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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/20/22 at 6:45 am to
Posted by BrianKellyRespecter
Member since Aug 2022
534 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 6:45 am to
Did we ever find out who bombed the Nord Stream pipelines? Seems like everyone stopped talking about it. I wonder why.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 6:47 am to
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BTW, who was flying us to the International Space Station again?
Elon Musk
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8170 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 6:59 am to
BKR, it would be interesting to know more about the Russian “troll farm” industry, would you shed some light on it for us?

1) How do you get paid? Is it by post, by the hour, by the month?
2) Are you given a list of approved talking points?
3) Are you assigned a list of sites to post on, or do you get to choose?
4) how is success measured?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5657 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 7:01 am to
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 20 October 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE

On 18 October 2022, recently appointed commander of Russian forces in Ukraine, General Sergei Surovikin, told Russian media that'a difficult situation has emerged in the Kherson area. He endorsed the previously announced plans of the occupation authorities to evacuate the civilian population.

As the overall operational commander, Surovikin's announcement highlighting negative news about the' special military operation' is highly unusual. It likely indicates that the Russian authorities are seriously considering a major withdrawal of their forces from the area west of the Dnipro river.

A key challenge of any Russian withdrawal operation would be extracting troops and their equipment across the 1000m wide river in good order. With all the permanent bridges severely damaged, Russia would highly likely rely heavily on a temporary barge bridge it completed near Kherson in recent days, and military pontoon ferry units, which continue to operate at several locations.
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 7:02 am to
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Did we ever find out who bombed the Nord Stream pipelines? Seems like everyone stopped talking about it. I wonder why


They haven’t stopped talking about it and just released video and images two days ago….

However it is interesting that Russia has seemed to lose interest on the subject
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 7:03 am
Posted by BrianKellyRespecter
Member since Aug 2022
534 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 7:05 am to
I hope the investigators get to the bottom of who is responsible for this gross breach of international law.
Posted by Mr Happy
Member since May 2019
2707 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 7:05 am to
From the New Yorker:
Arming Ukraine article
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In July, military officials from Ukraine, the United States, and the United Kingdom converged at a base in Europe to plot out possible scenarios. The Ukrainians’ starting point was a broad campaign across the southern front, a push to liberate not only the occupied city of Kherson but hundreds of square miles in the nearby Mykolaiv and Zaporizhzhia regions. The military planners met in three rooms, divided by country, where experts ran the same tabletop exercises. They often worked twenty hours a day, with American and British military officials helping to hone the Ukrainians’ strategy. “We have algorithms and methodologies that are more sophisticated when it comes to things like mapping out logistics and calculating munitions rates,” a senior official at the Defense Department said. “The idea was not to tell them what to do but, rather, to give them different runs to test their plans.”



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Russia’s generals had moved a considerable number of units out of the Kharkiv region, in the northeast, to back up forces near Kherson.

The assembled planners settled on an idea that would take advantage of this vulnerability: a two-front offensive. Shortly afterward, (Defence Minister) Reznikov was informed of the plans. “It wasn’t the first time I was struck by our military’s ability to come up with unexpected solutions,” he said. “I understood it was up to me to get them the necessary weapons.”
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 7:08 am
Posted by BrianKellyRespecter
Member since Aug 2022
534 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 7:06 am to
I consider myself an artist. I would never accept something so paltry as money for my poasting.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 7:10 am to
Interesting developments from Italy:





Current PM opinion after being made out to be a danger and a Nazi:


Posted by BrianKellyRespecter
Member since Aug 2022
534 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 7:11 am to
Based Berlusconi told the truth
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 7:12 am to
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would never accept something so paltry as money for my poasting.


That’s understandable.

Putin’s Prime Minister Mishustin ordered to allocate 1 trillion rubles from the National Welfare Fund to cover the budget deficit.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1583054110219124737
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 7:14 am
Posted by BrianKellyRespecter
Member since Aug 2022
534 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 7:17 am to
The Yougayne terrorist regime will lose. Good night :-)
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 7:19 am to
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The Yougayne terrorist regime will lose


Speaking of losing how in the hell is Russia army still this inept? I keep thinking they will get their shite together but man has this been a pathetic showing.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15769 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 7:19 am to
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Did we ever find out who bombed the Nord Stream pipelines? Seems like everyone stopped talking about it. I wonder why.


Photo showed a failed weld to me just as plain as the nose on your face. Russian steel with Russian welders is likely the culprit. Former welding inspector friend concurs.

