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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 10/14/23 at 5:27 pm to Errerrerrwere
Posted on 10/14/23 at 5:27 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Do you want me to really make you look stupid and post the video of the words coming out of her mouth?
I want you to post this video. I demand that you post this video.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 6:13 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Understanding that logic?
Says the guy who claims Russia conquered the entire donbas
Eta
And claims that Russia has everything it wants despite Russia launching an offensive campaign
This post was edited on 10/14/23 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 10/14/23 at 6:28 pm to LSU7096
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How is the Russian Navy doing in war against a. Country with no Navy?
I don't really care.
But here's to your stalemate!
Posted on 10/14/23 at 6:41 pm to RuLSU
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I want you to post this video. I demand that you post this video.
Here ya go! Looks like google scrubbed it but I found it again.
only place I could still find it
Posted on 10/14/23 at 6:43 pm to StormyMcMan
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Says the guy who claims Russia conquered the entire donbas
The entirety of what they needed. Yes.
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And claims that Russia has everything it wants despite Russia launching an offensive campaign
The US is out. Book it. Putin will do what he wants. And the poor Ukrainian will be left holding the bag. Just like the Kurds.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 6:55 pm to Errerrerrwere
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The US is out. Book it. Putin will do what he wants. And the poor Ukrainian will be left holding the bag. Just like the Kurds
You guys heard it here first. Kiev in 48! Team Iran/ North Korea/ Hamas finna eat!
This post was edited on 10/14/23 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 10/14/23 at 7:01 pm to REG861
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Team Iran/ North Korea/ Hamas finna eat!
See. This is the best example of your adolescent logic, propagandist dogma, delusion, dishonesty and flat out laziness.
No one has mentioned Hamas, Iran and North fricking Korea!
Jesus tap dancing Christ
Posted on 10/14/23 at 7:29 pm to Errerrerrwere
Russian crypto exchange serves gangs, rich Russians and Hamas terrorists
Economichna Pravda — Saturday, 14 October 2023, 17:40
Despite US sanctions, Garantex, a Russian cryptocurrency exchange, continues to serve criminal gangs, wealthy Russian citizens, and a Hamas-linked terrorist group.
Source: The Wall Street Journal
Details: The Wall Street Journal reported that last year, the US imposed sanctions on a Moscow-based cryptocurrency exchange to prevent Russian citizens from circumventing the financial restrictions imposed after Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
However, Garantex became the main channel Russian citizens use to move money in and out of the country, sources close to Garantex told The WSJ.
"Garantex’s growing role as a global conduit for illicit funds was underscored this month by evidence that Palestinian militants in part financed their operations through crypto in the lead-up to the Oct. 7 attacks in Israel," The WSJ reported.
"Digital wallets controlled by Palestinian Islamic Jihad, which joined Hamas in the attacks, received a portion of $93 million via Garantex," the report reads.
Ukrainska Pravda
Economichna Pravda — Saturday, 14 October 2023, 17:40
Despite US sanctions, Garantex, a Russian cryptocurrency exchange, continues to serve criminal gangs, wealthy Russian citizens, and a Hamas-linked terrorist group.
Source: The Wall Street Journal
Details: The Wall Street Journal reported that last year, the US imposed sanctions on a Moscow-based cryptocurrency exchange to prevent Russian citizens from circumventing the financial restrictions imposed after Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
However, Garantex became the main channel Russian citizens use to move money in and out of the country, sources close to Garantex told The WSJ.
"Garantex’s growing role as a global conduit for illicit funds was underscored this month by evidence that Palestinian militants in part financed their operations through crypto in the lead-up to the Oct. 7 attacks in Israel," The WSJ reported.
"Digital wallets controlled by Palestinian Islamic Jihad, which joined Hamas in the attacks, received a portion of $93 million via Garantex," the report reads.
