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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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Posted by cypher
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:51 am to
Anton Gerashchenko
?@antongerashchenko.bsky.social?

Peskov officially confirmed that Lavrov and Putin's aide Ushakov have left for Saudi Arabia for negotiations with the United States delegation.

He added that the meeting will be "devoted primarily to the restoration of relations between the two countries"

"restoration of relations between the two countries" is kremlin speak for wanting US sanctions to be dropped
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:06 am to
more on possible sanction relief...

?Institute for the Study of War? ?@thestudyofwar.bsky.social?

Western reporting suggests that the United States intends to ease sanctions on Belarus. Russia uses Belarus as a staging ground for its military against Ukraine and NATO and as a critical tool in its sanctions evasion schemes. (1/3)

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Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:20 am to
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:25 am to
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:27 am to
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The US doesn’t appear to be advocating for or supporting Ukraine anymore.


Perfect!
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:33 am to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:37 am to
Russia close to a deal to keep its bases in Syria according to Bloomberg


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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:42 am to
Desperate for Manpower. More kidnapping

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Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:43 am to
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:43 am to
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GOP Tiger (Bill) ran for the hills because all of his shite predictions are fixing to come crashing down. He was the Peter Zeihan of the OT Ukraine thread that thought himself a military genius. General Bill.

Like I said he and Keith should start a geopolitical channel on Bluesky.


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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:48 am to
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GOP Tiger (Bill) ran for the hills because all of his shite predictions


Yeah, he had a complete mental breakdown the other day. That Trump/Putin phone call completely broke him
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:49 am to
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:52 am to
I don't get that. Trump said yesterday that Zelensky would participate in the negotiations.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:55 am to
Well, he’s Churchill in the negative sense. The UK went from a super power, to a bankrupt second rate state under his leadership.
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:00 am to
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Well, he’s Churchill in the negative sense. The UK went from a super power, to a bankrupt second rate state under his leadership.


This is true. And look at the state they are in now.

JD Vance was 100% correct in what he told them. The people of Europe are rejecting policies of globalism/wokeness and politicians like Scholz, Macron, Starmer, etc.
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 10:05 am
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:35 am to
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The people of Europe are rejecting policies of globalism/wokeness and politicians like Scholz, Macron, Starmer, etc.


I don’t think those policies have ever been popular. The French and the English hate their governments. And when these issues have come up for a vote, they’ve historically opposed them.

The Germans for their part are an occupied people, and there’s a limited window of acceptable political opinions because of this. The former GDR is the only healthy part of the country, because, oddly enough, the communists did less damage to them than we did.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:58 am to

OPINION: Will Donald Trump Be Another Neville Chamberlain?


The parallels between the 1938 Munich Agreement’s appeasement of Nazi Germany and Donald Trump’s Munich Security Conference accommodation of Putin should not be ignored.

Donald Trump has long sought to portray an image of himself as a strong president who actively defends American interests abroad. His willingness to negotiate with Vladimir Putin about ending the Russo-Ukrainian war without the participation of Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky, however, risks making Trump look as weak and ineffectual as Neville Chamberlain.

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Posted by DMAN1968
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 11:16 am to
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I don't get that. Trump said yesterday that Zelensky would participate in the negotiations.

In reality it's negotiations on how to proceed with future negotiations.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 11:40 am to
I alluded to that yesterday.

Trump doesn’t want to be known as a Neville Chamberlain, but…….
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 11:57 am to
Based on what Zelensky said yesterday in an interview regarding Ukraine not ever being willing to formally cede territory to Russia Trump knows that if he is allowed to sit at the table in the initial stage the negotiations are doomed for failure. Russia is going to demand a formal settlement/recognition in regards to cessation of territory, de-militarization, etc. Zelensky is also still saying he wants a million man army. It seems to me Zelensky is unwilling to accept the realities on the ground. If that occurs Russia is prepared and capable of taking additional territory by military force. Ukraine cannot sustain this and Europe cannot stop them. Ukraine and Europe need to recognize that reality. If they don't come around Trump will tell them you are on your own. The US is finished with this.
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