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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/20/25 at 8:41 pm to
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 8:41 pm to
The amount of Russian duck sucking pussies on this thread is disturbing, but noted, and will be dealt with soon enough. Enjoy it while you can you little spineless women. You deserve none of the freedom you have
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 9:27 pm to
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the tactical nukes would have arrived in Ukraine and Poland in December, before Trump was sworn in. Apparently, the orbs are planning on dealing with the Russians



Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 9:29 pm to
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and will be dealt with soon enough. Enjoy it while you can you little spineless women. 



Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:12 am to
Ukrainian soldiers realized they have been brainwashed by Zelensky and ask for forgiveness on Easter Sunday

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Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:22 am to
Do you jerk off to Putin's portrait on your wall?
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:38 am to
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Russian authorities announced the closure of the Kerch Bridge for 48-hours starting at 0400 on May 8th through 0400 on May 10th book-ends this year's Muscovian Victory Day on May 9th.





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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:51 am to
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According to the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, by the morning of April 20, the Russian army had lost more than 941,000 soldiers in the full-scale war against Ukraine.

Over the past 24 hours, another 950 Russian soldiers were eliminated.

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You can tell the ceasefire worked because they lost less than 1,000 troops for once.

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Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:52 am to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:03 am to
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Over the past 24 hours, another 950 Russian soldiers were eliminated.


More Lies and propaganda. It's funny they actually used the number of dead Ukrainian soldiers they just received


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Posted on 4/21/25 at 6:04 am to
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 6:45 am to
Random tweets

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An initiative group of Russians in Washington plans to hold the first "Immortal Regiment" march in recent years on May 3 in the center of the U.S. capital.

The event is dedicated to the 80th anniversary of the end of the "Great Patriotic War."

This is stated in a leaflet distributed by the organizers among Russian-speaking groups in the United States.

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BAE Systems plans to ramp up 155mm artillery shell production by 16 times compared to two years ago.

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Another accident with an oil tanker has occurred in russia, leading to a spill of oil products in the Tatar Strait off the coast of Sakhalin, the Center for Public Affairs reports.

Three months ago, a similar accident with sea pollution occurred off the coast of Kamchatka. And the consequences of the accident that led to the sinking of two tankers in the Kerch Strait last December have not been overcome by the russian authorities to this day.

All of this is due to the inability of the russian state to ensure proper maintenance of ships in the face of the huge costs of the war against Ukraine and sanctions.

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Kremlin: We welcome U.S. statements ruling out Ukraine’s NATO membership.

Ukraine joining NATO is a direct threat to Russia’s national interests and remains a core cause of the conflict

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Russians are using quad bikes for assaults on Ukrainian positions, as they allow for quick dismounts and the ability to hide in crevices.

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The Russian Ministry of Defense announced the end of the "Easter truce," which it itself failed to follow. In its statement, Russia accused Ukraine of allegedly violating the ceasefire by carrying out over 4,900 attacks using artillery and drones.

On the morning of April 21, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, citing a report from Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces Oleksandr Syrskyi, noted that enemy forces violated the ceasefire promise 2,935 times. Additionally, the enemy launched missile and drone attacks on Ukraine, affecting several regions across the country.

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Trump awaits response from Ukraine regarding recognition of Crimea as Russian and refusal to join NATO.

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Students of vocational and technical educational institutions after the age of 25 will no longer have the right to deferment from conscription, the bill states.

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According to the Wall Street Journal, the U.S. proposed that Ukraine forgo joining NATO and declare a neutral zone around the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.

The United States is currently awaiting Ukraine's response at a meeting of U.S., Ukrainian, and European officials in London later this week. If the positions of the three parties align, the proposals may be conveyed to Moscow.

Still needs some type of security guarantees IMO

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In a post earlier on Truth Social, U.S. President Donald J. Trump states that he hopes Russia and Ukraine will “MAKE A DEAL THIS WEEK” before claiming that both will then start to do “BIG BUSINESS” with the United States.

