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Posted on 1/2/23 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by Highthoughts
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 3:58 pm to
The professionals are dead. They died in the first wave against Kyiv.

The ones left are in Wagner throwing prisoner recruits at fortifications in Bakhmut.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 4:01 pm to
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The professionals are dead. They died in the first wave against Kyiv.

The ones left are in Wagner throwing prisoner recruits at fortifications in Bakhmut.


I know Ukraine is losing a lot of men, too, but there are some wild videos daily of Ukraine smoking massive groups of Russians near Bakhmut. I can't even imagine their KIA numbers.
Posted by Highthoughts
Member since Sep 2022
313 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 4:05 pm to
I think the jig is up for mobilization of prisoners now.

The ones left are only using it to escape at the first opportunity or just not agreeing to it.

Not sure where russias next reservoir of man power will originate from.
Posted by MAXtheTIGER
Title town
Member since Dec 2006
1130 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 4:08 pm to
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Fatbertinelli666 or whatever your name is, what do you say?


He just got mobilized and sent to Bakhmut. Poor schmuck.


He will be kissing the icon within the week
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 4:14 pm to
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I'm astounded by the lack of discipline shown by the whole Russian military. I can understand from the fresh conscripts, but the professionals are inept.
Absolute corruption corrupts absolutely.

The entire Russian military hierarchy either were thieves or complicit with thievery, and not just of money or materiel. Of trust and integrity and honor.

Not a recipe for success in a military organization.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 4:47 pm to
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They don't need to be good. They just have to have numbers and then they have the nukes. A bigger version of North Korea.


They have a very hard time supplying 200,000. It is obvious that they cannot supply more
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 6:04 pm to
How in the hell did this thread fall off the front page right as Ukraine is preparing for their blitzkrieg into Russia?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 6:34 pm to
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He will be kissing the icon within the week


probably already part of his training because its not ghey, but military tradition in Russia
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45582 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 6:34 pm to
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I'm astounded by the lack of discipline shown by the whole Russian military. I can understand from the fresh conscripts, but the professionals are inept.
Absolute corruption corrupts absolutely.

The entire Russian military hierarchy either were thieves or complicit with thievery, and not just of money or materiel. Of trust and integrity and honor.

Not a recipe for success in a military organization.


The Russian soldiers know it too. I am really surpirsed that they have not turned their weapons on their officers. Even a 100 year old Mosin Nagant will kill a political officer.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38449 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 6:49 pm to
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The Russian soldiers know it too. I am really surpirsed that they have not turned their weapons on their officers. Even a 100 year old Mosin Nagant will kill a political officer.



I would love to talk to a handful of the mobilized Russian men and get their true, unfiltered feelings.

The first waves may have thought they were doing something special, but by now they have to essentially expect to come back crippled or dead.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 7:20 pm to
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I repeat, the US military has never accomplished anything militarily like what Russia is accomplishing in Ukraine since World War II or indeed probably since the US Civil War. History is being made now and the USA is supporting the side of the losers. Good bye.


As an old tanker who helped rip the ever loving shite out of Saddam Hussein’s Republican Guard in 1991, I’m here to tell you that you’re full of shite. We did more damage in 100 hours than the Russians have done in almost a year. And unlike what Russia has done in Ukraine, we made their asses quit.

Go frick your self you stupid little shite stain.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 7:36 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30526 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 7:55 pm to
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As an old tanker who helped rip the ever loving shite out of Saddam Hussein’s Republican Guard in 1991


What unit were you with? I assume you were in the east, I was all the way out in the west where it was even easier.


BTW this is NOT some kind of challenge just curious where you were.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:38 pm to
I was with 1/37 AR, 1st Armored Div., part of VII Corps.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8172 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:55 pm to
1st the barracks, now this? I wonder if those longer range rounds (I don't remember if they are HIMARS or 155mm) are making an appearance. I wonder if Russia, even though they knew this ammo was on the way, didn't make any adjustments and now they are paying the price?

https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1608928875807125504
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The AFU hit an army level command post in Kheson region.

RU Officers from the 36th CAA, units: 37th Guards Motor Rifle Brigade, 75th Control Brigade, 26th NBC Protection Regiment

And from 68th AC: 39th Separate Motor Rifle Brigade

Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:59 pm to
Video at link
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1608873339631861760

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The moment of interception of a Russian cruise missile yesterday somewhere in the Kyiv region
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:04 pm to
isw update

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Ukrainian air defenses reportedly intercepted all drones from two consecutive nights of Russian drone strike attacks against Ukraine on December 31 – January 2. Ukraine’s air force reported on January 1 that Ukrainian air defense forces shot down all 45 Russian Iranian-made Shahed-136 drones that Russia fired at Ukraine on New Year's Eve.[1] Ukrainian Air Force Spokesman Yuriy Ignat stated on January 1 that Ukrainian forces used the US-provided NASAMS air defense system to shoot down these drones.[2] The Ukrainian General Staff reported on January 2 that Ukrainian forces intercepted all 39 Shahed-136 drones launched against Ukraine between the night of January 1 and 2.[3] The Ukrainian General Staff again reported on January 2 that Ukrainian forces shot down all 27 Shahed-136 drones that Russian forces launched against Ukraine on January 2, though it is unclear if this figure includes the previously reported intercepts from the night between January 1 and 2


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Russia’s air and missile campaign against Ukraine is likely not generating the Kremlin’s desired information effects among Russia’s nationalists. Russian forces conducted a cruise missile strike against an object in Khmelnytskyi Oblast — reportedly a base of the Ukrainian 8th Separate Special Forces Regiment — on December 31.


