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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:28 pm to doubleb
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:28 pm to doubleb
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People keep assuming Russia is ready to deal. I haven’t seen anything that tells me that they are.
That’s where Trump comes into the equation. Hate the man all you want, but history proves, unlike other world leaders, including other American presidents, Putin at least respects him.
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But I do Ukrsine dhojlf negotiate and do the best they can, but does that mean surrendering their sovereignty? Giving Rusdia control over their country?
Here’s the thing, as things stand today, the trajectory of this war is heading in that direction. Ukraine still has at least some bargaining power. But with each passing day that bargaining power is shrinking as Ukraine finds it more and more difficult to make good the manpower losses it’s suffering daily.
As I’ve said repeatedly, this is a static war of attrition very similar to WWI. Just as that war was decided by one side reaching exhaustion, so this war will be decided.
The difference though is the leadership in Germany finally saw the writing on the wall and sued for peace just as the collapse was starting in their armies. And the Allied Powers did not want to erase Germany from the map. In today’s war it seems Ukraine’s leadership is willing to take the country into the abyss over a war they know full well is unwinnable for them and the Russians will be more than happy to let them.
The bottom line is this. The only way this war ends with an independent Ukraine is if a negotiated peace is reached very soon.
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 9:09 pm to Auburn1968
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The EU is now moving toward creating their own military. I guess Trump goosing them has a lot to do with that.
When they allocate spending for this, it will become reality in a year if not 5 years later. Otherwise lip service again.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 9:23 pm to Darth_Vader
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In today’s war it seems Ukraine’s leadership is willing to take the country into the abyss over a war
Zelensky was Ihor Kolomoyskyi’s candidate. The war changed things though
Zelensky was suddenly a lot more powerful, and not someone’s pawn, and that was partly because of the money he controlled . And it got to the point where he could and did turn on Kolomoyskyi. Which was probably the smart thing to do.
The problem is, he’s not an oligarch, he doesn’t control any industry in Ukraine, he doesn’t run an organized crime syndicate, and all of his wealth and power is predicated on the fact that he’s president. And it disappears if he loses office. And he would lose office if surrenders or attempts to make peace with the Russians. Trying to do that could also get him killed. And going into exile is not necessarily a safe option either. A rival could have him murdered on a beach in Spain or at a nice cafe in Tel Aviv. And his people aren’t the ones dying either, so the costs are a very different for him.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 9:53 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 3/2/25 at 9:56 pm to Darth_Vader
I can’t argue with any of that except Putin may agree. Ukraine will eventually collapse and he will stall if he can.
I support Trump too, but I have yet to see him get Putin to move.
I support Trump too, but I have yet to see him get Putin to move.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 11:03 pm to StormyMcMan
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Recent Russian official statements in response to the proposed US-Ukraine mineral deal indicate that the Kremlin is trying to sabotage the deal
Posted on 3/2/25 at 11:11 pm to John Barron
Posted on 3/2/25 at 11:21 pm to John Barron
Posted on 3/2/25 at 11:50 pm to StormyMcMan
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Recent Russian official statements in response to the proposed US-Ukraine mineral deal indicate that the Kremlin is trying to sabotage the deal through narratives targeting Ukrainian and American audiences.
This is one of the more retarded takes from ISW...and they've had too many to count. Obviously the Kremlin doesn't want that deal to take place, but they didn't force a coked out Zelensky to act like a clown in the Oval Office. I really hope the mineral deal never happens, I want nothing to do with that shithole.
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:21 am to 94LSU
Screw that, a play is under way to deliver them 24 short range tactical nukes but the mfers will hit Moscow
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:26 am to TutHillTiger
Biden tried to send a dozen or so tactical nukes to Poland which I assume would have ended up in Ukraine but they couldn’t off the ground at the AFB in England due to the drones and orbs.
Apparently whoever is in control of that wouldn’t let nukes be deployed to the Ukes.
Apparently whoever is in control of that wouldn’t let nukes be deployed to the Ukes.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:35 am to TutHillTiger
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This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 1:36 am
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:55 am to cypher
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The Thales missile factory in Belfast is to supply 5,000 air defence missiles to Ukraine, the Prime Minister has announced.
