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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:24 pm to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:24 pm to
US Transportation Command announces that they are in the process delivering the first shipment of Bradleys (over 60 vehicles) to Ukraine.



From the various photos that were shared on the BFVs getting loaded on the ship, it was noted that:

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Looks like Ukraine is getting the upgraded M2A2-ODS SA version of the Bradley rather than the M2A2-ODS.

The Situation Awareness upgrade includes several improvements over the M2A2-ODS including the driver camera and upgraded sights.


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Posted by OutsideObserver
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:29 pm to
I wouldn't look at it just in context of Crimea if those supply lines are accurate. The rail line heading north looks like it supplies a large part of their central front via truck.

If similar strikes can be carried out further north around Mariupol it would mean a considerable part of the Russian centre would be solely dependent on trucked supply from the coastal ports.

This could be the opening for the long awaited offensive to start squeezing the Russians.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:05 pm to
France, Australia to supply Ukraine with artillery shells

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PARIS (AP) — France and Australia announced Monday plans to jointly produce and send several thousand 155-millimeter artillery shells to Ukraine, starting in the coming weeks.

The multimillion-dollar plan is the latest offer of support for Ukraine by both countries, and comes amid growing appeals from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy for heavy weaponry and long-term supplies from Western allies nearly a year into Russia’s war on Ukraine.

The joint announcement, made by Australian Defense Minister Richard Marles and French Defense Minister Sebastien Lecornu, also appeared aimed at sending a signal that the two countries have overcome a damaging dispute over submarines.

Australia secretly jettisoned a $60 billion contract for conventional French submarines in 2021 in favor of a deal for nuclear-powered submarines made by the U.S. and Britain instead, deeply harming French-Australian relations.
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Lecornu said they aim to send the first shells in the first quarter of this year, and that the project is meant to secure a steady supply of shells to Ukraine over time.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 3:07 pm
Posted by TheGasMan
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:08 pm to
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US Transportation Command announces that they are in the process delivering the first shipment of Bradleys (over 60 vehicles) to Ukraine.

This was in Charleston. I drove by the port on Friday and saw all of those beautiful Bradleys and MRAPs on the quay waiting to be loaded up. There also has been a noticeable uptick in C-17 sorties in and out of Charleston Air Force Base.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:39 pm to
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Biden says he won't send F-16 jets to Ukraine. "No," he tells reporters.


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Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:44 pm to
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I believe that it has been open for a good while, but with greatly reduced weight limits, meaning that the Russians are still sending a lot of freight across the strait with rail ferries.


The road has been repaired, one of the two rail lines was at reduced speed/capacity while the other needed complete replacement.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:45 pm to
There's a lot of twitter chatter now about this. A propangandist TV crew in Melitopol had the TV presenter raped and her cameraman beat up.

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A group of Kadyrovites in Russia-occupied Melitopol in Zaporizhzhya temporarily attacked a film crew of the Russian propaganda channel NTV, who had come "to cover the course of SVO." The "Akhmat battalion" terrorists raped journalist Olga Zenkova and beat up the cameraman.

The NTV management called on the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation to look into the matter and an official document was sent to the head of the Investigative Committee. MyUkraineis.org received it from its own sources (to see the document, scroll to the end of the news).

The authors of the channel noted that this topic was prohibited to cover in the news in order not to "discredit the army", but the management of the channel decided not to leave this issue on its own.

In the document sent to the Investigative Committee it was indicated that the propagandist Olga Zenkova and the cameraman Artem Yepifanov were in the hotel "Vorontsovsky" in Melitopol, when they were attacked by a group of persons in camouflage uniforms, who introduced themselves as "fighters of Akhmat battalion".

"As a result of the attack Yepifanov Artem Sergeevich received injuries of medium severity, which is witnessed by the protocol of examination in Melitopol city hospital ?1. With regard to the reporter Olga Viktorovna Zenkova group of persons also committed violent acts of a sexual nature", - said in an appeal to the Investigative Committee.

The management of the propaganda channel complained that in the "military commandant's office" of Melitopol they refused to open a criminal case.


This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 3:48 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:48 pm to
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The road has been repaired


Almost. It's still one lane for now, but the final section of the 2nd lane is scheduled to be put in place tomorrow.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 6:12 pm to
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In the document sent to the Investigative Committee it was indicated that the propagandist Olga Zenkova and the cameraman Artem Yepifanov were in the hotel "Vorontsovsky" in Melitopol, when they were attacked by a group of persons in camouflage uniforms, who introduced themselves as "fighters of Akhmat battalion".

"As a result of the attack Yepifanov Artem Sergeevich received injuries of medium severity, which is witnessed by the protocol of examination in Melitopol city hospital ?1. With regard to the reporter Olga Viktorovna Zenkova group of persons also committed violent acts of a sexual nature", - said in an appeal to the Investigative Committee.