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A devastating Ukrainian HIMARS strike on a Russian base in Makiivka, Donetsk Oblast, on December 31 generated significant criticism of Russian military leadership in the Russian information space. The Ukrainian General Staff reported that a Ukrainian precision strike on a Russian manpower and military equipment concentration point in Makiivka destroyed up to 10 pieces of equipment but did not release an official casualty number as of January 2.[10] The Department of Strategic Communications of the Ukrainian Armed Forces stated on January 1 that the strike killed 400 mobilized personnel and injured 300


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The Russian MoD’s vague acknowledgment of the strike generated criticism towards the Russian military command, however. Wagner-affiliated milbloggers stated that Russian military command had made it easy for the Ukrainian forces to strike several hundred servicemen in one location, calling the DNR explanation of cell phone usage a “lie.”[20] A former Russian officer had also stated that Russian forces stored ammunition in the school’s basement, enabling the devastating strike


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Such profound military failures will continue to complicate Putin’s efforts to appease the Russian pro-war community and retain the dominant narrative in the domestic information space. Russian sources claimed that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the military and the Investigative Committee to investigate the incident in Makiivka by January


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Russian sources responded lukewarmly to Russian President Vladmir Putin’s staged New Year’s address, while Russian milbloggers lauded Wagner Group financier Yevgeniy Prigozhin’s appearances on the frontlines over the New Year’s holidays. Several Russian milbloggers amplified social media criticisms that Putin used background actors rather than standing with real soldiers during his address.[27] These criticisms and a chain of Putin’s canceled public appearances and meetings with ordinary citizens may show Putin as out of touch. One pro-Kremlin milblogger acknowledged the debate via an editorial in a popular Russian newspaper in which he vehemently denied that Putin used actors at his speech.


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Prigozhin used reporting on deceased Wagner Group mercenaries and his prominence in New Year’s features to continue to push for legal recognition of Wagner Private Military Company (PMC) and to criticize bureaucrats not favorable to Wagner PMC. Prigozhin continues to seek increased legitimization of and state benefits for Wagner forces, although private military companies are illegal in Russia


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The Kremlin is likely co-opting some Russian milbloggers who are willing to sell out in exchange for political prestige. Prominent Russian milbloggers Alexander Sladkov and Yevgeniy Poddubny attended the Kremlin primetime New Year’s Eve television show Goluboy Ogonek 2023 in Moscow on December 31.[37] This program airs immediately after Putin’s annual New Year's Eve speech and is attended by Putin and Kremlin political and cultural elites


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Key Takeaways

Ukrainian air defenses reportedly intercepted all drones from two consecutive nights of Russian drone strike attacks against Ukraine on December 31 ­– January 2.

Russia’s air and missile campaign against Ukraine is likely not generating the Kremlin’s desired information effects among Russia’s nationalists.

A devastating Ukrainian HIMARS strike on a Russian base in Makiivka, Donetsk Oblast, on December 31 generated significant criticism of Russian military leadership in the Russian information space.

The Russian MoD is likely attempting to deflect the blame for its poor operational security (OPSEC) onto Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) officials and mobilized personnel.

Russian sources responded lukewarmly to Russian President Vladmir Putin’s staged New Year’s address, while Russian milbloggers lauded Wagner Group financier Yevgeniy Prigozhin’s appearances on the frontlines over the New Year’s holidays.

Russian forces continued to carry out unsuccessful attempts to improve their tactical positions northwest of Svatove after reportedly conducting a tactical pause.

The Ukrainian Center for Defense Strategies reported that Russian forces are continuing to deploy personnel on the Kharkiv-Siversk frontline.

Ukrainian officials reported that Russian forces are redeploying along the eastern axis while struggling to maintain their pace of artillery strikes.

Russian forces attempted limited offensive operations in Zaporizhia Oblast and continued efforts to reinforce defensive structures.

Russian President Vladimir Putin continues to extend financial promises made to Russian soldiers as Ukrainian officials continue to warn of an impending wave of Russian mobilization.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73704 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:05 pm to
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26th NBC Protection Regiment


I wonder why the Russians have NBC units deployed. The Ukrainians gave up their nukes decades ago. And they have no chemical weapons as far as I know. Is it possible the Russians are getting ready to make a nuclear/chemical move of their own? I’m skeptical there as well. For maneuver formations to operate in an NBC environment takes specialized training. From what I’ve seen of the Russian Army thus far, they’re barely able to conduct even simple offensive operations. Adding in the complication of operating effectively in an NBC environment would most likely be beyond their capability.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:07 pm to
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wonder why the Russians have NBC units deployed.


Acting as infantry. Manpower issue.

Did you mean III Corps for your time in Iraq?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73704 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:17 pm to
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Did you mean III Corps for your time in Iraq?


No VII Corps. I was in the First Gulf War.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8172 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:24 pm to
It's a good question.

The simplest answer might be that they are attached to an army or corps and deployed just because they are part of the TOE.
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