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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:29 pm to
This is an interesting picture from WSJ. Posting for context more than anything
For whatever reason the legend isn't in the image:
Orange - Lithium
Purple - Titanium, Zirconium
Blue - Rare earths
Gray Shaded - Russian Forces
Blue shaded - Ukrainian forces in Russia



Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:33 pm to
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I might go over to the Ukraine and capture Zelensky myself and bring him back for Trump




Russian assassins have tried to execute him 20 times and failed but your basement-dwelling message board arse is badassed enough to "bring him back for Trump?"

Please do!
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:45 pm to
A handy guide for Donald Trump: what the polls really tell us about Zelenskyy's approval ratings

Roman Romaniuk — Wednesday, 19 February 2025, 21:00



In recent years, Zelenskyy's approval ratings have indeed been gradually falling compared to the abnormally high figures of February 2022. However, they are still over 10 times (!) higher than Trump's claim of 4%.



In February, even with candidates such as Valerii Zaluzhnyi [Ukraine’s former Commander-in-Chief – ed.], Kyrylo Budanov [Head of Ukraine’s Defence Intelligence] and several other new names from the military potentially entering the race, President Zelenskyy firmly holds second place (after Zaluzhnyi). According to Sotsys, as of early February, his rating stands at around 16% – or approximately 22% of those who have made their choice and plan to vote.



Looking at the presidential ratings over time, there is a clear trend of declining support for Zelenskyy. However, this is not a headlong plummet like Trump’s meme coin plunge, but rather a gradual downward trend that has never dipped below 15% among all voters in the first round. Such ratings cannot be described as "low".

NOTE: LordBebo version has Zaluzhnyi cropped out.



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Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:08 pm to
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

A handy guide for Donald Trump: what the polls really tell us about Zelenskyy's approval ratings



And it looks like if Zelensky is defeated it will be by Zuluzhnyi, the architect of the counter-offensive, the "Iron General," and currently Ukraine's ambassador to the UK...

What makes anybody think he would be more apt to submit to Putin? He was dismissed for underperforming on the counter-offensive (probably not his fault, since the US was pushing Ukraine to do things instead of what they wanted to do)...
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:22 pm to
Zuluzhnyi also wants a mass mobilization for military personnel, which Zelensky resisted... so, if the public votes for him, that seems like a vote to fight on with more Ukrainian troops.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 5:24 pm
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:37 pm to
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Macron: We don't plan to send troops to Ukraine



Hahahahaha. Macron says frick Ukraine!

Posted by GoAwayImBaitn
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:30 pm to
The French would get involved and just ask for another country to come bail them out anyway
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:57 pm to
LINK

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US House speaker: no appetite for another Ukraine funding bill



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Speaker of the House of Representatives Mike Johnson said on Thursday there is "no appetite" for another funding bill for Ukraine, a day after President Donald Trump called Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy a "dictator" and warned he must move quickly to secure peace with Russia or risk losing his country.

"There's no appetite for that," Johnson told Newsmax during the Conservative Political Action Conference when asked - to a chorus of boos from the right-leaning audience - if he foresaw another funding bill for Ukraine, if it takes several more months before the war ends.

"We have to bring (the war) to an end. And I can tell you that our European allies understand the necessity as well. It's (dragged) on too long," Johnson said.

The Republican House leader's comments came amid deepening uncertainty about the future of U.S. support for Kyiv, amid a war of words between Trump and Zelenskiy.
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:56 pm to
ISW Update

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Key Takeaways:

The Financial Times (FT) published an investigation on February 20 supporting ISW's long-held assessment that Russian military commanders are either complicit in or directly enabling subordinates to execute Ukrainian prisoners of war (POWs) in clear violation of international law.

FT's investigation suggests that more senior Russian commanders may also be complicit in issuing orders to execute Ukrainian POWs.

Senior Ukrainian intelligence officials reported that North Korean forces are conducting joint operations with Russian forces in Kursk Oblast and are gaining new combat capabilities.

US Special Representative for Russia and Ukraine Keith Kellogg met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv on February 20.

The Kremlin is likely attempting to portray the People's Republic of China (PRC) as more aligned with its stance on the war in Ukraine than the PRC is willing to publicly message.

Ukrainian forces recently advanced near Pokrovsk, and Russian forces recently advanced near Pokrovsk and Velyka Novosilka.

Russia is reportedly increasing its production of glide bombs and modernizing its cruise missiles.


Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:48 pm to
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What makes anybody think he would be more apt to submit to Putin?

Because he has the military know-how to realize they can't win?

Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:50 pm to
"DeepStateMap has issued a statement about the critical situation in Sumy and Kursk.

They acknowledged the impact Russian attacks have had on Ukraine logistics in the Sumy region, confirming that Russian drones have almost complete fire control on the roads leading in.

Additionally, they report that Russian forces are now pushing to physically cut all the roads in Kursk, which rhwy claim is having a real impact on Ukrainea ability at the front, near Sudzha"


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Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:09 pm to
The 4% number is accurate. What they didn’t tell you is that they polled the PT board.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 2:50 am to
quote:

This is an interesting picture from WSJ. Posting for context more than anything
For whatever reason the legend isn't in the image:
Orange - Lithium
Purple - Titanium, Zirconium
Blue - Rare earths
Gray Shaded - Russian Forces
Blue shaded - Ukrainian forces in Russia

Here's another examination of the true value of the Ukrainian mineral holdings. Trump's $500 billion is an obviously low ball figure. The true value is $14.6 trillion. Or in terms the Trump supporters can understand, "The Real Estate Deal of the Century".
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 3:55 am
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 4:20 am to
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The Ukraine First crowd are in their death throes. Their spiral wouldn't be as entertaining had they not been so toxic and tribal toward anyone who dare have an opposing view for 3 years. But since they were, its extremely entertaining.


GOP_Tiger: Acceptance phase. He knows it is not worth debating any longer.

doubleb: Same as above, except he is too stubborn to quit.

Cope de tigre and cypher: Trying their best to find silver linings in all the clouds.

CitizenK: Was, is, and continues to be completely delusional.

Lee B: In a state of full on denial.
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