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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:24 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:24 am to NC_Tigah
In other words, since I can't prove that money isn't being laundered back to American NGOs, it must be happening.
Normally, when people accuse someone of something evil, they present actual evidence that it's happening, instead of trying to put the burden on the other side that it isn't happening.
Can a man prove that he isn't cheating on his wife?
Normally, when people accuse someone of something evil, they present actual evidence that it's happening, instead of trying to put the burden on the other side that it isn't happening.
Can a man prove that he isn't cheating on his wife?
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Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:47 am to NC_Tigah
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E.g., Have you seen detailed audits for US funds sent to Ukraine? No? Neither has anyone else.
Exactly the point GOP is making.
Nobody knows, but people keep saying it over and over as if it has been proven.
And yes Ukraine is corrupt, but it’s not the most corrupt nation, and it is the nation we promised to support if they gave up their nukes.
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:48 am to doubleb
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The Ukrainians parliament voted to remove the Russian puppet after he had soldiers kill protesters. We didn’t do that.
The gunfire came from a building controlled by the protestors.
Posted on 9/22/24 at 12:00 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:If he is "investing" in traditionally messy areas (e.g., Nevada strip clubs) with questionable ROI, and he's making frequent business trips to check on personnel, a transparent audit might go a long way in that regard. If the wife asks, and he refuses an accounting of behavior and/or expenditure, it would rightly raise suspicion.
Can a man prove that he isn't cheating on his wife?
But, perhaps the wife, like yourself, would be naive enough to simply assume all is on the up and up.
Posted on 9/22/24 at 12:11 pm to NC_Tigah
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How it would work if billions of dollars were sent to one of the most traditionally corrupt domiciles on the planet, then redirected there into various NGOs in order to funnel the "repurposed" funds to the CIA, or OSF, or kicked back to favorable US PACs
This makes absolutely no sense. The point of money laundering is to disguise the origin of dirty money and make it look legitimate. Why would the government need to disguise money going to the cia? Plenty of money is already appropriated there, on and off the record.
Posted on 9/22/24 at 12:25 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Russian puppet after he had soldiers kill protesters. We didn’t do that.
The gunfire came from a building controlled by the protestors.
Posted on 9/22/24 at 12:28 pm to Penrod
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I was in Georgia a few months ago. It is similar to Ukraine in that the population wants away from Russia and to turn toward the West. And their government has been subverted to lean toward Russia.
Georgia and Ukraine have the same geographic reality. But it’s more extreme in Georgias case. They share a border with Russia and Russia is vastly more powerful. That will always limit the range of acceptable political opinions in Tbilisi. The Georgians can set their marginal tax rate whatever they want it to be, they could go all in on homosexual issues, if they wanted to, but they can’t be anti Russian. Moscow will not accept that.
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I can tell you that Soros type Western NGOs are lavishing money on the university students and activists to fund them working to join Western alliances.
And it’s genuine, we’re harnessing true belief, these people believe in the 90s era western Mythology.
Posted on 9/22/24 at 12:29 pm to No Colors
Look it up
That was the determination of the Ukrainian court.
That was the determination of the Ukrainian court.
Posted on 9/22/24 at 12:44 pm to doubleb
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Baloney. These countries want to join Western alliances to be more prosperous and for protection from Russia.
It's a fact that western NGOs are stirring that pot. It's also true that the people of Georgia, Ukraine and several other former USSR nations want to tie themselves to the West, as I said in my post to which you replied.
Posted on 9/22/24 at 12:49 pm to doubleb
quote:Dumping truckloads of unaudited goods and money into a corrupt country could change that, in a big way.
And yes Ukraine is corrupt, but it’s not the most corrupt nation
Posted on 9/22/24 at 1:05 pm to No Colors
quote:Odd sense of humor.
The gunfire came from a building controlled by the protestors.
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A nearly one-million-word verdict from Ukraine’s Maidan massacre trial has recently confirmed that many Maidan activists were shot not by members of Ukraine’s Berkut special police force or other law enforcement personnel but by snipers in the far-right-controlled Hotel Ukraina and other Maidan-controlled locations a decade ago today.
The verdict, handed down on October 18, 2023, states specifically that this hotel was controlled by Maidan activists and that an armed, far-right-linked Maidan group was in the hotel and fired from it. It also confirms that there was no Russian involvement in the massacre and that no massacre orders were issued by then President Viktor Yanukovych or his ministers.
The verdict concludes that the Euromaidan was at the time of this massacre not a peaceful protest but a “rebellion” that involved the killing of Berkut and other police personnel.
LINK
Posted on 9/22/24 at 3:56 pm to NC_Tigah
So the Russian Communist Party not involved.
Posted on 9/22/24 at 5:06 pm to CitizenK
quote:You are so damn confused it's hard to unknot your threads of ""thought"".
Russian Communist Party
First off a random, unrelated, but interesting perspective setter. Worldwide petroleum exports increased slightly from 2016 through 2019. Out of kindness, I won't pursue that any further unless you'd like to.
Second, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is the opposition party in Russia.
Third, I'm fairly certain the Communist Party of Russia, was not involved. If they were, I'm fairly certain Putin would use that fact to gut them.
If you're still confused, please downvote.
Posted on 9/22/24 at 5:08 pm to Lima Whiskey
quote:The plan they were handed by the Open Society Foundation (CIA in tow) worked.
Their plan worked
Posted on 9/22/24 at 5:38 pm to REG861
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The point of money laundering is to disguise the origin of dirty money and make it look legitimate.
The guys who love to use the term "money laundering" the most have absolutely no clue what it is or how it's done.
It's just fun to put them on the spot and watch them deflect. For the basement dwellers who are somehow mad about Ukraine, "money laundering" is there cool new dog whistle.
It sounds sophisticated, especially to their target audience.....because those clowns don't know anything about it either
Posted on 9/22/24 at 5:56 pm to REG861
quote:Oh my!
Why would the government need to disguise money going to the cia?
Why would "the government" need to disguise money going to unauthorized operations?
Are you serious?
Well ... wait4it ...
.... "the government" needs to disguise money going to unauthorized operations because the operations being funded are .......... unauthorized.
Ever hear of Iran Contra?
Posted on 9/22/24 at 5:58 pm to No Colors
quote:Goodness! What an imbecile you paint yourself to be. Quite the self-portrait.
The guys who love to use the term "money laundering" the most have absolutely no clue what it is or how it's done.
Posted on 9/22/24 at 6:00 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The Ukrainians parliament voted to remove the Russian puppet after he had soldiers kill protesters. We didn’t do that.
The gunfire came from a building controlled by the protestors.
Yeah, and Ukraine invaded Russia.
Posted on 9/22/24 at 6:14 pm to Auburn1968
quote:Sarcasm which will be lost on various übermindless pursuits here.
Yeah, and Ukraine invaded Russia.
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