Fricking animals
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 6:15 pm to
So what do we think this is? I am going with the dual charges of antitank weapons. Video of multiple groups of Russians getting vaporized by the "death ray" in the link below.



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Posted by tigeraddict
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 6:19 pm to
Looks like an anti tank weapon fired at people. A shaped charge sends a molten shot of metal that instantly melts armor. The video looks like the molten shot
Posted by tigeraddict
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 6:24 pm to
I watched the video again. The first explosion a projectile came from the right and the single, focused flame goes to the left.

Definitely looks like a shaped charge explosion. And I remember seeing a pic on Reddit of a room filled with manned anti tank munitions.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 6:58 pm to
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Biden says he won't send F-16 jets to Ukraine. "No," he tells reporters.


If Biden's intention is to maximize Ukrainian casualties he couldn't play his cards any better than he is doing now.
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 8:03 pm to
Random tweets
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North Korea is providing military support to the Russian war efforts in Ukraine with 'rockets and missiles' — NATO's secretary general says

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NATO sees Russia preparing for a new offensive, with the aim of capturing all of Ukraine - Stoltenberg

“We see that the Russians are preparing for a new offensive, that they are mobilizing more soldiers, more than 200,000 people, and possibly even more.

That they are actively building up weapons and ammunition. And most importantly, we do not see any signs that President Putin has changed its overall goal of this invasion, which is to control all of Ukraine," Stoltenberg said.


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Ukraine update?? January 30th

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The weather is getting warmer and traversing in the terrain will be come more and more difficult.

Kreminna-Siversk
The AFU repulsed attacks in the area of Bilohorivka and Yampolivka. I'm closely watching this area, but there are not a lot of news coming out of it.

Bakhmut N
The AFU repulsed attacks in the area of Rozdolivka, Vasyukivka, Paraskoviivka and Bakhmut. It's worth keeping an eye on if AFU can hold the high ground west of the T0513 road, however losing some ground NW of Krasna Hora is not a big deal.

I do not think the bigger road has been M03 has been in full use for a while. Another ting to look out for is if AFU decide to pull back behind the Bakhmutovka River inside the city. It might be a sing of a pending withdrawal from the city.

Bakhmut S
The AFU repulsed attacks in the area of Ivanivske, Klishchiivka, Kurdyumivka and Ozaryanivka. As can be seen, Ru forces have managed to advance along the canal in the forest belt NW of Klishchiivka. Still unclear if AFU lost their fortified positions N of Klishchiivka.

The situation is getting worse in Bakhmut, both of the main supply roads in to the town are now extremely dangerous, to travel. There are a few smaller less suitable roads which might still be safe to use.

If the Ru progress rate keeps up, Ukraine will possibly have to abandon Bakhmut in 2-4 weeks time. It can be prevented or the timeframe might change if AFU manage to stop, revert or slow the RU progress. Take this as a warning to get mentally prepared rather than a prediction.

Vuhledar
No news for this area today. Fighting is ongoing south of Vuhledar, but I don't see any real change. What I'm looking for here are attempts to envelop Vuhledar from the west to cut supplies to the city.

A change in pace might indicate movement along the frontline and a change of tactic. Ru forces have suffered large defeats twice trying to attack Vuhledar head on with some of their best units.

A lot of people say the Russians are stupid, but I disagree. They have adapted well to battlefield changes. I think one major difference between how we define success compared to the Russians is they only are about if they made progress, but we also consider the cost.

Ukraine has just secured some large aid packages, with even more things being discussed at the moment. Their forces now should not be symbolic wins to show the world they can make progress.

I believe the best way for Ukraine to secure future success and preserve offensive potential is to swap to more of an aggressive defense rather than offense.

It seems RuAF are willing to commit their VDV and Naval infantry in the Vulhedar, Bakhmut and Kreminna area. These as well as the wagner cannon fodder have proven during the course of the war to be the most effective. They have also proven to be effective in defense.

If Ukraine now can swap to seek opportunities to do smaller local attacks, especially in the north rather than trying to advance, they could possibly attrit the RU elite forces enough to get in a good position for a spring offensive.

We must not forget, both Ukraine and Russia are actively training and setting up new units. Both sided are largely made up by mobilized personnel with very little training

I believe the deciding factors during the spring/summer will be the level of training and ammunition availability. It will be very important for Ukraine to actually be able to maneuver effectively with the new mechanized equipment provided by the west.

It would be a big advantage for the AFU if the brigades equipped with western IFVs and tanks will be able to conduct offensive operations at night. This is extremely hard and requires a lot of training and it will be interesting to see if the will be able to do it.


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The Situation around Bakhmut is beginning to look increasingly untenable for the Ukrainian Defenders still in the City; Russian Forces are continuing to advance both to the North and South cutting of Supply Routes with an Operational Encirclement looking more likely by the day.

