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Posted on 10/16/24 at 4:09 pm to doubleb
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We are capitalists. I’d better investors are already planning on how they can make shells and make money doing that.
If that was true, it would have happened. It didn't.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 4:14 pm to Lima Whiskey
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We are capitalists. I’d better investors are already planning on how they can make shells and make money doing that.
If that was true, it would have happened. It didn't.
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The U.S. Army has started diversifying its supplier base for 155mm artillery shells, moving away from the bottleneck of a single source that has endangered the flow of fresh ammo, according to a top service official.
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“Part of what’s enabling that are things like the brand-new plant that we opened up in Mesquite, Texas, a couple of months ago. We’ve got a new load, assembly, pack plant in Camden, Arkansas, that’s going to be opening up pretty soon. So those are examples of where you see the payoff in that investment in the organic industrial base,” she said.
The Army had been making 155mm shells at a single plant in Scranton, Pennsylvania, and a privately operated facility nearby. All of the shells were transported to one place – Iowa Army Ammunition Plant – where they are packed with explosives.
The service quickly went under contract with General Dynamics Ordnance and Tactical Systems to build a new, mostly automated facility in Mesquite to build more shells using production systems from Turkey. And it also contracted more shell production with a company in Ontario, Canada – IMT Defense.
Shell production will go from basically one facility to four by early next year, Bush said.
The load, assemble and pack process will, by early next year, be conducted at two other facilities outside of Iowa — General Dynamics in Camden, Arkansas, and Day & Zimmerman in Parsons, Kansas, Bush said.
The Army awarded $1.5 billion in contracts to companies globally to procure bulk energetics like TNT and IMX-104 explosive as well primers and fuses in 2023.
Even so, the Army is also setting up two locations to produce propellant. “This is the propellant that goes inside the modular artillery charges right now, it’s only done in one place. It’s Valleyfield in Canada,” Bush said. Another propellant production facility will be set up at Radford Army Ammunition Plant in Virginia and the facility in Canada will have a capacity increase, he added
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The only place that made combustible cartridge cases – Armtec Defense Technologies – was in Coachella, California, well-known for its music festival, but also for being located along the San Andreas Fault with a high risk of large earthquakes. Day & Zimmerman will produce the cases at another location in Texarkana, Texas.
The Army is also setting up two locations producing propellant charges – American Ordnance in Middletown, Iowa, and General Dynamics in Camden, Arkansas.
“There [is] still the occasional single point, if you go down far enough, I’m not sure we can ever eliminate them entirely,” Bush said. “But we can build in more redundancy than we had before, which was, frankly, a very fragile setup where I could give you grid coordinates for like, four buildings in America, and if one of those, something happened tomorrow, we weren’t making anything … it definitely isn’t acceptable now, and we’re trying to get away from it
Posted on 10/16/24 at 4:58 pm to StormyMcMan
I love seeing my hometown of Camden, Arkansas, getting some more jobs. Lord knows that area needs them.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 5:58 pm to Chromdome35
Posted on 10/16/24 at 6:13 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The Scranton Army Ammunition Plant has ramped up production of these artillery rounds since Russia’s full scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022. They can be used to strike targets up to 20 miles away, making them one of Ukraine’s most requested items.
US New 12/23
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(Reuters) -Kyiv has agreed with two American firms to jointly manufacture vital 155mm artillery shells in Ukraine, a Ukrainian minister said on Thursday, although production will not start for at least two years
From the NYT 5/29/24:
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A plant still under construction in Mesquite, Texas, will soon turn out 30,000 artillery shells each month, roughly doubling current U.S. output. Share
II made a quick 10 minute search.
ETA: sorry Stormy beat me to the punch.
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 10/16/24 at 6:29 pm to doubleb
The production figures are insignificant compared their needs. And we’re not building artillery systems for them.
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 6:41 pm to Lima Whiskey
Posted on 10/16/24 at 6:47 pm to doubleb
I'm keeping an eye out for more reports about North Koreans deserting the front lines in Ukraine. Unless they are defecting to Ukraine, sort of hard to buy sources for now.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 6:58 pm to NC_Tigah
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The Agrarian Council, Ukraine's largest agribusiness group, said the cost of wheat production in 2023 was about $146 a metric ton, with an average selling price of $102. LINK
The cost of grain production in Russia was expected to increase in 2024 to 13,000 RUR/t, primarily due to higher f
For starters Ukraine has deeper topsoil than the Great Plains of the US which is about 6 feet. Russia's arable land is not that rich and less bushels per acre..
