rubber will be melted/burned to a vapor from tires on fire
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:49 am to dagrippa
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What's Putin gonna do? Invade Ukraine? I don't think he would be so stupid.
He'll drone a bunch of apartment building and say it's Ukraine's fault.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:01 am to Auburn1968
[quote] He'll drone a bunch of apartment building and say it's Ukraine's fault.[/quote
When Russia launched their Special Operation was a major escalation. Short of using nukes there isn’t a whole lot more Russia can do.
I do not believe any reasonable person believes that launching attacks against the very planes that are attacking and bombing your homeland is unreasonable or some kind of escalation of a war you did not start in the first place.
When Russia launched their Special Operation was a major escalation. Short of using nukes there isn’t a whole lot more Russia can do.
I do not believe any reasonable person believes that launching attacks against the very planes that are attacking and bombing your homeland is unreasonable or some kind of escalation of a war you did not start in the first place.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:12 am to Obtuse1
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Impressive JB. More than 85 posts over the course of ~16 hours, almost all about the Russo-Ukrainian war.
He gets paid by the number of posts, but this is a small audience so he has to work extra hard spamming Russian propaganda.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:22 am to John Barron
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Very Good Points Made
If you don't know anything about history...
and we covered this all here a year or so ago, before you popped up.
Did Cuba not have its military alliance with the U.S.S.R.? It did.
Kennedy kind of screwed up with the Cuban Missile Crisis.
The US put nukes in Turkey and Italy. The USSR was pissed about that BUT they did not go public with it...
When the USSR was going to station nuclear missiles in Cuba (I'm not sure if they were ever even deployed, but just on their way), Kennedy made it a public freakout and made the world have a heart attack.
So what went on behind the scenes is that Krushev cut a deal to have the US remove the nukes from Turkey and Italy in return for no Soviet nukes in Cuba. But he didn't publicize that, either... nobody knew anything about any of that until around 1991 when a lot of stuff on both sides was declassified.
So, Krushev "won" the Cuban Missile Crisis... but nobody knew it, and it was his downfall in Russia, because it made him seem weak to other party members vying for power... though the fact that he was able to enjoy a nice quiet retirement points out that the big powers that be had his back and appreciated it.
Kennedy, for his part, apparently wrote that he regretted going public with the entire thing and causing some freak out suicides around the world. He could've gotten the same results in secret and not have done as much damage to a lot of things... but it made him look "tough."
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:26 am to PoppedRiser
Who was it that said personal insults are the mark of not having a good argument in this thread... I know it wasn't you, obviously.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:33 am to Auburn1968
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He gets paid by the number of posts, but this is a small audience so he has to work extra hard spamming Russian propaganda.
Obviously this is a quantity thing, not a quality one
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:33 am to Lee B
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:42 am to Auburn1968
Cliff notes? How many destroyed?
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:42 am to Lee B
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:59 am to VolSquatch
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Cliff notes? How many destroyed?
It's BS. He starts out the Video saying it might be higher than 41 planes destroyed
Then shows Video that has already been debunked. No drones seen exploding not to mention it is out of service A50s with no engines on the planes
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 12:40 pm to John Barron
Posted on 6/5/25 at 12:47 pm to John Barron
it's weird that the video from the Russian soldier that solovyov wants put to death shows all the black smoke and burning. Why so much fuel in junk aircraft?
Posted on 6/5/25 at 12:59 pm to CitizenK
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Let's face it the part to thwart Russia was always the USA. West Germany wasn't a charter member and had no military until it joined NATO. Thus NATO was actually all about stopping war between European nations who signed on.
Umm... respectfully, NO!
NATO was to unify Europe as human shields against the westward march of the Soviet Union. Sure, the pitch was that they all became security partners and no longer needed to fight each other over that reason (and Globalism took away the incentive to seize territory for resources by making it cheaper to trade for them)... but who did it ultimately benefit? The US... we couldn't ignore their Wars any longer, sure... but we didn't want the USSR swallowing the entire continent and sitting on the Western shore or Europe. And considering that internally every European nation already have avid Communists vying for power, by subsidizing the continent's security we allowed them to institute generous Social spending and castrate the appeal of Communism as a cure to those problems.
So you may be right about it being our priority, but it is also chiefly WHY we set up NATO... we needed Europe unified for our purposes. And the idea's origin goes back exactly to Stalingrad, when we watched Russian peasants march into battle in great numbers with little chance of survival, and we realized "crap... these people are like a collectivist cult or something, like the Japanese. This is going to be a problem for us in one way or another after this is done."
If we screwed one giant thing up, it's that we did not institute the same generous Social spending here, for whatever reasons. That created the situation where once the Iron Curtain fell American workers instantly felt that they'd been shafted when the great common boogie man vanished into thin air. America in the mid and late 70s was in an economic recession, but Reagan came along and reminded people of the Red Scare - and framed it as a moral fight we should prioritize - and people forgot it, instantly... until the Iron Curtain fell and the country was instantly pissed at George W. Bush.
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