Hopefully plans are already underway to Strategically Withdraw from the City to more Defensible Positions to the West because if not this could be a Disaster in the making for Ukrainian Forces on that Front.


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Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 8:45 pm to
Politards and Russians will believe that this is a death ray from Iron Man biolabs
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 8:49 pm to
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Politards ... will believe


It was an ultra-concentrated blast of mRNA vaccine. Why are all these people dying suddenly?
Posted by Lakeboy7
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 8:57 pm to
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A shaped charge sends a molten shot of metal that instantly melts armor. The video looks like the molten shot


EFP, explosively formed projectile.
Posted by OutsideObserver
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 1:43 am to
Without going into politics too much he is kind of damned either way.

If he sends too much too quickly he's a war monger and if he doesn't send it quickly enough he's letting people die.

I think the US has had to walk a fine line while gauging Russia's response along with balancing the disposition of the greater NATO alliance and by and large they have gently forced the issue when support has stagnated.

None of this helps those currently in the line of fire or having their country invaded and turned to a wasteland but it could be much worse.

Whether it will be enough is something that will be dissected for the next generation with the benefit of hindsight.



Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:20 am to
Gen. Ben Hodges, writing in the Economist about why Crimea is so critical for Ukraine's long-term security:

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The most important reason why Ukraine should not negotiate with Russia is that it may now have a chance to win back Crimea. It is the most crucial piece of territory Russia seized in 2014 and it will prove the decisive terrain of this war, too. Ukrainians know that as long as Russia retains Crimea they are more vulnerable to future attacks than before Russia seized it. And while Russia has it, Ukraine cannot rebuild its economy. That is because the Russians are able to interfere with activity in all of Ukraine’s ports from Crimea, disrupt shipping from places such as Odessa and block access to the Sea of Azov.

Crimea is also useful to Russia itself. It is home to the Black Sea Fleet, a launchpad for drones and other weapons, a logistics hub and a trading port for Russian merchant shipping. Because Crimea is decisive, and because it is becoming clearer that Ukrainian forces can liberate Crimea, Ukraine must not negotiate now. Russia would never agree to trade Crimea away.

Instead Ukraine should fight to liberate Crimea. First, it should isolate Crimea with a combination of long-range precision weapons and armoured forces. Isolation requires disrupting and then severing the only two land lines of communication that connect Crimea to Russia: the Kerch Bridge and the land bridge from Rostov in Russia through Mariupol and Melitopol in Ukraine and into Crimea. Second, it should strike critical targets on the Crimean peninsula for months until it becomes untenable for Russian air, land and naval forces to remain stationed there. Precision strikes on Sevastopol, Dzhankoi and Saky will render these very vulnerable naval bases, logistics sites and airbases unusable for Russian forces. This, rather than a conventional frontal attack against all Russian defences in the region, will compel Russian forces to leave Crimea.

Certain officials in the Pentagon question whether Ukraine can eject Russia from Crimea. But I believe that the calibre of Ukraine’s leadership and the will of its armed forces mean that it has a very real chance of success, assuming we, the West, give Ukraine the specific capabilities it needs. So let’s get going. Give Ukraine weapons such as the Army Tactical Missile System, which has a range of 300km (186 miles), and Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bombs, with a range of 150km. If the West moves quickly, Ukraine could liberate Crimea by the end of August. If not, Crimea will remain a sanctuary for Russian supplies and weaponry.



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And he's right that ATACMS would mean that it would be impossible for Russia to hold Crimea. That's why I see ATACMS as the key to Ukrainian victory. If we give them, then Ukraine wins the war. If not, then we could have a very long war.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:33 am to
Financial Times

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France has signalled openness to sending fighter jets to Ukraine as western countries weigh the next steps in military assistance to help Kyiv resist Russian attacks.

“By definition, nothing is excluded,” President Emmanuel Macron said at a press conference in The Hague on Monday, adding that he had not received a request for jets from Ukraine.

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Paris has informed other European capitals that the possibility of sending additional weapons systems, including jets, is on the table, according to two officials briefed on the discussions, but a decision is unlikely to be made in the immediate future.

The priority remains to provide air and missile defence systems, they said, and the new push to provide tanks and train Ukrainian crews to use them.
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Defence analysts expect that France would send an older model of its Mirage jets to Ukraine if Macron opted to supply combat aircraft. Manufactured by Dassault Aviation, France had 106 Mirage 2000s in service at the beginning of last year, all of which will be replaced by fifth-generation Rafale jets by 2030.

France retired 14 Mirage 2000-C jets in June, so giving them to Ukraine would not degrade French military capabilities, and it will phase out a further 26 Mirage 2000-5 interceptors over the next few years.

Given that France makes its own jets, there would be no need for third-party approval to export them. Several European armed forces operate F-16s but would require US authorisation to send them to Ukraine. That made French jets a more obvious candidate, one of the European officials said.


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