The big issue right now is the shortage of money globally and ability to pay for grain per my convo with an international grain trader of 40+ years. His company's assets is just going to sit on most of what they get from the Canadian harvest this year. There is no one with funding enough to pay who is buying. They are just going to spend cash on hand to enlarge their grain elevators across Saskatchewan before next year's harvest.
FWIW, he is with a much smaller company than he used to be, which was Continental Grain, then No.2 behind Cargill in the world trade.
Right now capital is in very short supply globally.
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 10/16/24 at 7:01 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The production figures are insignificant compared their needs. And we’re not building artillery systems for them.
I bet we aren’t the only ones ratcheting up and besides Russia doesn’t have enough either. They count on NK to supply them shells.
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“The Czech-led initiative to fund and procure urgently artillery ammo for Ukraine is progressing steadily – the first 180,000 shells have been contracted and should arrive by June,” František Šulc, the first Deputy Minister of Defense of the Czech Republic told Defense News during the IDEB defense fair, held here May 14-16.
Bulgaria:
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The factory stopped making the 122-millimeter shells in 1988 as the Cold War came to a close. But soon the assembly lines will be running again. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has turned Soviet-era arms and ammunition into critically important matériel as Western nations seek to supply Ukraine with the munitions it needs to foil Moscow’s assault. And so in January, 35 years after the last 122-millimeter shells left the Terem plant, the company recommissioned production.
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“The Ministry of Defence (MOD) placed an order in June 2023 with BAE Systems to provide an eight-fold increase in production capability of 155mm shells. The MOD contract is for significant initial quantities of 155mm shells which will reinstate and build sovereign capability and stockpiles. In respect of artillery ammunition being providing to Ukraine, since the start of the conflict, the UK has donated over 300,000 rounds of artillery ammunition – including 155mm and Former Soviet Union calibres.”
No it’s not enough, but market forces respond if there is money to be made.
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 7:37 pm to Chromdome35
Isw update Oct 16th
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Key Takeaways:
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky presented Ukraine's five-part Victory Plan aimed at winning the war by the end of 2025 to the Verkhovna Rada on October 16, which includes a promise to contribute experienced Ukrainian troops to defending NATO's eastern flank following the resolution of the war in Ukraine.
Russian President Vladimir Putin's current theory of victory in Ukraine seeks to protract the war and posits that Russian forces can outlast Western support for Ukraine and collapse Ukrainian resistance by winning a war of attrition. Russia will likely face serious medium- and long-term constraints that will undermine this strategic effort, however.
Imprisoned ardent nationalist and former Russian officer Igor Girkin notably questioned the Kremlin's articulated theory of victory and assessed that 2025 and possibly late 2024 will be “a serious test” for Russia because the Kremlin has yet to address medium- to long-term force-generation and defense-industrial-capacity constraints.
Girkin also assessed that Russian Summer–Fall 2024 offensive campaign did not accomplish its goals in the entire theater and is unlikely to do so ahead of the muddy season, although Russian forces are continuing intense offensive operations in several operational directions in Ukraine.
US President Joe Biden announced a new military assistance package for Ukraine worth $425 million following a phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on October 16.
The South Korean Ministry of Defense (MoD) stated on October 16 that it is "closely" monitoring indications that North Korean troops are directly supporting Russia's war effort in Ukraine amid reports that the Russian military is training North Korean soldiers.
Russian forces recently advanced in northern Kharkiv Oblast, near Kreminna, near Siversk, and near Toretsk.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:39 pm to doubleb
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No it’s not enough, but market forces respond if there is money to be made.
Not just money to be made but to even pay for capital investment in plant and equipment. It takes major orders to have this, orders like for the US government in size.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:02 pm to Tiger985
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Unless NATO (the United States) decides to fight Russia themselves, the Ukrainians are fricked. And no NATO population wants to fight WWIII with Russia over 20% of Ukraine. Or even 100% of Ukraine.
Have you met Poland?
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:19 pm to Lee B
Urgent update on President Zelinsky. Slava Ukraine keep up the work brave OT Generals
Zelinsky requesting aide
Zelinsky requesting aide
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:46 am to doubleb
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No it’s not enough, but market forces respond if there is money to be made.
Free markets actually are terrible here
These companies more interested in profit than total output, total output is irrelevant, and two, they're not going to dump money into expanding production if they believe the war end in relatively near future.
You actually want state owned factories for ammunition, like Scranton.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 5:50 am to Lima Whiskey
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You actually want state owned factories for ammunition, like Scranton.
WWII says not true.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 6:32 am to CitizenK
Random tweets
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The option to join the UAV units without visiting the TRC was added to Diia.
Ukrainians can independently choose a direction related to UAVs — from an operator of any drone to an engineer. Next, an invitation to an interview is received from the recruiter and a contract with the unit is signed.