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During a meeting in Paris on April 17, the US delegation handed over a secret document with Trump's plan for war to Ukraine, — The Wall Street Journal.

The US proposes a ceasefire along the current contact lines. It also excludes Ukraine's membership in NATO, and proposes to make the area around the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant a neutral zone that could be under US control.

At the same time, the plan does not recognize that russia has the legal right to control the four occupied regions of Ukraine, although it does not demand that russian troops leave these territories. The United States also does not propose to reduce the Ukrainian army and does not oppose Western military support for Kyiv or the deployment of European troops in Ukraine.

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The Trump Administration this week is awaiting a response by Ukraine to a confidential document shared with senior Ukrainian and European officials during last Thursday’s meeting in Paris, attended by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, which detailed a potential ceasefire agreement and concessions to end the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The documents is said to have included a number of concessions that would need to be accepted by Ukraine, including U.S. recognition of Crimea as a territory of Russia, an end to Ukraine’s membership ambitions in NATO, as well as the possible establishment of a “neutral zone” protected by U.S. troops around the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant in Southeastern Ukraine.

One last summary on it

Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 7:35 am to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:38 am to
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Another accident with an oil tanker has occurred in russia, leading to a spill of oil products in the Tatar Strait off the coast of Sakhalin, the Center for Public Affairs reports.

Three months ago, a similar accident with sea pollution occurred off the coast of Kamchatka. And the consequences of the accident that led to the sinking of two tankers in the Kerch Strait last December have not been overcome by the russian authorities to this day.



The photo in the Twatter link is of a small product tanker and likely not correct.

The spill in February was a small amount fuel spilled from a Chinese dry bulk carrier which went aground.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:41 am to
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According to the Wall Street Journal, the U.S. proposed that Ukraine forgo joining NATO


This is really a non factor. NATO isn’t going to offer Ukraine a place in NATO. They didn’t when all the other Eastern European nations got in. I don’t think they ever were.

Besides if twenty years from now NATO changed their minds, Ukraine could change theirs. Russia would do what? Start WWIII?

Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:44 am to
Without knowing how many people Russia is recovering on its own (which is usually the case for most of the casualties when its an advancing army) the numbers are pretty meaningless.

That said, as some in this thread like to point out when it helps their argument, Russia isn't making huge gains. 10-1 or 20-1 exchange ratios when not that much ground is being gained by the advancing force seems like its not good.

I don't believe getting caught up in the casualty figures is a smart endeavor because both sides have cause to lie about it and its hard to get an accurate figure during an active war even if they were telling the truth. Then you have to assess the "cost" of a casualty weighted by how impactful each one (or each 1,000) is for each side. 1 casualty for Ukraine hurts them more than 1 casualty for Russia, but what is the exact difference? And you can't really assess that accurately without knowing exactly how many men each side COULD realistically use in the conflict at 100% capacity. And given how each side is at a different stage in the recruitment process (Russia is still using volunteers and conscripts while Ukraine is pulling people off the street) it makes that calculation even more difficult.

In any case we are now hearing tidbits of the framework of what an eventual peace will look like, barring huge events happening that swing the pendulum of the war one way or the other. Official recognition of territory appears to be a priority for Russia and is likely happening in the future, just as I said weeks ago.

Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:38 am to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:47 am to
Have an upvote

Very good summation of the situation.

Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:01 am to
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That said, as some in this thread like to point out when it helps their argument, Russia isn't making huge gains. 10-1 or 20-1 exchange ratios when not that much ground is being gained by the advancing force seems like its not good.


That is why I don't give much credence to the advancing army counter argument. Are some dead Russian Soldiers not being recovered by Ukraine? Sure, but the amount is likely minimial considering the small territorial gains in a War of attrition. I certainly don't pay attention to the Ukraine Ministry of Defense reporting that 1000 Russians have been killed in the last 24 hours
Posted by dagrippa
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:47 am to
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I certainly don't pay attention


A propagandist dismissing propaganda.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:26 am to
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