The deal is worth up to £1.6bn and will involve recruiting 200 additional staff.
Where is the money for that coming from?
Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:19 am to TutHillTiger
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Biden tried to send a dozen or so tactical nukes to Poland which I assume would have ended up in Ukraine but they couldn’t off the ground at the AFB in England due to the drones and orbs.
Apparently whoever is in control of that wouldn’t let nukes be deployed to the Ukes.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 5:48 am to cypher
Trump to discuss potential suspension, cancellation of military aid for Ukraine on March 3
by Kateryna Hodunova March 3, 2025 11:09 AM
U.S. President Donald Trump will discuss on March 3 the possible suspension or complete cancellation of military aid to Ukraine, including weapons pledged by the Biden administration, The New York Times (NYT) reported, citing an undisclosed source.
The news comes after Trump's public spat with President Volodymyr Zelensky in the White House on Feb. 28 that upended plans to sign a natural resources treaty between the two countries.
An unnamed administration official told NYT that Trump will meet on March 3 with his top national security aides, including Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, to review and potentially act on a range of policy options for Ukraine.
Among the issues to be considered will be the suspension or cancellation of U.S. military aid to Ukraine, including the latest shipments of ammunition and equipment authorized during the Biden administration, the official said.
Zelensky has repeatedly urged the U.S. to continue shipping arms to Ukraine to strengthen Kyiv's position in future peace negotiations with Russia.
The Trump administration has not authorized new weapons shipments for Ukraine, but has not halted those that were announced under the previous Biden administration.
Reuters reported in early February that opposing factions within the administration had been debating whether the U.S. should continue providing weapons.
The Kyiv Independent
by Kateryna Hodunova March 3, 2025 11:09 AM
U.S. President Donald Trump will discuss on March 3 the possible suspension or complete cancellation of military aid to Ukraine, including weapons pledged by the Biden administration, The New York Times (NYT) reported, citing an undisclosed source.
The news comes after Trump's public spat with President Volodymyr Zelensky in the White House on Feb. 28 that upended plans to sign a natural resources treaty between the two countries.
An unnamed administration official told NYT that Trump will meet on March 3 with his top national security aides, including Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, to review and potentially act on a range of policy options for Ukraine.
Among the issues to be considered will be the suspension or cancellation of U.S. military aid to Ukraine, including the latest shipments of ammunition and equipment authorized during the Biden administration, the official said.
Zelensky has repeatedly urged the U.S. to continue shipping arms to Ukraine to strengthen Kyiv's position in future peace negotiations with Russia.
The Trump administration has not authorized new weapons shipments for Ukraine, but has not halted those that were announced under the previous Biden administration.
Reuters reported in early February that opposing factions within the administration had been debating whether the U.S. should continue providing weapons.
The Kyiv Independent
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 5:52 am to cypher
Posted on 3/3/25 at 5:58 am to cypher
Zelensky Says He’s Ready to Sign Minerals Deal
“It is our policy to continue what happened in the past, we’re constructive,” Zelensky said, quoted by the BBC.
by AFP | Mar. 3, 2025, 1:41 am
Ukraine is ready to sign a minerals deal with the United States, President Volodymyr Zelensky told UK media on Sunday.
“The agreement that’s on the table will be signed if the parties are ready,” he told a late-night huddle with some UK media after a landmark summit in London.
The deal, which was supposed to be a step towards helping to end the conflict in Ukraine, fell through on Friday after a televised Oval Office confrontation that began with remarks from US Vice President Vance and continued with President Trump, both berating President Zelensky.
“It is our policy to continue what happened in the past; we’re constructive,” Zelensky said, quoted by the BBC.
“If we agreed to sign the minerals deal, we’re ready to sign it.”
The Kyiv Post
“It is our policy to continue what happened in the past, we’re constructive,” Zelensky said, quoted by the BBC.
by AFP | Mar. 3, 2025, 1:41 am
Ukraine is ready to sign a minerals deal with the United States, President Volodymyr Zelensky told UK media on Sunday.
“The agreement that’s on the table will be signed if the parties are ready,” he told a late-night huddle with some UK media after a landmark summit in London.
