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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 10/13/22 at 6:46 pm to StormyMcMan
Posted on 10/13/22 at 6:46 pm to StormyMcMan
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Exclusive: Musk's SpaceX says it can no longer pay for critical Starlink satellite services in Ukraine, asks Pentagon to pick up the tab
He's massively overstating the cost and is trying to grift taxpayers, but I hope they go along and give him what he wants. Starlink has been a game changer.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 6:57 pm to GOP_Tiger
On the Eastern front:
This guy's reports and maps have a history of being somewhat optimistic for Ukraine, but I think that he is correct about steady Ukrainian progress northwest of Svatove.
I think that Russians talking about pushing back Ukrainian forces south of Svatove (west of Kreminna) have exaggerated their success, but I don't think that Ukraine is making any progress there.
Of course, if Ukraine can take Svatove, then they can push south from there and pressure Kreminna that way, so Ukraine doesn't need to advance there right now if they are still making progress further north.
Remember, the way to think about Ukraine's strategy in the Eastern theater is to see Svatove as opening up the road to Starobilsk and cutting the remaining railway from Russia to the area, and Kreminna as opening up the ability to flank Severodonetsk and Lysychansk, recover those cities, and then push south to flank Russian troops outside Bakhmut.
This guy's reports and maps have a history of being somewhat optimistic for Ukraine, but I think that he is correct about steady Ukrainian progress northwest of Svatove.
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AFU presence in Krokhmal'ne. By having control over it, Tabaivka, Pischchane and Berestove have to be under AFU control as well.
After 5 days of shelling and no proven RU presence i mark Pershotravnene, Cherneshchyna liberated.
I added yellow unconfirmed flags
I think that Russians talking about pushing back Ukrainian forces south of Svatove (west of Kreminna) have exaggerated their success, but I don't think that Ukraine is making any progress there.
Of course, if Ukraine can take Svatove, then they can push south from there and pressure Kreminna that way, so Ukraine doesn't need to advance there right now if they are still making progress further north.
Remember, the way to think about Ukraine's strategy in the Eastern theater is to see Svatove as opening up the road to Starobilsk and cutting the remaining railway from Russia to the area, and Kreminna as opening up the ability to flank Severodonetsk and Lysychansk, recover those cities, and then push south to flank Russian troops outside Bakhmut.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 6:58 pm to StormyMcMan
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BKR posted a link but basically (at least in Germany) the Catholics were afraid of also being persecuted as some priests were dying communion to SS persons. So the Church struck a deal that was basically we won't do anything against you so long as you don't do anything against us.
Ok, thanks for the clarification.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:27 pm to WeeWee
You know it’s getting really bad when the Russians are breaking out the 80 year old D1 artillery. You couldn’t pay my arse with all the rubles in Russia to be the first son of a bitch to fire that thing. It’s just as likely to blow everyone up around it as it is to fire a shell downrange. It’s max range is only 12 km as well so they will have to be used very close to the front lines and within heavy mortar range.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:32 pm to LSUPilot07
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Russians are breaking out the 80 year old D1 artillery.
Our favorite State TV host Solovyov is big mad about the absolute state of the Russian military.
Youtube
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:43 pm to GOP_Tiger
My previous working theory on the bridge strike was that it was a missile. My theory operated on the following logic:
1) Neither Russia nor Ukraine would want to admit that the bridge was hit with ATACMS.
2) After the Saki airbase strike a while back, both Russian and Ukrainian sources talked about special forces and sabotage, before Ukraine actually admitted a month later that it was actually a missile strike, which indicated that Ukraine had a very limited number of missiles that could strike that far.
3) The truck-bomb theory is complex. There's the complexity of Ukrainian forces assembling the bomb (either in Russia, or as now claimed, in Georgia). There's the difficulty of getting it past security at the bridge, as well as past the Georgia/Russia border. We know that it wasn't a suicide bomber, or he would have been in the other lane, closer to the rail bridge. So, that would mean that Ukraine had to have eyes on the truck and the ability to remotely detonate the bomb. This would likely involve a Ukrainian SOF operative driving some distance behind the truck and seeing when it was roughly lined up with the fuel cars on the rail bridge.
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But I've now changed my mind. This long post examines the scene in greater detail that I have previously seen from anyone else and is quite persuasive in displaying the evidence that it was a truck bomb.
Another piece of evidence that goes against the ATACMS theory (that he doesn't mention) is that ATACMS are normally accurate to within two meters. If Ukraine had used ATACMS, they would have hit the rail bridge, as that is most critical for Russian logistics. Those missiles aren't so inaccurate that they would hit the road bridge, much less the lane further away from the rail bridge.
