re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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Where have all the "Europe will freeze and millions will die" trolls gone?

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They melted away when winter turned out to be much warmer than anticipated.

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And 20 million pounds worth of drones? How many drones is that?

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About 350.

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REAKING State Duma deputy, Lieutenant General Andrei Gurulev: As soon as German tanks appear on Russian territory, Russia will have no choice but to announce a general mobilization.

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Why is Russia waiting? There has been fighting in the Luhansk oblast, the Donetsk oblast, the Zaporizhzhia oblast, and the Kherson oblast since Russia “ liberated and annexed them” last fall. I guess this deputy still considers them to be part of Ukraine.

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The past few pages of this thread have done nothing but make the case for the US leaving NATO.

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As long as Europe is the main trading partner of the USA, it is absolutely worth it.

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leaving NATO and making germany and some of the others to stop being fricking douche bags does not equal russia ruling the world

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Every respected scholar in the world knows that the US leaving NATO would lead to more war & conflict in Europe that would eventually (in the relatively near future) envelope the entire continent and devastate our economy (and have many other adverse consequences for our country). This isn't about whether or not Russia could defeat the UK and/or France and/or Poland. It is about what Putin thinks would happen.

The best money our country could possibly spend for our national security is this money in Ukraine. We are destroying Russia's conventional capabilities and slaughtering Russians en masse without any America lives lost. Geopolitically, this is a godsend, unless you prefer Russia over the US.

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Every respected scholar in the world knows that the US leaving NATO would lead to more war & conflict in Europe that would eventually (in the relatively near future) envelope the entire continent and devastate our economy (and have many other adverse consequences for our country). This isn't about whether or not Russia could defeat the UK and/or France and/or Poland. It is about what Putin thinks would happen.

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Silliness that is based on zero facts or common sense. The US has been footing the bill for Europe’s security for generations. Look where we’re at now….a major land war in Europe that we’re paying for again.

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The best money our country could possibly spend for our national security is this money in Ukraine. We are destroying Russia's conventional capabilities and slaughtering Russians en masse without any America lives lost.

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So where is Europe’s responsibility in all of this? We must pay for all of Europe’s safety and security from an army, according to this board at least, isn’t capable of tying its own shoes in the morning much less wage an effective offensive campaign? All the while the average European derides Americans as dumb, makes fun of our elected leaders on the world stage, declared Merkel the leader of the free world lol. And while they’re doing all that and sending their kids to free university, lapping up free healthcare and pensions available to them for one reason and one reason only, the US taxpayer. And they still would rather buy their energy from the evil dictator in the Kremlin.

Europe is a fricking joke. Its elected leaders are a joke. Its population is a fricking joke. frick them. If they want our protection then we should be able to dictate their domestic and foreign policy. They clearly aren’t capable of doing even the simplest tasks by themselves.

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Geopolitically, this is a godsend, unless you prefer Russia over the US.

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Ah, the old question anything that’s happening and you support Putin line. Only a small minded ignorant fool would think this way.

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Which some do. Usually they're subtle about it. Occasionally they let the mask slip and say something overt.

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Who are the subtle ones? Name some names.

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So where is Europe’s responsibility in all of this? We must pay for all of Europe’s safety and security from an army, according to this board at least, isn’t capable of tying its own shoes in the morning much less wage an effective offensive campaign? All the while the average European derides Americans as dumb, makes fun of our elected leaders on the world stage, declared Merkel the leader of the free world lol. And while they’re doing all that and sending their kids to free university, lapping up free healthcare and pensions available to them for one reason and one reason only, the US taxpayer. And they still would rather buy their energy from the evil dictator in the Kremlin.

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Truth. Like I said in an earlier post, we have bailed them out twice and here we are again. Germany's armed forces are a joke. The 100 billion euros Scholz proposed is a joke. Just this week the person over defense oversight in such matters reported to the parliament/Bundestag that they need 300 billion to become relevant. That is how far that they are behind. Their joke of a defense secretary who refused to push forward reforms just resigned. She was another SPD disaster.

It's time for the European socialists to put up or shut up.

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ummmmm

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ummmmmm 2021-2024.....did they all hold up their end? Got that report because germany has been saying they will spend 2% but never do

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Every respected scholar in the world knows that the US leaving NATO would lead to more war & conflict in Europe that would eventually (in the relatively near future) envelope the entire continent and devastate our economy (and have many other adverse consequences for our country)

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have you let europe know? because they seem to want to drag their feet on everything.

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The best money our country could possibly spend for our national security is this money in Ukraine. We are destroying Russia's conventional capabilities and slaughtering Russians en masse without any America lives lost. Geopolitically, this is a godsend, unless you prefer Russia over the US.

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this we agree with. Im not saying what we are doing is worth it. it is. les than 6% of our defense budget to detroy over 60% of russia conventional military and their economy. said that 100 times

this is more about germany and a couple others being pussies and bought and paid for by the kremlin.

if they want to cuddle up to russia fine...frick them and hungry and others...kick their asses out the EU and out of Nato.

either with us or you are with russia and putin. no middle ground for germany and to be with us, do as we frickign say....period. or they can fend for themselves.