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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/27/25 at 12:43 am to
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 12:43 am to
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I know Russia is slowly moving West.
ISW is reporting that.


Russia is paying an extremely high butchers bill for that.

If Ukraine were to hire contract pilots and maintenance crews for a lot of F16's the tide would entirely turn. There are over 4000 F16's in service about to be retired with many more pilots and crews. It would more than offset the Putin bringing in North Koreans.

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 2:27 am to
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That's the problem, the situation outside of Eastern Europe is awful, and it gets worse the further west you go. Who on earth wants their country to end up like the UK, France, or Germany




The beauty of Russia. "Life may be bad, but at least it's short."
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 4:25 am to
Trump did not "implicitly give a green light for China to take Taiwan."

Trumps words:

"I never comment on that. I don't comment on it because I don't want to ever put myself in that position. And if I said it, I certainly wouldn't be saying it to you. I'd be saying it to other people, maybe people around this table, very specific people around this table. So I don't want to put myself in that position."

"I have a great relationship with President Xi. I've had a great relationship with him. We want them to come in and invest. I see so many things saying that we don't want China in this country. That's not right. We want them to invest in the United States. That's good. There's a lot of money coming in and we'll invest in China. We'll do things with China. The relationship we'll have with China would be a very good one."

Trump spoke during a Cabinet meeting in response to a reporter's question about whether it was his policy that China would never take Taiwan by force while he is president.

He said he intended to have good relations with China, including cross-border investment, despite his imposition of tariffs on goods from the country.

Beijing has never renounced the use of force to bring self-ruled Taiwan under its control. Taiwan strongly objects to China's sovereignty claims.

Link to what Trump actually said.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13214 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 5:20 am to
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I read Stormy’s posts every day and lately it’s been slight advances in four are five villages and Ukraine in none or one. I get the idea Russia advancing, but slowly.

This is the part that's real.

It's the 80% above it in the updates that reads like propaganda.

And generally the very last sentence...am I the only one to see the pattern?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 5:51 am to
They throw in just enough slanted assumptions to make you question the rest of it.

quote:

Lavrov's and other Kremlin officials' continued rejections of a ceasefire and other terms that US President Donald Trump and European leaders have identified as necessary to achieve a lasting peace in Ukraine demonstrate that Russian President Vladimir Putin remains uninterested in meaningful negotiations and assesses that he can achieve his war objectives militarily in the medium- to long-term.


Guess we will see, ISW Cucks
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 5:55 am to
The isw mob can't accept this inconvenient truth
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5643 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:06 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE
27 February 2025

Prior to Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022, Russia's leadership almost certainly perceived the Russian Federation Navy and the Black Sea Fleet as integral components of their maritime power. After three years of war, Russia's naval capabilities in the Black Sea have been significantly constrained through highly effective Ukrainian operations.

Pre-invasion, the Ukrainian Navy was vastly outnumbered by the Black Sea Fleet and limited to a small number of major warships and coastal defence vessels. Throughout the conflict, the Ukrainian Navy has been unable to operate conventionally in the Black Sea. However, since 24 February 2022, Ukrainian forces have destroyed or damaged at least 24 Russian vessels operating in the Black Sea. This includes the sinking of the Black Sea Fleet flagship, Slava-Class cruiser "MOSKVA", which had previously been described as a cutting-edge air defence platform.

As a result, Russia's Black Sea Fleet has been forced to move all of its major assets from its historic base in Sevastopol to Novorossiysk in the Eastern Black Sea. Russian units operating in the region have also been forced to adapt their tactics and change the areas in which they operate. Despite Russia's Black Sea Fleet currently being limited to the Eastern Black Sea, it retains the ability to conduct long range strikes into Ukraine in support of land operations.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5643 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:12 am to
Ukraine’s forces inflicting heavy losses on Russia near Kotlyne – military

27.02.2025 13:17

The capture of Kotlyne by the Ukrainian troops marks a significant setback for Russia’s plans to seize Pokrovsk, allowing the Ukrainian forces to eliminate an abnormally high number of Russian troops.

Major Viktor Trehubov, Spokesperson for Ukraine’s Khortytsia Operational-Strategic Group of Troops sated this on TV broadcast, according to Ukrinform.

"This is extremely important because the Pokrovsk axis is where the Russians are making their greatest efforts, concentrating the largest number of their troops, and engaging in the most intense battles. This is their main objective at the moment — securing the southern part of Donetsk region, which involves encircling and capturing Pokrovsk. However, this is also where they are facing their biggest failures. The Ukrainian forces have successfully transitioned to an effective form of active defense, where we hold our positions and also eliminate an abnormally high number of enemy troops and launch counterattacks in sensitive areas, disrupting their plans," the Spokesperson reported.