This doesn't completely disprove the idea of the Ukrainian Grim missile, but as the author states, that missile's warhead is probably too small to have caused the explosion we see, and it's extremely unlikely that Ukraine could have launched such a missile without any Russian effort to shoot it down. The Saki airbase strike was unexpected, and perhaps Russian air defenses were lax, but Russia has been expecting a strike on the bridge (remember the 20 ways that it was protected?).
So, I now think that the evidence for the truck bomb is compelling. Read the linked report and tell me what you think.
1) Neither Russia nor Ukraine would want to admit that the bridge was hit with ATACMS.
2) After the Saki airbase strike a while back, both Russian and Ukrainian sources talked about special forces and sabotage, before Ukraine actually admitted a month later that it was actually a missile strike, which indicated that Ukraine had a very limited number of missiles that could strike that far.
3) The truck-bomb theory is complex. There's the complexity of Ukrainian forces assembling the bomb (either in Russia, or as now claimed, in Georgia). There's the difficulty of getting it past security at the bridge, as well as past the Georgia/Russia border. We know that it wasn't a suicide bomber, or he would have been in the other lane, closer to the rail bridge. So, that would mean that Ukraine had to have eyes on the truck and the ability to remotely detonate the bomb. This would likely involve a Ukrainian SOF operative driving some distance behind the truck and seeing when it was roughly lined up with the fuel cars on the rail bridge.
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But I've now changed my mind. This long post examines the scene in greater detail that I have previously seen from anyone else and is quite persuasive in displaying the evidence that it was a truck bomb.
Another piece of evidence that goes against the ATACMS theory (that he doesn't mention) is that ATACMS are normally accurate to within two meters. If Ukraine had used ATACMS, they would have hit the rail bridge, as that is most critical for Russian logistics. Those missiles aren't so inaccurate that they would hit the road bridge, much less the lane further away from the rail bridge.
This doesn't completely disprove the idea of the Ukrainian Grim missile, but as the author states, that missile's warhead is probably too small to have caused the explosion we see, and it's extremely unlikely that Ukraine could have launched such a missile without any Russian effort to shoot it down. The Saki airbase strike was unexpected, and perhaps Russian air defenses were lax, but Russia has been expecting a strike on the bridge (remember the 20 ways that it was protected?).
So, I now think that the evidence for the truck bomb is compelling. Read the linked report and tell me what you think.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:47 pm to GOP_Tiger
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@Faytuks · 1h BREAKING: A "counter terrorist regime" has been introduced in Belarus, the armed forces and special services are ready to repulse any provocations from neighboring countries, head of the Belarusian Foreign Ministry says - RIA
NOW: The "counter terrorist operation mode" was introduced in Belarus after reports of planned provocations by a number of neighboring states, the Foreign Minister said.
Belarus foreign minister: “We must protect our people and make sure that the occupier does not set foot on a single meter of our land. The head of our country held a number of meetings with law enforcement agencies, a counter-terrorist operation regime was introduced"
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:52 pm to Burhead
BWAHAHAHA, he means his own poorly trained troops could easily topple the government. Plus and excuse not to be used in Ukraine where they would be decimated. Instead Luka is waiting out Putin's demise.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:55 pm to Obtuse1
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Our favorite State TV host Solovyov is big made about the absolute state of the Russian military.
I can't help but like the guy. He's a fan fav heel.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:56 pm to GOP_Tiger
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So, that would mean that Ukraine had to have eyes on the truck and the ability to remotely detonate the bomb. This would likely involve a Ukrainian SOF operative driving some distance behind the truck and seeing when it was roughly lined up with the fuel cars on the rail bridge.
A smart detonator preprogrammed with GPS coordinates could fill the role of SOF operative. The fuel cars being there may have been coincidental.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:00 pm to GOP_Tiger
Just in case anyone wanted proof that the Kerch rail bridge is not operational, here's a Russian Telegram post complaining about the long lines that people have to stand in line for 8-9 hours for the ferry, and that those people don't get any official help, and there's no organization to the lines.
So, there are zero passenger trains crossing right now. Otherwise, no one would be standing in line for 8-9 hours for the ferry.
At Dmitry's post, you can see the link to the original Telegram post.
So, there are zero passenger trains crossing right now. Otherwise, no one would be standing in line for 8-9 hours for the ferry.
At Dmitry's post, you can see the link to the original Telegram post.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:05 pm to cypher
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A smart detonator preprogrammed with GPS coordinates could fill the role of SOF operative. The fuel cars being there may have been coincidental.
