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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:40 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:40 pm to crazy4lsu
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Do you know what action actually ensured that defense companies are going to have consistent work for the next few decades?
So people don't take advantage of situations that are presented to them that they did not cause?
Weird.
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Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:42 pm to crazy4lsu
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I mean, he definitely heard the 'war profiteering' thing from someone else and now he's repeating it with his entire heart. But it's a nonsensical position because the increase in spending in Europe was a contentious point of debate right up until February of 2022.
So the "war profiteering" didn't actually start until the actual war started? Wow, you must be a genius for figuring that one out
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:45 pm to VolSquatch
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So people don't take advantage of situations that are presented to them that they did not cause?
How are you this stupid? And how is this even a response to my point? You said defense contractors could be accused of war profiteering by virtue of prolonging the war, which somehow you fit into your idiotic definition of money laundering, and can't seem to put two and two together.
As in, you are blaming private entities and making them responsible for a geopolitical situation they did not cause. What is driving the spending is the geopolitical situation, not anything else. Do you know how we know this?
By this stilted logic, any attempt by any country anywhere to reorganize their military is technically 'war profiteering' which is so fricking stupid I guess it isn't a surprise that you believe it.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:45 pm to No Colors
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The more he gets called out for his bullshite, the more he gaslights and doubles down.
What did I double down on? An argument for a situation I said myself was unlikely?
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:49 pm to No Colors
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He seems to come by it naturally. The more he gets called out for his bullshite, the more he gaslights and doubles down. He's flaling.
Seriously GFY you pro war guys are the worst of the worst on TD. I commend VolSquatch for having the energy to counter the neocon / shitlib butchery that you folks spew on an hourly basis.
Can't wait until this awful war is ended by the next administration
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:50 pm to crazy4lsu
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You said defense contractors could be accused of war profiteering by virtue of prolonging the war, which somehow you fit into your idiotic definition of money laundering, and can't seem to put two and two together.
I'll post my own comments, maybe you will actually read it this time
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The real "laundering" that isn't technically laundering (I think most people mean war profiteering when they say this)
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intentionally prolonging the war so arms manufacturers/the MIC sell more stuff, and certain politicians get X amount off the top of the profits, or a family member gets a high paying job there, or they get a board seat when they are out of congress, etc etc.
So the war profiteering would be if our politicians were getting a cut of profits off the top from sales as a result of the war in my scenario, which I said I don't even strongly believe myself
And also this little nugget from the start, that most people seemed to skip over
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I will lay out a couple of scenarios, with the caveat that I wouldn't be surprised if it were happening but also don't believe strongly that it is. There are actually a couple of avenues you could take with the logic.
So the only thing I actually even said in my post in terms of things I believe have actually happened is that some Ukrainians have likely stolen aid money (which there was already an example of just today) and that I didn't know either way if it was actually widespread or not.
No Colors asked how it would work, I laid out hypotheticals.
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:52 pm to VolSquatch
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intentionally prolonging the war so arms manufacturers/the MIC sell more stuff, and certain politicians get X amount off the top of the profits, or a family member gets a high paying job there, or they get a board seat when they are out of congress, etc etc
Do you think this is a good point?
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So the only thing I actually even said in my post in terms of things I believe have actually happened is that some Ukrainians have likely stolen aid money
Oh wow, truly some high level analysis.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:53 pm to VolSquatch
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So the "war profiteering" didn't actually start until the actual war started? Wow, you must be a genius for figuring that one out
Talk about missing my point. Do you know why we can say this, in a definitive sense? I literally answered it for you in my post.
Do you often talk about things you clearly don't understand?
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:53 pm to SirWinston
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Seriously GFY you pro war guys are the worst of the worst on TD. I commend VolSquatch for having the energy to counter the neocon / shitlib butchery that you folks spew on an hourly basis.
We don't always agree but I appreciate people who put our own country first
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:54 pm to crazy4lsu
Your poor swamp people college education is really showing
You were attacking a position I didn't even have
You were attacking a position I didn't even have
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:55 pm to VolSquatch
About what I expected given the content of your posts. Run along, ya weird bitch.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:56 pm to crazy4lsu
You can't even fricking read
I wish you were crazy4literacy
I wish you were crazy4literacy
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:57 pm to VolSquatch
Lol again, it isn't a surprise you can't hang with me. Run along dude.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:58 pm to crazy4lsu
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Lol again, it isn't a surprise you can't hang with me. Run along dude.
You literally thought I claimed the MIC companies were stealing money when the entire point was about US politicians
Posted on 7/19/24 at 2:01 pm to VolSquatch
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You literally thought I claimed the MIC companies were stealing money when the entire point was about US politicians
Damn dude, you do have a problem with reading comprehension. I was responding to your point about 'war profiteering' specifically. Read my posts again. I never said anything about the MIC stealing anything.
It's crazy you typed this out given what else you've typed out in this thread. Jesus, you really are dim.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 2:03 pm to crazy4lsu
This you?
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You said defense contractors could be accused of war profiteering by virtue of prolonging the war,
Posted on 7/19/24 at 2:04 pm to VolSquatch
You are wasting your time with him. He is another one of those radical woke leftists. He will argue with a damn stop sign.
If only Lee B had a son.
If only Lee B had a son.
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 7/19/24 at 2:06 pm to VolSquatch
Yes, and apparently you can't read the entire paragraph. I'm addressing my understanding of your point, as you brought up 'war profiteering' within the question of how Ukraine was money laundering, no?
I think I see what you are missing, and frankly it is amazing you can't comprehend very simple arguments. My dear lord.
I think I see what you are missing, and frankly it is amazing you can't comprehend very simple arguments. My dear lord.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 2:07 pm to AU86
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You are wasting your time with him. He is another one of those radical woke leftists. He will argue with a damn stop sign.
Lol muh woke mind virus!
Posted on 7/19/24 at 2:07 pm to AU86
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You are wasting your time with him. He is another one of those radical leftists.
I like to argue.
I made those hypotheticals partially because they would cause an argument, and I think its good to try to defend positions you might not personally believe yourself, or are agnostic about, to see the other side.
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