Ukrainska Pravda
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:12 pm to Errerrerrwere
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No one has mentioned Hamas, Iran and North fricking Korea
And i didn't mention the US or the Kurds so what's your point
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:24 pm to StormyMcMan
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And i didn't mention the US or the Kurds so what's your point
Another lazy argument.
You are so used to whipping people down with childish insults and rhetoric that you have no idea how to argue a point anymore. Thus, proving this thread is by it's very definition- an echo chamber.
The US has to be mentioned with Ukraine because it's a proxy war that we started, funded and financing.
The use of Kurds was an example of the above statement and what will soon happen to the Ukrainian people.
Spitting out that I am a simp for North Korea, Hamas, and Iran when arguing for more money and weapons for Ukraine is flat out lazy and dishonest.
If that's your mo than you've just ousted yourself as a hack.
But you knew that already.
Congratulations.
This post was edited on 10/14/23 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:28 pm to Errerrerrwere
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The US has to be mentioned with Ukraine because it's a proxy war that we started, funded and financing.
The use of Kurds was an example of the above statement and what will soon happen to the Ukrainian people.
Spitting out that I am a simp for North Korea, Hamas, and Iran when arguing for more money and weapons for Ukraine is flat out lazy and dishonest.
Meh that's a lazy argument
One doesn't need to mention the US or the Kurds to talk about battlefield frontlines and the changes therein.
But if you insist on mentioning them because they are providing weaponry and Intel to Ukraine one must also mention Iran and North Korea
If that's your mo than you've just ousted yourself as a hack.
But you knew that already.
Congratulations.
This post was edited on 10/14/23 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:36 pm to StormyMcMan
ISW Update
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US and Ukrainian officials reported on October 12 and 13 that they anticipated the Russian offensive operations around Avdiivka and expressed confidence in Ukrainian defenses. US National Security Council Spokesperson John Kirby reported on October 13 that the new Russian offensive operations near Lyman and Avdiivka “did not come as a surprise.”[1] Kirby stated that the US is confident that Ukrainian forces will repel these Russian attacks.[2] Kirby also reported that Russian forces appear to be using human wave tactics, wherein the Russian military uses masses of poorly trained and equipped Russian soldiers to attempt to advance - the same practice Russian forces used during their failed winter offensive in winter 2023.
The Russian information space remains divided on the prospects of Russian successes near Avdiivka and on current Ukrainian capabilities. Geolocated footage published on October 13 indicates that Russian forces marginally advanced north of the waste heap north of Avdiivka.[7] Additional geolocated footage published on October 14 indicates that Russian forces also advanced south of Avdiivka.[8] Some Russian sources claimed on October 13 and 14 that Ukrainian defensive fortifications pose a significant challenge to Russian advances around Avdiivka.[9] Some Russian sources indicated that Russian problems with medical support are also impeding Russian advances in the Avdiivka area. One Russian source claimed on October 12 that there is a shortage of surgeons in occupied Horlivka and Donetsk City near Avdiivka and called on Russian doctors to travel to the front to help treat wounded Russian soldiers.
Other Russian milbloggers continued to praise Russian offensive efforts on October 13 and 14 and reiterated the Kremlin’s desired narrative that the Ukrainian counteroffensive is over.[12] One Russian milblogger warned that Russian officials and sources have likely dismissed the Ukrainian counteroffensive too quickly and noted that it is too early to determine if the Russian attacks near Avdiivka will develop into an organized offensive operation.[13]
Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in eastern and southern Ukraine on October 14 and advanced west of Donetsk City. Geolocated footage published on October 14 indicates that Ukrainian forces advanced north of Marinka (just west of Donetsk City).[14] Ukrainian and Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces continued to attack Russian positions on Bakhmut’s southern flank.[15] A Russian milblogger claimed that Ukrainian forces marginally advanced west of Robotyne (10km south of Orikhiv) towards Rivne (24km southwest of Orikhiv) in western Zaporizhia Oblast.[16]
The Russian Black Sea Fleet (BSF) will maintain some vessels at its main Sevastopol naval base amid Ukrainian strikes on Russian vessels, as the Russian Navy’s main drydock on the Black Sea is in Sevastopol. Ukrainian Naval Spokesperson Captain Third Rank Dmytro Pletenchuk reported on October 14 that Ukrainian forces struck the Russian Professor Nikolai Muru tugboat and the Pavel Derzhavin patrol ship on October 13 and stated that the BSF has redeployed vessels from Sevastopol to Kerch, Feodosia, and Novorossiysk (in mainland Russia).[17] Pletenchuk noted that Russian forces continue to use the Sevastopol base because there are not enough piers to accommodate vessels at other ports, however.
