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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 11/6/24 at 4:14 pm to theunknownknight
Posted on 11/6/24 at 4:14 pm to theunknownknight
So many counting chickens before they hatch....
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 4:46 pm to TigersnJeeps
first time I've seen a net shooter in action
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 4:50 pm to TigersnJeeps
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So many counting chickens before they hatch....
Trump is just as likely to flood Ukraine with weapons to achieve a stronger negotiating stance.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 4:59 pm to TigersnJeeps
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So many counting chickens before they hatch....
The politard cult is strong in that entity
Posted on 11/6/24 at 5:36 pm to theunknownknight
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Looks like the laundering spigot is about to be turned off fellas. It’s been a good run.
We still have three more months at least to launder your hard earned wages from Boost mobile!
Posted on 11/6/24 at 5:43 pm to Philzilla
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Trump is just as likely to flood Ukraine with weapons to achieve a stronger negotiating stance.
I could be way off, but I suspect that Trump will offer Putin a carrot or a very big stick.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:22 pm to theunknownknight
Ukraine bros down bad. Better watch the mar a lago bushes!
Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:33 pm to texag7
Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:40 pm to GOP_Tiger
As if Big Serge has ever been a credible source
Posted on 11/6/24 at 7:53 pm to CitizenK
ISW Update Nov 6
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Key Takeaways:
Ukrainian forces reportedly struck a Russian naval base in Kaspiysk, Republic of Dagestan for the first time on November 6 damaging several missile ships of the Russia Caspian Sea Flotilla.
Ukrainian authorities reported that Russian forces executed at least 109 Ukrainian prisoners of war (POWs) since the start of the full-scale invasion amid new reports of Russian executions of Ukrainian POWs.
Russian forces recently advanced in the Kupyansk, Svatove, Pokrovsk, Kurakhove, and Vuhledar directions.
A prominent Russian brigade commander and official indicated that Russian commanders and civilian leadership explicitly view Russian military volunteers as expendable resources, consistent with high casualty rates across the frontline.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:05 pm to Auburn1968
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Trump is just as likely to flood Ukraine with weapons to achieve a stronger negotiating stance.
I could be way off, but I suspect that Trump will offer Putin a carrot or a very big stick.
I think you're way off...
but Trump has put himself in a lot of weird conflicts: he's relied on Elon Musk, so what about his promise to cut incentives for EVs (which greatly benefits Elon Musk)?
Being all in with Netanyahu in Israel's defensive war against Iran means going against one of Putin's primary allies and suppliers. "It's all one war," as we say here. Weakening Iran means weakening Putin at this point... taking pressure off of Putin, or outright helping him in any way means helping and strengthening Iran.
He might find himself stuck in helping Ukraine. Putin can order the Houthis and Iran to chill out, but that won't stop Netanyahu's campaign...
This post was edited on 11/6/24 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:12 pm to Lee B
I think that, a few months ago, most Ukraine supporters were concerned that a Trump victory might result in less American support for Ukraine, but the Biden/Sullivan plan has been so, so bad that Ukraine has been fighting with one hand behind its back for a good while.
One thing that will not continue will be giving weapons to Ukraine and not letting them use them to hit Russia.
One thing that will not continue will be giving weapons to Ukraine and not letting them use them to hit Russia.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:34 pm to GOP_Tiger
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One thing that will not continue will be giving weapons to Ukraine and not letting them use them to hit Russia.
I don't think Trump is going to be directly involved in hitting Russia in that way, so I suspect he'll just stop supplying those particular weapons.
But at that point, I don't think other NATO countries will listen to the US dictating how their weapons can be used. I also still expect Trump to try to exit NATO.
But he is stuck... Russia+Iran can't really be separated at this point.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 10:34 pm to Lee B
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I also still expect Trump to try to exit NATO.
NATO is a treaty. It takes 2/3 of the Senate. Ain't happening
Posted on 11/6/24 at 11:00 pm to CitizenK
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NATO is a treaty. It takes 2/3 of the Senate. Ain't happening
Does he have to officially exit NATO to screw it up?
Posted on 11/7/24 at 1:34 am to Philzilla
Easier said than done, what are you sending, and where is it coming from, but I think it’s also getting to the point where they have bigger problems. Syrski is converting Air Force personnel into infantry.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 1:39 am to GOP_Tiger
That may be Trump using a hardliner to posture, like he did with Iran and John Bolton.