Answering a question about whether the Pokrovsk–Dnipro highway could be targeted by enemy artillery, Trehubov noted that the Russians' plan has not materialized so far.

"The Russians' objective was to reach the highway and establish first fire control over it, and then physical control. However, following the counterattack on Kotlyne, we can say that this plan is currently failing. There are several factors that even the Russians themselves complain about. I can name three: the dominance of Ukrainian drones, the lack of personnel, which is amusing to hear from Russian military bloggers, and the fact that their guided bombs have become ineffective because Ukrainian electronic warfare systems have made targeting significantly more difficult," the Spokesperson explained.

Ukrinform

Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
42603 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:29 am to
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And generally the very last sentence...am I the only one to see the pattern?


I know, but I read it for war news. The other stuff is suspect.
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
42603 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:32 am to
You will criticize ISW, that’s fine; however, you never challenge any of sources JB ours in this thread. Why is that?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:52 am to
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you never challenge any of sources JB ours in this thread. Why is that?


You already asked about this.

Do you have any new material?

Just so you don't have to go back to the first time you tried this gotcha, I said that I don't find randoms on twitter remotely compelling.

Challenging JB's sources would mean looking into multiple different Twitter accounts that I don't find particularly insightful anyway. When people post things from legitimate outlets or pundits that I am familiar with, I pay more attention to those.

Why don't YOU challenge his sources? You just say its all bullcrap but never dig into the individual accounts and show why. Show your homework and let us know, I'd be genuinely curious.
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
42603 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 8:24 am to
[quote] You already asked about this. Do you have any new material? Just so you don't have to go back to the first time you tried this gotcha, I said that I don't find randoms on twitter remotely compelling. Challenging JB's sources would mean looking into multiple different Twitter accounts that I don't find particularly insightful anyway. When people post things from legitimate outlets or pundits that I am familiar with, I pay more attention to those. Why don't YOU challenge his sources? You just say it’s all bullcrap but never dig into the individual accounts and show why. Show your homework and let us know, I'd be genuinely curious.[/quote

So you can’t tell us about JB, but you can tell us about ISW even though you paint yourself as the arbitrator of truth in this thread.

And I hzz as ve dug into some of JB’s sources and I have found that they are Russian leaning . I don’t check them all because there are too many, but all the ones I check appear to be Russian propaganda.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 8:32 am to
I have not posted daily fan fiction reports from some news letter that is owned by Putins Sister In Law I even post stuff from Ukrainian accounts like Robb Lee


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This post was edited on 2/27/25 at 8:48 am
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 8:48 am to
I just told you about JB's posts

quote:

I don't find randoms on twitter remotely compelling.


I look at the username and literally don't even read over half of them

quote:

the arbitrator of truth


I like that, I'm going to start using that title formally.

quote:

And I hzz as ve dug into some of JB’s sources


You Hzz dug into them? Then please share. I'm serious, if you have some good info as to why I shouldn't read them I'd honestly like to hear it.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 8:54 am to
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doubleb


Most of my post are just news around the War like this...And it usually is based on facts not opinion and has video


"So be it then…only total surrender is needed to bring this sort of m@niacs to their senses!!!

Zaluzhny Promises to Continue the Conflict in Ukraine

Ukrainian General Valeriy Zaluzhny, who is being touted as a potential successor to Zelensky, spoke at a Greek Catholic cathedral in London, unexpectedly turning the church pulpit into a political platform.

"This war is not over. Ukraine will not surrender. With your help, we will achieve victory," Zaluzhny promised his London patrons.

London has decided to fight to the last Ukrainian."


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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:02 am to
Macron’s Visit to Trump on Ukraine Deemed a “Waste of Time” – Politico

French President Emmanuel Macron’s trip to meet Donald Trump and discuss Ukraine turned out to be a “waste of time,” Politico reports, citing diplomatic sources. Macron failed to secure security guarantees from the US for European troops in Ukraine or ensure Europe’s involvement in negotiations.

According to EU officials, Macron “did not receive concrete assurances” from Trump.

“There remains strategic ambiguity on this issue,” said one European diplomat.

Europe is hoping for US support in a potential peacekeeping mission in Ukraine, including intelligence, air defense, and military transport, but so far, these expectations have not been met.

The idea of appointing an EU special representative for negotiations was also discussed, but Trump “showed no interest” in such a format.

Today, UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer is visiting Trump on a similar mission."

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Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:08 am to
Since he came to power in 1999, more than 20 Putin critics have been killed or died mysteriously.

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Posted by cypher
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:12 am to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:13 am to
Even Ukraine admitted Navalny died of a blood clot. He should of stayed away from the Covid Vaccine


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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:15 am to
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