Armenia ratified the International Criminal Court’s (ICC) Rome Statute on October 14, obliging Armenia to arrest Russian President Vladimir Putin if he enters Armenia due to the ICC’s outstanding arrest warrant, directly after Putin’s efforts on October 13 to claim that the Russia-Armenia relationship is not deteriorating.[21] Armenian President Vahagn Khachaturyan signed the corresponding degree as well as a statement recognizing the ICC’s jurisdiction on October 14 following the Armenian parliament‘s vote to ratify the statute on October 3.[22] Ratifying the Rome Statute notably legally obliges Armenia to arrest Putin on behalf of the ICC, which issued a warrant for Putin’s arrest on March 17, 2023, for illegally deporting Ukrainian children from occupied Ukraine to Russia.[23] Armenia’s ratification of the Rome Statute comes one day after Putin boasted about the strength of Russia-Armenia relations during the meeting of the Council of Heads of State of the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) Member States.[24]
Ukrainian forces will reportedly begin training on F-16 fighter jets in the US next week. Politico reported on October 13 that anonymous US officials stated that a “small number” of Ukrainian pilots will begin F-16 fighter jet training next week at Morris Air National Guard Base in Arizona after having completed English language training at Lackland Air Force Base in Texas.[25] One US official reportedly stated that the training may be accelerated due to Ukrainian forces’ urgent need for F-16 fighter jets.
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Key Takeaways:
US and Ukrainian officials reported on October 12 and 13 that they anticipated the Russian offensive operations around Avdiivka and expressed confidence in Ukrainian defenses.
The Russian information space remains divided on the prospects of Russian successes near Avdiivka and on current Ukrainian capabilities.
Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in eastern and southern Ukraine on October 14 and advanced west of Donetsk City.
The Russian Black Sea Fleet (BSF) will maintain some vessels at its main Sevastopol naval base amid Ukrainian strikes on Russian vessels, as the Russian Navy’s main dry dock on the Black Sea is in Sevastopol.
Armenia ratified the International Criminal Court’s (ICC) Rome Statute on October 14, obliging Armenia to arrest Russian President Vladimir Putin if he enters Armenia due to the ICC’s outstanding arrest warrant, directly after Putin’s efforts on October 13 to claim that the Russia-Armenia relationship is not deteriorating.
Ukrainian forces will reportedly begin training on F-16 fighter jets in the US next week.
Russian forces conducted offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line, near Bakhmut, along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line, in the western Donetsk-eastern Zaporizhia Oblast border area, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast and advanced in some areas.
Relatives of Russian mobilized men and recruited prisoners continue to complain that the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and the Russian military command are mistreating troops on the frontlines – especially on the Kupyansk-Svatove line.
Russian officials and occupation authorities continue to establish patronage programs between Russian federal subjects and occupied areas in order to integrate occupied territories into Russia.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:15 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Spitting out that I am a simp for North Korea, Hamas, and Iran when arguing for more money and weapons for Ukraine is flat out lazy and dishonest
This is a proxy war. Russias proxy is Iran. Iran is objectively russias ally in this proxy war. All the melting in the world won’t change that.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:23 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Here ya go! Looks like google scrubbed it but I found it again.
only place I could still find it
I demanded the video and you delivered.
