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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:15 am to
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:15 am to
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I’m not some sort of war crime denier
i didnt say you were. this place has just had a weird reaction to all of this and there is a decent amount of people on here who are acting like every single geopolitical decision we have made throughout our entire 250 year history as a country should be put through the microscope and it isnt our place to say anything about anything to anyone because we may have done a shitty thing back in like the 70s

and this morning that randomly went to the bosnian war and there are people on here either outright denying the bosnian genocide ever happened or instead are saying that what happened wasnt really a genocide because it didnt reach some arbitrary number in their eyes

both opinions are really shitty and are not backed up by anything. not saying you are one of those people, but there definitely are those on here and thats who i was responding to in the first place
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 10:19 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:17 am to
It appears as though Russia's new law regarding 15 years in prison for spreading "misinformation" about the war will also include news outlets. At least one Russian outlet has said they will no longer cover the war directly. They will only cover the sanctions and ramifications for Russia, no news from the field.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:20 am to
On a funny note, I had a Bosnian neighbor who was from Tuzla, which is where Hillary Clinton said she dodged sniper fire while getting off the plane. She said the whole story was bullshite and would get worked up when someone mentioned her name. Her husband would get a few beers deep, drop an H bomb, and watch her lose her mind. It was entertaining
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:22 am to
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It appears as though Russia's new law regarding 15 years in prison for spreading "misinformation" about the war will also include news outlets. At least one Russian outlet has said they will no longer cover the war directly. They will only cover the sanctions and ramifications for Russia, no news from the field.



*Justin Trudeau taking diligent notes*
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:24 am to
Posted by Palantir
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:27 am to
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drop an H bomb, and watch her lose her mind. It was entertaining
I'm pretty sure you drop an H bomb at most settings and you get the same result
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 10:28 am
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:33 am to
Poliboard is saying Zelensky fled to Poland. Anybody got anything on that?
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:36 am to
Fake news
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:37 am to
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Fake news

Thanks for the detailed response.
Posted by Palantir
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:38 am to
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Thanks for the detailed response.
I mean, so what's the source for the PT news that he fled to Poland?
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:39 am to
Weren't they using the term Ethnic cleansing with the stuff in Bosnia... Basically like the Michelob ultra version of genocide cause they didn't want to say genocide.
Posted by Palmetto98
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:39 am to
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Poliboard is saying Zelensky fled to Poland. Anybody got anything on that?


He’s chilling with the ghost of Kiev and ghosts of snake island
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:40 am to
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Poliboard is saying Zelensky fled to Poland. Anybody got anything on that?



My quick Google search makes it seem like this just coming from the Russian Duma

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Moscow [Russia], March 4 (ANI): Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Friday (local time) has left Ukraine and is currently in Poland, said Russian State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin, reported Sputnik.
"Zelensky left Ukraine. Deputies of the Verkhovna Rada said that they could not get to him in Lvov", he wrote on his Telegram channel. "He is now in Poland".
Several Western countries have expressed concern in regard to Zelensky's safety. Particularly, French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said Paris was ready "to help him if necessary", reported Sputnik.
It was also reported that the United States offered him evacuation, but he refused.
Reports that Zelensky left the Ukrainian capital earlier last week, with the president refuting them and posting several video messages in which he said he remained in Kyiv.
As per fresh reports, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Friday that there is "no talk" of Russia and Ukraine signing any formal documents after Thursday's second round of talks between the two sides.
"The second round of negotiations took place yesterday," Peskov said in a conference call with reporters. "Now it is up to these negotiations. It is an opportunity for the delegations to convey to each other all the elements of positions without unnecessary intermediaries. Elements of our position have been brought to the attention of the Ukrainian side," CNN reported.
Asked about the possibility of the two sides signing any high-level agreements, Peskov said, "There is no talk of (signing) any documents yet. The talks that took place were a good opportunity to clearly convey our vision of this problem,"CNN reported. (ANI)

Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:40 am to
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I mean, so what's the source for the PT news that he fled to Poland?


Apparently the Russians are claiming it. Just asking for substantive rebuttal or proof that the claim is either true or false other than "they're lying cuz they're Russian".
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:41 am to
All I can find is the Russian Parliamentary Speaker making that claim and the Ukrainians denying it saying he is still in Kyiv.
Posted by Palantir
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:43 am to
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Apparently the Russians are claiming it. Just asking for substantive rebuttal or proof that the claim is either true or false other than "they're lying cuz they're Russian".
I hear ya. If the Duma says it, the onus is on us to prove it.
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:45 am to
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quote:
Apparently the Russians are claiming it. Just asking for substantive rebuttal or proof that the claim is either true or false other than "they're lying cuz they're Russian".
I hear ya. If the Duma says it, the onus is on us to prove it.


Isn't this were we are supposed to start screaming PROPAGANDA!!!
Posted by Palantir
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:45 am to
I don't even know anymore man, this thread has turned into the spiderman meme
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:47 am to
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I hear ya. If the Duma says it, the onus is on us to prove it.


All I asked for was a little detailed info on whether the claims were true or false, not some passive aggressive swipe. FTR, this is also an acceptable response:
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All I can find is the Russian Parliamentary Speaker making that claim and the Ukrainians denying it saying he is still in Kyiv.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:47 am to
No, because putin literally just made it illegal to put out fake news regarding the war. They wouldnt want to risk 15 years in prison imo
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