Who knows though
If you’re a Russian hardliner, this is good news, because your greatest worry is that Putin would be willing to accept a mediocre deal in the name of peace. For a hardliner, fighting to the end is desirable because it means settling the issue once and for all, and it means recovering the maximum amount of territory.
Who knows though
If you’re a Russian hardliner, this is good news, because your greatest worry is that Putin would be willing to accept a mediocre deal in the name of peace. For a hardliner, fighting to the end is desirable because it means settling the issue once and for all, and it means recovering the maximum amount of territory.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 4:43 am to Lima Whiskey
Putin is still caught in a trap of his own making, because you are correct that ending the war now would cause the Russian people to rightly conclude that all the deaths were not worth it.
And, of course, the Russian economy has only been humming along because of the massive government war spending, but that is unsustainable because Russia is depleting its sovereign wealth fund. The end of the war, whenever it happens, will result in a severe economic crisis for Russia.
He can't stop without Sloviansk and Kramatorsk.
And, of course, the Russian economy has only been humming along because of the massive government war spending, but that is unsustainable because Russia is depleting its sovereign wealth fund. The end of the war, whenever it happens, will result in a severe economic crisis for Russia.
He can't stop without Sloviansk and Kramatorsk.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 5:52 am to GOP_Tiger
Random tweets
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The UK has imposed sanctions on the Espanola battalion fighting in Ukraine and the GRU officer involved in the Skripal poisoning
The UK has expanded the sanctions list against Russia. The list was supplemented with 56 individuals and organizations.
Under the restrictions, in particular, came the battalion “Espanola”, formed from neo-Nazi football fans and fighting on the side of Russia, as well as its commander Mikhail Turkanov. The sanctions also affected the “African Corps”, created as a replacement for the PMC "Wagner" in Africa.
Britain also imposed sanctions against GRU agent Denis Sergeyev, who was involved in the poisoning of the Skripals, and against former president of self-proclaimed South Ossetia Anatoliy Bibilov.
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If Trump manages to end the war in Ukraine, Belarus will nominate him for the Nobel Prize, Lukashenko said.
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The Russian parliament is drafting new regulations for individuals who have left Russia, targeting both designated "foreign agents" and regular citizens.
?? A special procedure is proposed for foreign agents regarding earnings from the use of intellectual property and brands.
?? All income from creative activities will be deposited into a mandatory ruble account designated specifically for foreign agents.
?? Receiving payments by any other means will be prohibited.
?? Additional measures are being considered for those who, while not officially labeled as foreign agents, have left Russia and publicly criticise the country. These individuals would be restricted from profiting from movable and immovable property located in Russia, including from its sale.
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Trump Advisers Seek to Freeze Ukraine Frontline, The Wall Street Journal Reports
Advisers to Trump are allegedly pushing to establish a demilitarised zone along the existing 1,300-kilometer frontline in Ukraine, without the involvement of U.S. peacekeeping forces. Under the proposal, Ukraine would agree to a 20-year moratorium on joining NATO. In exchange, Washington would provide Kyiv with defensive weaponry to help prevent the conflict from reigniting in the future.
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Biden plans to transfer $6 billion in aid to Ukraine before Trump's inauguration, Politico quoted White House officials as saying
It is noted that the president's team is preparing for the fact that after the Republican takes office, arms deliveries will stop.
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Trump's advisers proposed to postpone Ukraine's NATO membership for at least 20 years and freeze the war on the front lines - WSJ
The Wall Street Journal writes about this plan with reference to three people close to the US President-elect. Under the plan, Ukraine and Russia agree to a demilitarized zone along the current front line of about 1,300 kilometers.
In the role of peacekeepers, according to the idea of Trump's entourage, will have to act as European troops. The Americans will not participate in this - nor will they pay.
Kyiv should also abandon its plans to join NATO for at least the next 20 years. In return, the US will continue to supply Ukraine with weapons to deter a possible repeat Russian attack.
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This post was edited on 11/7/24 at 5:58 am
Posted on 11/7/24 at 6:25 am to GOP_Tiger
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And, of course, the Russian economy has only been humming along because of the massive government war spending, but that is unsustainable because Russia is depleting its sovereign wealth fund. The end of the war, whenever it happens, will result in a severe economic crisis for Russia.
That is laughable. It cannot even sell bonds it has issued at such high interest rates. No market for at least 50% of its natural gas, which means wells shut in which takes money to get flowing again at the same rate as before. Same goes for its crude oil production. It's lost its cash cow for profit, refined product sales to Europe. To regain that China has to shutdown more refineries.
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