You delivered a Jimmy Dore commentary on an interview. The interviewer said, "You've only reclaimed 1%" and Lesia Vasylenko agreed.
I think they meant 1% re-taken since the start of the counter-offensive.
This post was edited on 10/14/23 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:58 pm to RuLSU
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I think they meant 1% re-taken since the start of the counter-offensive
Yeah. And I guess we need to ask ourselves is can the time 180 or so days and the money $113B since the counter offensive be used better here stateside than gaining only 1% of the territory taken?
I really am not trying to troll; but it doesn't make sense anymore.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 12:28 am
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:07 pm to Errerrerrwere
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And I guess we need to ask ourselves is can the time 180 or so days and the money $200B since the counter offensive be used better here stateside than gaining only 1% of the territory taken?
You might want to double check your numbers if you have any actual truth in your "not a troll" statement seeing as the US has "only" given 113B in aid since Feb 2022. And most of that is actually paid to US companies to replenish stocks, not cash money to Ukraine.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:28 am to StormyMcMan
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You might want to double check your numbers if you have any actual truth in your "not a troll" statement seeing as the US has "only" given 113B in aid since Feb 2022. And most of that is actually paid to US companies to replenish stocks, not cash money to Ukraine.
I edited it.
But I think we can all agree that a half a trillion dollars should have a better ROI, right?
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 12:52 am
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:52 am to Errerrerrwere
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But I think qe can all agree that a half a trillion dollars should have a better ROI, right?
First, it's not half a trillion. You're disingenuous at best.
Second: the IRR is excellent. We spent far more to break the USSR in the 70s and 80s. This failed invasion will be the end of Putin and Russia as a fools gold alternative to the western power structure.
Third: you keep talking about money. Sometimes things aren't about money. Sometimes it's about right and wrong. And standing up to naked violent aggression. It's the right thing to do.
Fourth: since you want to focus on the money, let me point this out. The economies of the countries supporting Ukraine are 25x greater than Russia's. If you want to play the game of who can finance this war the longest, then that's easy.
Finally: the only thing we can all agree on is that you're a paid shill for the Russia/Iran/North Korea/Cuba/Hamas axis. There have been at least a dozen of your alters in this trend. They all eventually vanish. You will too.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 1:36 am
Posted on 10/15/23 at 5:29 am to No Colors
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 15 October 2023
Rail logistics continues to be a vital component in sustaining Russia's invasion. Russia uses its rail networks to move ammunition, armour, fuel and personnel into Ukraine.
The rail network in occupied Ukraine remains largely viable but vulnerable to sporadic interdiction by Ukrainian artillery, air launched missiles and sabotage. In previous conflicts, attrition of rail transportation has required focused, sustained, and repeated attack by air and/or ground forces.
Russia almost certainly continues to maintain and improve its rail lines of communication in Ukraine and is constructing a new railway line to Mariupol which will reduce travel times for supplies to the Zaporizhzhia front. Russia is using civilian contractors and equipment to complete this project, likely calculating this will complicate targeting efforts and preserve military railway troop capabilities for urgent tasks elsewhere. The new line falls within the notional range of Ukrainian long-range precision strike systems.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 15 October 2023
Rail logistics continues to be a vital component in sustaining Russia's invasion. Russia uses its rail networks to move ammunition, armour, fuel and personnel into Ukraine.
The rail network in occupied Ukraine remains largely viable but vulnerable to sporadic interdiction by Ukrainian artillery, air launched missiles and sabotage. In previous conflicts, attrition of rail transportation has required focused, sustained, and repeated attack by air and/or ground forces.
Russia almost certainly continues to maintain and improve its rail lines of communication in Ukraine and is constructing a new railway line to Mariupol which will reduce travel times for supplies to the Zaporizhzhia front. Russia is using civilian contractors and equipment to complete this project, likely calculating this will complicate targeting efforts and preserve military railway troop capabilities for urgent tasks elsewhere. The new line falls within the notional range of Ukrainian long-range precision strike systems.
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