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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/27/22 at 11:56 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 11:56 pm to
Speaking of tracks, I'm surprised at how narrow they seem to be on a number of their armored vehicles. Forgot the lessons of WW2 apparently.

Have seen a few picks of tanks buried in the mud so far. Apparently it's been fairly warm as the ground isn't frozen.
Posted by Snafu Sam
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 11:56 pm to
Are you telling me that Russia brought absolutely zero air defense systems with then on this fight?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 11:58 pm to
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TB2 UCAV strike, presumably with a MAM munition, on a Russian Buk system.


In accordance with the general military mantra of "shoot the funny stuff first" if your vehicle looks significantly different than the rest in your column and you stop GTFO of it until you start going again.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 11:58 pm to
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Are you telling me that Russia brought absolutely zero air defense systems with then on this fight?

Well, 4 days in and they don't have air superiority in any of the cities they're actively engaged in. On top of that, they can't seem to detect a drone tracking their convoys until something goes boom.

Take from that what you will.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:00 am to
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Speaking of tracks, I'm surprised at how narrow they seem to be on a number of their armored vehicles. Forgot the lessons of WW2 apparently.

Just right for retrofitting onto a farm tractor, though.
Posted by Celtic Tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:00 am to
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I've also seen video of the direct results of one of these drone strikes. It cannot be posted here.


yeah, that one guy walking back to that tank/missile platform or whatever that was is probably not going to enjoy mardi gras.

it is crazy how video game-like those vids are, how they make watching a human die seem so removed from the aftermath. that said, invade a sovereign nation and you should not be surprised when they tell you to go frick yourself.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:02 am to
And this from @sentdefender:

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After the last few days of Ukrainian Air and Drone Strikes on Russian Logistics/Armor Columns why are they still not spreading out their Equipment, 1 Large Bomb or Rocket could blow up nearly half of this Convoy, they are clearly not learning or changing up their Tactics.

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LINK
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 12:03 am
Posted by Snafu Sam
Member since Feb 2022
108 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:03 am to
The Ukranians clearly have better drones than that Turkish piece of shite then because it’s not capable of carrying ordinance
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:10 am to
The drones they are using are Turkish made and they can carry munitions/ordinance.

LINK
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 12:11 am
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:14 am to
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And this from @sentdefender: quote: After the last few days of Ukrainian Air and Drone Strikes on Russian Logistics/Armor Columns why are they still not spreading out their Equipment, 1 Large Bomb or Rocket could blow up nearly half of this Convoy, they are clearly not learning or changing up their Tactics. quote: LINK


Holy shite. First sergeants the world over having a heart attack at that video.

As a bit of an aside, it’s also why I always roll my eyes at the “US military is too woke to be effective” bullshite I see on here and elsewhere. Besides vast equipment and spending advantages, we are so much better trained and so much more battle-tested compared to any serious competitor that it’s a joke. Yea, I don’t like that woke shite any more than the next guy, but it takes up like one hour a month and you go on your day.

Ill also make an educated guess and say that regular Chinese outfits wouldn’t look much better than this, either.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:14 am to
Some of this kind of stuff like this did make me look into history more of these two. Wondering why so many Ukrainians died in 1933 made me read more about the Holodmor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor?wprov=sfti1

The forgotten Holocaust: How Stalin starved four million to death in a grotesque Marxist experiment - which many in Russia STILL deny

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Survival was a moral as well as a physical struggle. A woman doctor wrote to a friend in June 1933 that she had not yet become a cannibal, but was "not sure that I shall not be one by the time my letter reaches you." The good people died first. Those who refused to steal or to prostitute themselves died. Those who gave food to others died. Those who refused to eat corpses died. Those who refused to kill their fellow man died. Parents who resisted cannibalism died before their children did.


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And behind it was not just one man — Stalin, who ruled the Soviet Union from the mid-Twenties to 1953 — but an entire warped ideology which sought to remake a peasant society according to a Utopian Communist blueprint.