Yes, but the detonation point is not one that would have likely been chosen, except for the fuel cars on the rail bridge.
Absent the fuel cars on the rail bridge, the logical place to blow the bomb was further ahead, after the road bridge rose up to its highest point (where ships go underneath). Damage to the road bridge that high up would be much more difficult to repair.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:22 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Absent the fuel cars on the rail bridge, the logical place to blow the bomb was further ahead, after the road bridge rose up to its highest point (where ships go underneath). Damage to the road bridge that high up would be much more difficult to repair.
More difficult to impact the steel structure underneath concrete roadway instead of just spans setting on piers without hard fasteners. Look at how the twin span causeway from New Orleans to Slidell was destroyed from Katrina's waves pushing them up the over. The good thing was that enough spans were recovered to set back into place to make a two lane hwy until permanent new causeway was constructed.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:23 pm to cypher
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A smart detonator preprogrammed with GPS coordinates could fill the role of SOF operative. The fuel cars being there may have been coincidental.
One other point that leads away from a suicide bomber was when the truck blew up it was in the right lane, had it been a suicide bomber he would have almost certainly moved to the inside lane before detonating so it would have had more impact on the opposite travel spans.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:25 pm to GOP_Tiger
Sat pics of the truck queue in Crimea. Said to have roughly 900 trucks waiting.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:41 pm to Obtuse1
Warographics look at General Winter and from a historical perspective how it may impact the coming months.
YT
TLDW: Winter is not the huge advantage for Russia it is mythologized as, it comes down to who is best prepared, has the best logistics, and just doesn't frickup (General FUBAR).
YT
TLDW: Winter is not the huge advantage for Russia it is mythologized as, it comes down to who is best prepared, has the best logistics, and just doesn't frickup (General FUBAR).
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:02 pm to Obtuse1
More equipment rolling in. France sending 3 M270s with rockets and 155 artillery rounds. Germany is sending 2 more MARS II which is their version of the M270 along with extra rockets for the HIMARS and M270. They are also sending 4 PzH 2000 self propelled howitzers, 12 Slovakian Zuzana 152 mm self propelled howitzers along with 152 mm ammunition and 50 Dingo MRAPs.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:22 pm to GOP_Tiger
The more I think about it, the less likely I think that it was that the bomb detonator was activated by GPS.
The reason for that is that, from the Ukrainian point of view, the whole point of this operation was to take out the rail bridge, which they did.
Knocking out the road bridge for military trucks is nice, but, by itself, would have minimal military significance. It's a nice symbolic win, but it doesn't change the direction of the war. To be blunt, it's not worth it. This operation was very complex and necessarily risked the lives of multiple members of Ukrainian special forces. That's just not something that you do for an explosion of little strategic significance.
But knocking out the rail bridge is crippling to Russian logistics. Supplies of fuel in Kherson and the rest of the South will soon dwindle to critical levels. If Russia can't soon repair the rail bridge to operational status (and my lucky 8-ball now says that they can't), then their forces in that part of Ukraine will be in big trouble very soon.
And that's definitely worth the complexity of sending special forces to Georgia, where they can purchase the bomb components without arising suspicion (or even with the active support of Georgians who hate Russia -- of which there are many). It's definitely worth assembling a bomb and equipping it with a remote detonation device. It's definitely worth risking the lives of multiple members of Ukrainian special forces.
So, in my view, there's no chance that this bomb just happened to detonate by the fuel cars on the rail bridge. That had to be the point of the whole thing.
The reason for that is that, from the Ukrainian point of view, the whole point of this operation was to take out the rail bridge, which they did.
Knocking out the road bridge for military trucks is nice, but, by itself, would have minimal military significance. It's a nice symbolic win, but it doesn't change the direction of the war. To be blunt, it's not worth it. This operation was very complex and necessarily risked the lives of multiple members of Ukrainian special forces. That's just not something that you do for an explosion of little strategic significance.
But knocking out the rail bridge is crippling to Russian logistics. Supplies of fuel in Kherson and the rest of the South will soon dwindle to critical levels. If Russia can't soon repair the rail bridge to operational status (and my lucky 8-ball now says that they can't), then their forces in that part of Ukraine will be in big trouble very soon.
And that's definitely worth the complexity of sending special forces to Georgia, where they can purchase the bomb components without arising suspicion (or even with the active support of Georgians who hate Russia -- of which there are many). It's definitely worth assembling a bomb and equipping it with a remote detonation device. It's definitely worth risking the lives of multiple members of Ukrainian special forces.
So, in my view, there's no chance that this bomb just happened to detonate by the fuel cars on the rail bridge. That had to be the point of the whole thing.
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