The Ministry of Statistics emphasizes that after submitting an application, you can only get into the selected unit.
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The Russian State Duma passed in the first reading a bill on banning propaganda of childfree people in the Internet, mass media, movies and advertising
The Duma also passed in the first reading a draft law on introducing fines for propaganda of childfree people.
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Zelenskyy makes statement on secret annexes of the Victory Plan
According to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the secret annexes of the Victory Plan are sensitive and Ukraine usually asks for help as early as possible on such sensitive issues.
“For example, to make a decision and give us permission to use weapons over long distances,” he explained.
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The fight for the temple between the UOC-MP and the Orthodox Church of Ukraine continues
On the night of October 17, pro-Kremlin journalists wrote that allegedly "hundreds of masked men stormed the Archangel Michael Cathedral of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC) in Cherkasy and seized it."
According to RBC-Ukraine, the fight on the territory of the cathedral between believers of the Orthodox Church of Ukraine and the UOC-MP arose against the background of the fact that today it was transferred to the Orthodox Church of Ukraine (OCU). According to the newspaper, representatives of the UOC-MP broke the entrance gate and sprayed tear gas.
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Ukraine received almost $300 million in preferential financing from Canada.
This was announced by Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal.
The funds have already reached the state budget. The most important budget expenditures are financed from these funds.
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A Ukrainian warship has been put to sea for tests.
The Ukrainian corvette "Hetman Ivan Mazepa", built in Turkey, has been put to sea for sea trials. According to the published footage, a torpedo was fired from the corvette during the tests, and helicopter landing training was also held.
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Ukraine to be NATO member in future
NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte has said that Ukraine will join the North Atlantic Alliance as its 33rd or 34th member in the future. This is reported by “Europaiska Pravda”.
“At the moment it looks like Ukraine will be the 33rd member. But perhaps someone else will pop out in front of it. But Ukraine will be a member of NATO in the future. This is what we have decided in Washington. So the question now is about chronology,” the publication quoted the NATO head as saying.
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Ukrainian-Russian war. Day 964:
Situation on Kursk front:
- At Korenevsky district #RussianArmy took full control over the locality of Liubimovka. Clashes with #UkrainianArmy continue at Tolstyi Lug & Novoivanovka.
ituation north of Kharkov:
- From Kharkov axis #UkrainianArmy recaptured a series of positions northeast of Lyptsi.
Situation on Siversk front: During the last hours #RussianArmy took control over most of "white hill" north of Verkhnokamyanske.
Situation on Pokrovsk front: #RussianArmy began advancing at the beginning of the week northwest of Tsukuryne towards the road between Selidovo & Novodmytrivka, adding a new axis to take this supply route, which is already contested with #UkrainianArmy in the direction of Vyshneve. Meanwhile the situation in Izmailivka & Novoselydivka, where Russian forces have been trying to enter these localities since the beginning of the month, was clarified.
Situation southwest of Donetsk: #RussianArmy captured the eastern outskirts of Katerynivka & entered in new houses of this locality.
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Ukraine will not have a full F-16 squadron by the end of the year - WSJ
According to the newspaper, the United States is reorienting its training of Ukrainian F-16 pilots from experienced pilots to junior cadets. According to the WSJ, eight more experienced pilots are currently completing F-16 training in Arizona and will arrive in Ukraine early next year.
The newspaper's sources also note that Ukraine is unlikely to have a full F-16 squadron (20 planes and 40 pilots to fly them) until next spring or summer at the earliest.
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 6:52 am to StormyMcMan
BRITISH DEFENCE INTELLIGENCE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE
17 October 2024
Ukraine's General Staff confirmed Ukraine struck the Feodosia marine oil terminal in Russian-occupied Crimea on 7 October 2024. This terminal was previously targeted in March 2024 by Ukrainian uncrewed aerial vehicles.
Ukrainian attacks continue to incrementally degrade Russian military capabilities on the Crimean peninsula. Targets struck in 2024 have also included air-defence systems, airfields, command centres, naval facilities, logistics sites and the Kerch Strait crossing.
UPDATE ON UKRAINE
17 October 2024
Ukraine's General Staff confirmed Ukraine struck the Feodosia marine oil terminal in Russian-occupied Crimea on 7 October 2024. This terminal was previously targeted in March 2024 by Ukrainian uncrewed aerial vehicles.
Ukrainian attacks continue to incrementally degrade Russian military capabilities on the Crimean peninsula. Targets struck in 2024 have also included air-defence systems, airfields, command centres, naval facilities, logistics sites and the Kerch Strait crossing.
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