The deal, which was supposed to be a step towards helping to end the conflict in Ukraine, fell through on Friday after a televised Oval Office confrontation that began with remarks from US Vice President Vance and continued with President Trump, both berating President Zelensky.
“It is our policy to continue what happened in the past; we’re constructive,” Zelensky said, quoted by the BBC.
“If we agreed to sign the minerals deal, we’re ready to sign it.”
The Kyiv Post
Posted on 3/3/25 at 6:39 am to cypher
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The UK is ready to close the sky over Ukraine to ensure a peace deal-PM Starmer said.
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Britain and France have not reached an agreement on a joint ceasefire plan in Ukraine.
This was announced by the Deputy Minister of Defense of Great Britain, Luke Pollard.
According to him, Paris and London have not agreed on the plan for the proposed month-long ceasefire in Ukraine, which was announced on Sunday evening by French President Emmanuel Macron.
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There is still a big issue in the plan:
Why would Russia want a ceasefire if the battlefield conditions are better than the diplomatic ones? I have not really seen anything in the plan that would either force Russia to sit at the table or make them want to sit at the table.
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JUST IN
Zelensky: Will Only Meet Trump Again for ‘Serious’ Talks.
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Peskov: Zelensky demonstrated a complete lack of diplomatic skills in the White House.
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Ireland rethinks its neutrality—big shift in defense policy?
Dublin is moving to ease defense rules to boost support for Ukraine, potentially ditching the "triple lock" system that requires UN, government & parliament approval for troop deployments (Bloomberg).
Why does it matter? Ireland has long kept its neutral stance, but rising security threats could push it closer to NATO-style cooperation.
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President Zelensky Statement:
“Ukraine is fighting for the normal and safe life it deserves, for a peace that is just and reliable. We want this war to end. But Russia does not want it and continues its aerial terror: over the past week, more than 1,050 strike drones, almost 1,300 aerial bombs and more than 20 missiles have been launched at Ukraine to destroy cities and kill people.
Those who want negotiations do not deliberately hit people with ballistic missiles. To force Russia to stop the strikes, we need a greater joint force of the world.
Strengthening our air defenses, supporting the army and effective security guarantees that will make it impossible for Russian aggression to return - this is what we must focus on. Justice must prevail. We believe in the power of unity and we will definitely restore a reliable peace.”
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Seems Moscow's quite pleased with how the last few days have gone. Today's Russian papers:
· “Russia can't conceal its malicious pleasure…”
· “The Western system is crashing like a house of cards.”
· Kremlin “New US foreign policy...largely aligned with Russia’s” #ReadingRussia
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I might come back with some more thoughts on London later, but for now:
If one puts troops on the ground in Ukraine, regardless of how, one must be prepared to fight Russia, if it comes down to that. I think this is why countries close to Russia either say no or won't discuss it
The US backstop everyone seems to be hoping for was perhaps a bridge too far even for the previous Administration. After all, NATO membership never was on the table.
Russia likely rejecting the French - British proposal might be by design.
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There are about 620 thousand russian troops in the occupied territories of Ukraine, said Vadym Skibitsky, a representative of the MDI of the Ministry of Defense.
"More than 200 thousand are assault units that participate in hostilities and are on the front line. In addition, there are 35 thousand russian Guard servicemen who provide for the occupation authorities [...]", says Skibitskyi.
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 7:07 am to cypher
quote:Trump was quoted by Bloomberg on Feb. 17 saying that he would allow US armament manufacturors to sell weapons to Western allies for supply to Ukraine. This would be good for the US arms companies and their employees. Ukraine has the money, as $50 billion was transferred to them from the seized Russian overseas investments.
Trump to discuss potential suspension, cancellation of military aid for Ukraine on March 3
Will this decision be changed later today? If Trump allows the sales to supply Ukraine, he still has plausible deniability against the charges of being Putin's accomplice. If he changes this policy and jams all US weapons supplies to Ukraine, there will no longer exist a shred of doubt.
This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 7:15 am
Posted on 3/3/25 at 7:19 am to Coeur du Tigre
quote:LOL! Yeah, that'll work this time for sure! Ignore the last 8 years ever happened! Nobody has ever called Trump a Russian spy before!
he still has plausible deniability against the charges of being Putin's accomplice
Clowns.
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