This doesn't surprise me in the least. Biz friend had a contract with Chevron to clean up idle equipment made in Russia for a cancelled refining project in Kazakhstan. Hydrocracker and hydrotreater reactors were hot items a decade ago and would have been sold easily but they were made under Russian codes with Russian steel. Even though never even installed no one wanted to save 99 cents on the dollar and take a chance on Russian built equipment.
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 7:27 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5657 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 7:20 am to
RF Troops by Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Plant Reportedly Looting, Abandoning Occupied Homes

Russian Federation (RF) troops quartered in homes and apartments adjacent to the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant are departing the area in vehicles loaded with loot, a Thursday, Oct. 20 statement by Ukraine’s national atomic energy agency Enerhoatom has said.

Images and social media accounts from the city of Enerhodar, which is adjacent to the six-reactor plant, showed Russian army trucks and private vehicles with Ukrainian license plates carrying televisions, refrigerators and carpets.

The local Skifskiy Hotel, normally a residence for transient workers at the plant, was “completely looted”, the statement added Enerhodar social media chat groups said the RF soldiers were withdrawing as part of a Kremlin plan to consolidate forces in the southern sector of the Ukraine war.

It was not clear whether RF troops were still on the territory of the plant itself. RF forces captured the Zaporizhzhia plant in early March. Since then units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) have traded artillery fire with RF forces in the vicinity.

The Kyiv Posi Daily Military Update
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 7:39 am to
The way the Russian forces are acting you would think this whole war was over major appliances.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42649 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:14 am to
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Speaking of losing how in the hell is Russia army still this inept? I keep thinking they will get their shite together but man has this been a pathetic showing.


According to most sources, Russia has lost a lot of their best officers and soldiers. They have lost a lot of the equipment and armaments.
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 8:18 am
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
2169 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:15 am to
@Tom_Winter Twitter Tweet 1
@Tom_Winter Twitter Tweet 2
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NBC News: Federal prosecutors say sensitive U.S. military technology has been found in Russian weapons systems recovered in Ukraine. They've charged a group of Russians with illegally purchasing the technology through a network of shell companies and fake documentation.
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The indictment (and our story to come) stems from a FBI New York investigation and a Justice Department Task Force KleptoCapture investigation which also involves illicit sales of Venezuelan oil to a Russian aluminum company controlled by an oligarch and a Chinese oil company.

STORY
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Two Russian nationals were arrested in a scheme to obtain sensitive U.S. military electronics and technology to provide it to the Russian defense sector, prosecutors said Wednesday, noting that some of the items were found on the battlefield in Ukraine.

Yury Orekhov and Artem Uss are accused of using false documents and a front company to purchase electronics like advanced semiconductors and microprocessors used in fighter aircraft, missile systems and smart munitions.

The men sent the items to sanctioned Russian companies that serve the defense sector, according to federal prosecutors.

“Some of the same electronic components obtained through the criminal scheme have been found in Russian weapons platforms seized on the battlefield in Ukraine,” prosecutors said.

The operation was part of a broader scheme that involved smuggling oil from Venezuela to companies in Russia and China — and millions of dollars in cryptocurrency transfers to launder the proceeds of the criminal enterprise, according to a 12-count indictment that charged a total of seven people.

"This network schemed to procure sophisticated technology in direct support of a floundering Russian Federation military industrial complex," Assistant FBI Director Michael Driscoll said in a statement.

Orekhov, who is 42 and lives in the United Arab Emirates, was arrested in Germany on Monday. Uss, who is 40 and lives in Moscow, was arrested in Italy the same day.

Both men will undergo extradition proceedings, prosecutors said. It was not immediately clear whether they had hired lawyers.

The Justice Department also charged three other Russians in connection with the scheme: Svetlana Kuzurgasheva, 32, also known as Lana Neumann; Timofey Telegin, 39; and Sergey Tulyakov, 52.

Two other men were charged in connection with the allegedly illicit oil deals: Juan Fernando Serrano Ponce, who is 47 and lives in Dubai, and Juan Carlos Soto, whose age and hometown were not provided by U.S. authorities.

Ponce and Soto are accused of brokering oil deals worth millions of dollars involving a front company operated by Orekhov and Uss and purchasers in Russia and China. The deals were routed through a complex web of shell companies and bank accounts to disguise the transactions, prosecutors said.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42649 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:17 am to
Didn’t Putin say they were after the Nazis, and not the Samsungs ????
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:18 am to
There is a lot of evidence that various factions of certain European countries, mainly on the fringes, but some part of established parties, are definitely Putin and Russia sympathizers. I think that support goes hand-in-hand with Euroscepticism. I do wonder what will happen to Western funding of Ukraine if more of these parties win. I think McCarthy's recent comments about Ukraine may be more about getting cuts to spending as a tradeoff for Ukrainian aid, but I do wonder what the wider Western response will be if US aid to Ukraine does indeed diminish.

Putin might hope for some operational pause caused by Western indecision, but the task of rebuilding Russian armed forces actually seems monumental. I can't see any way of actually rebuilding their armed forces in light of their massive demographic crisis. The actual work of modernizing their forces also seems like a decade-long task.
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