Even now, in an age when we are regularly assailed by images of horror and suffering, the details of the Holodmor are heartbreaking.

Starving children, mass graves, vigilantes, even cannibalism: the famine saw human nature stripped to the bone.

‘I was so frightened by what had happened that I could not talk for several days,’ recalled one woman who escaped after her emaciated body was mistakenly thrown into a mass grave. ‘I saw dead bodies in my dreams. And I screamed a lot.’

Today, almost unbelievably, there are still those who deny the famine happened. Indeed, in Vladimir Putin’s Russia, the architect of the famine, Stalin, is routinely presented not as a monstrous tyrant but as an admirably strong leader who made Russia walk tall in the world.

A few years ago, Mr Putin even told a press conference there was nothing wrong with restoring the statues of a man who claimed millions of lives. Stalin, he claimed, was no different to England’s Parliamentarian leader Oliver Cromwell — a comparison simply grotesque in its inaccuracy.




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Starting from the early 1930s, the Ukrainization policies were abruptly and bloodily reversed. "Ukrainian bourgeois nationalism" was declared to be the primary problem in Ukraine. Many Ukrainian newspapers, publications, and schools were switched to Russian. The vast majority of leading scholars and cultural leaders of Ukraine were purged, as were the "Ukrainianized" and "Ukrainianizing" portions of the Communist party. Major repression started in 1929–30, when a large group of Ukrainian intelligentsia was arrested and most were executed. In Ukrainian history, this group is often referred to as "Executed Renaissance" The terror peaked in 1933 during the Holodomor, four to five years before the Soviet-wide "Great Purge", which, for Ukraine, was a second blow. The vast majority of leading scholars and cultural leaders of Ukraine were liquidated, as were the "Ukrainianized" and "Ukrainianizing" portions of the Communist party.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60248 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:15 am to
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@KyivIndependent

The situation in Kyiv is under Ukrainian control, according to Ukraine’s Armed Forces.

“All Russian efforts to occupy it have failed,” their statement reads.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:19 am to
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Holy shite. First sergeants the world over having a heart attack at that video.

Russia will be forced to make some serious changes if those EU jets can get in the air and start doing work. They've been able to stage relatively unchecked in large numbers just like the video you just watched. If the Ukranians can take out some of those, there's no way Russia can continue doing what they are doing.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30632 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:24 am to
That baw been eyeing up a Claas like this for years.

Posted by Snafu Sam
Member since Feb 2022
108 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:24 am to
I think the fact that we’re still getting Twitter feeds and videos out of Ukraine is russias biggest failure s far.

I’d heard so much about russias vaunted EW/Cover capabilities prior to this invasion
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:26 am to
Anyone here a fan of Ukranian rap? This dude is supposedly one of the most popular rap/hiphop artists in the country. I will say.....I like it much more than 99% of our rap and can understand it about the same.

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LINK
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:27 am to
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I think the fact that we’re still getting Twitter feeds and videos out of Ukraine is russias biggest failure s far.


That's a surprise to me as well. I'm wondering if it is deliberate at this point.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30632 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:29 am to
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This dude is supposedly one of the most popular rap/hiphop artists in the country.


Sounds more like a mildly talented operatic tenor.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:30 am to
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Sounds more like a mildly talented operatic tenor.

It is rap....until I learn Ukranian/Russian. Don't go stepping on my narrative.

ETA: In all seriousness, he doesn't sound half bad.
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 12:31 am
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
7954 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:32 am to
Went to a birthday dinner turned gathering for my fiance's parents tonight. Half Russian, half Ukrainian (and a few Americans, including myself) and everyone was on the same page.

The Russians were embarassed to be Russian and felt such shame for what their country was doing. The Ukrainians had so much resolve and strength.

I saw people band together tonight in friendship and I know that the people fighting in Ukraine have the support of the Russian people. Putin has lost his mind and the world is going to hold him accountable for this.
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