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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:43 am to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:43 am to
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We've seen plenty of confirmed ratios of equipment losses from both sides. Casualty rates for offenses tend to be a lot higher than for defenses. It's difficult to know anything for sure given the fog of war and propaganda, but we get glimmers of facts here some of the time. PT not so much so.


If the Russian casualty rates posted are accurate, then it’s important. But of course so are Ukrainian losses, but logic tells us that it’s less than what Russia’s are because they are making frontal assaults.

Over 30,000 casualties a month is higher than what the US saw in Vietnam from what I remember.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 12:57 pm to
TV Presenter Who Worked for Channel One Russia Charged with Violating U.S. Sanctions Imposed on Russia

Couple Allegedly Conspired to Provide Services to and Receive and Launder Over $1 Million from Sanctioned Russian Broadcaster; One Defendant Allegedly Provided Art and Antiques to Sanctioned Oligarch

The Department of Justice today unsealed two indictments charging Dimitri Simes, 76, and Anastasia Simes, 55, both of Huntly, Virginia, and Russia with two separate schemes to violate U.S. sanctions.

DOJ Press Release
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:21 pm to
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There was an outdoor Green Day concert somewhere tonight, and about 20 minutes in the band was yanked offstage abruptly by security and their crew. about 10 minutes later they came back out and finished the show.

So they just left the crowd exposed the threats, without telling them? That's a terrible look, especially post aldean in Vegas.


Yeah, that's rough... someone there said they were close to a couple of security guards who when asked said something about "copyright issues..." which is weird... but apparently the crowd was kind of freaked out by the way the band was yanked off stage so abruptly.

But, I mean, how many people would've been trampled to death in a stampede if some announcement was made?

I myself would've calmly removed myself from the crowd if I saw the band yanked away.

After the assassination attempt recently (which I know was not done with a drone), I've started to think that outdoor events might become a thing put on hold... including sporting events, until someone can perfect some anti-drone swarm technology. I would not want to be in charge of security for the Olympics.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105274 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:21 pm to
ISW had projected the Russian offensive to culminate sometime around late August to early September. Maybe they were right.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:46 pm to
No freaking way!

Russia is steamrolling Ukraine in the Donbas; the war is over, and Ukraine just doesn't realize it yet.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:35 pm to
LINK Yahoo link to article about fire breaking drones

Looks like they use molten thermite. Several videos including one at night. Pretty scary.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:41 pm to
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Over 30,000 casualties a month is higher than what the US saw in Vietnam from what I remember.

Way higher! The deadliest day for the US was 246. We had less than 60,000 killed in the entire war. The Russians already have ten times that amount.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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105274 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:41 pm to
Should be very effective against oil tanks.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1859 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:44 pm to
Reminds me of napalm in Vietnam.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
8163 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:45 pm to
How freaking scary would that be to see one of those spitting fire and its headed your way.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105274 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:49 pm to
Probably as much a psychological weapon as anyhing.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:52 pm to
No doubt.

They should name that model "Dracarys"...seems appropriate
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55439 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:52 pm to
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Looks like they use molten thermite. Several videos including one at night. Pretty scary.

Yep, and we are letting undocumented aliens enter by the millions. I wonder how many will be setting up drone fleets to attack our infrastructure.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:08 pm to
Welcome to the future... it sucks.

People are still laugh reacting at the Green Day concert thing "over a tiny drone," and insisting that "military drones" are the size of airplanes. When people point out that hobby drones have been weaponized, the reaction is "well, we don't live in Ukraine."

This is how 9/11 happened. A failure of imagination... in realizing terrorists and bad actors have more imagination than security forces or the public. The recent Hamas attacks on Israel happened because Hamas used paragliders to fly over the walls, defenses and security checkpoints... nobody ever imagined they'd think of that... 9/11 happened because nobody thought anybody would think to turn a jet into a kamikaze bomb.

There's a difference between situational awareness and honest risk assessment vs paranoia. The general public does not know that difference... I hope our security agencies get better at it.

It appears someone in Green Day's crew is better at reacting to a possible threat than the Secret Service.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:17 pm to
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Yep, and we are letting undocumented aliens enter by the millions. I wonder how many will be setting up drone fleets to attack our infrastructure.


We're letting undocumented aliens enter by the millions through the processing center on the Rio Grande? If undocumented millions are entering the country they're doing in areas that we don't know about... not surrendering to the border patrol to be processed and claim asylum. I just think this point has to be clarified... it is different. Just by the fact that ill actors would not want to be noticed they will evade us knowing about them. How much coastline do we have in this country? How long is the border with Canada? How many unoccupied areas does that border pass through? But this is probably something for the PT board.

But yes, drones are a huge threat. To infrastructure... to officials as assassination targets... to heavily attended events.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13216 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:31 pm to
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If the Russian casualty rates posted are accurate, then it’s important. But of course so are Ukrainian losses, but logic tells us that it’s less than what Russia’s are because they are making frontal assaults.

I agree but it seems to me Russia is just fine with a 2:1 or even 3:1 ratio.

It's what Russia does.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45549 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:40 pm to
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No freaking way! Russia is steamrolling Ukraine in the Donbas; the war is over, and Ukraine just doesn't realize it yet.


The eastern front is collapsing and Kharkiv will fall in less than 48 hours.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:45 pm to
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Over 30,000 casualties a month is higher than what the US saw in Vietnam from what I remember.


Men going home crippled or in boxes in such high numbers is going to penetrate Putin's propaganda veil.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:47 pm to
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1. I will believe it when someone other than the Ukrainian military says it. Need multiple sources.

2. If it’s true then it proves me right. Within the past two weeks, I have said that Ukraine would move one of its crack units in and stabilize the front. Within the last week militaryland.net has shown that the 93rd mechanized brigade move from being in reserve to being in the Pokrovsk frontline.
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