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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:02 pm to
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Trump doesn’t want to be known as a Neville Chamberlain, but…….


Nobody with testosterone in the United States cares what a bunch of USAID cucks at the Kyiv Post/Independent say about anything yesterday, today or tomorrow.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:21 pm to
If these clown leaders in Europe are unwilling to accept reality and they allow Zelensky to take them down the path of a possible expansion of the war that is own them. But the US should not be obligated to come to their rescue again to bail their arse out.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:30 pm to
Macron to the rescue!!!!

Macron, Scholz, Starmer, Tusk, Von der leyen

Paper tigers.

This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:38 pm to
Two interesting interviews with Kurt Volker, the former U.S. special representative for Ukraine negotiations, about the upcoming U.S.-Russia talks in Saudi Arabia and why he thinks Ukraine should not be overly concerned about U.S. President Donald Trump's first steps toward peace negotiations to end Russia's war in Ukraine.

LINK 1

LINK 2
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:21 pm to

Revealed: Trump’s confidential plan to put Ukraine in a stranglehold


Panic in Kyiv as US president demands higher share of GDP than Germany’s First World War reparations

A new Versailles

If this draft were accepted, Trump’s demands would amount to a higher share of Ukrainian GDP than reparations imposed on Germany at the Versailles Treaty, later whittled down at the London Conference in 1921, and by the Dawes Plan in 1924. At the same time, he seems willing to let Russia off the hook entirely.

Donald Trump told Fox News that Ukraine had “essentially agreed” to hand over $500bn. “They have tremendously valuable land in terms of rare earths, in terms of oil and gas, in terms of other things,” he said.

He warned that Ukraine would be handed to Putin on a plate if it rejected the terms. “They may make a deal. They may not make a deal. They may be Russian someday, or they may not be Russian someday. But I want this money back,” he said.

Trump said the US had spent $300bn on the war so far, adding that it would be “stupid” to hand over any more. In fact the five packages agreed by Congress total $175bn, of which $70bn was spent in the US on weapons production. Some of it is in the form of humanitarian grants, but much of it is lend-lease money that must be repaid.

The Telegraph
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:28 pm to

Trump is a deal maker, but he usually is dealing from a position of strength.

I'd like to think that this is his offering of a carrot to Putin the Great. If it is, it sure doesn't look like Putin wants anything other than defeating Ukraine and destroying its sovereignty.

No idea how this will play out, but maybe Ukraine should have kept some of their nukes.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:14 pm to
It's a no brainer that Orban would criticize it. He's owned by Putin.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:28 pm to
There is a reason that the press is used for mixed messages and they willfully comply because it sells.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:56 pm to
How is that technology not even found in Silicon Valley coming?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:07 pm to
The Russians sound maximalist

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Taken literally, that’s Kharkov, that’s Odessa.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:09 pm to
Military Recruiter gets knocked out in Kiev


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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:28 pm to
Ukraine will not take part in tomorrow’s U.S.-Russia talks, “even if I am asked,” Zelensky stated.

Speaking to Politico, Zelensky dismissed any connection between his visits and the negotiations in Saudi Arabia.

“My trips have nothing to do with these talks. However, when I arrive in Saudi Arabia, I will ask His Majesty what he knows about the discussions,” he added.

This is getting kinda sad for Z...





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Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:37 pm to
It's used to separate rare earth minerals. It was going to be used to stimulate stripper oil wells but they marketed it wrong in the US. It was successfully used in Ukraine to turn 10 BPD wells into 60 BPD wells.

Another technology I am working with reduces pour point of waxy crude like from tight shale oil wells from 85 degrees fahrenheit to below 30 degrees fahrenheit. Awaiting final engineering design of first unit to be built. This is a major issue with pipelines and they could carry more without having to build new ones.

As of last week I am working with the new owner of the LNG terminal in Alaska in Kenai.

Have fun in your cluelessness little man

Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:42 pm to
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but they marketed it wrong in the US




If a product works and creates value, billion dollar oil companies will know about it and use it. You sound like a BS salesman. Not surprising since all you do is pump BS in this thread
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:43 pm to
The hardcore Ukraine bros on here will never relent. They will never accept reality.

Cypher the Ukrainian Bagdad Bob, CitizenK, and his 50,000 friends that he talked to on the phone or did business.with in 1952, their awol General Bill, Keith Olberman who wants Trump dead, and the rest are dedicated Slava boys.

They are as blind as those failed European leaders. They live in a fantasy world.

OUT OF TOUCH!!

They have drank the Koolaid.
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 4:01 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:44 pm to
Is your new technology cutting edge and also not found in Silicon Valley? If so, could be a game changer bro
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