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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/8/22 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by LSU7096
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 4:02 pm to
They have more missles!!!
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 4:14 pm to
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So, now that we know more about the damage situation, what's the impact of the strike? It does complicate Russian logistics somewhat, but I think the bigger impact is psychological: Ukraine shows Russia that they are going to lose everything that they ever gained in Ukraine. The Kerch Bridge, like the Moskva, has been a symbol of Russian dominance. And everyone on both sides now knows that Ukraine has the capability to strike the bridge again -- it has the smell of doom on it.



I made an unpopular post a month or so ago on the value of the bridge as a bargaining chip when parties come to the table. The more intact it is the more bargaining value it has. Here Ukraine possibly inadvertently has increased the bargaining value by not completely destroying the bridge.

There is a legend from the Yom Kippur war regarding the Aswan dam. As the legend goes the Israelis flew over the dam and bombed it with paint. This clearly showed they had the capability to destroy the dam without destroying it. At that point, the dam became major leverage in the conflict where previously the Arabs didn't see it as a real possibility so the threats had no value. Again, this might have been inadvertent but the Kremlin now realizes 20 layers of protection was not enough, maybe they need 21 layers, or maybe they need 101. They simply don't know. The Crimean bridge is clearly on the board now.

In any event, the blow was far more effective long-term psychologically than logistically but in Russia's current state you can bet the logistical value will be felt. When you are six feet underwater and breathing through a straw you are slowly dying while you try to surface, even a tiny reduction in oxygen that reaches your alveoli is felt and reduces your chances of ever taking a full unimpeded breath again.

Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 4:16 pm to
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Are you getting paid in Rubbles or do you just get to kiss the icon?


Every hundredth post he gets one of these:

Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 4:41 pm to
We at least know it wasn’t an ATACMS that did it as they would still be well out of range if you fired from around Kherson. This is either some kind of SOF operation, a truck bomb or one of those Ukrainian missiles they just came out with.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 4:48 pm to
Ammo dump at the Karan railway station in the Donetsk region was hit earlier. Multiple videos and geolocation in the thread.

WarMonitor twitter

It seems as we have been focused on the bridge there has been a lot more going on today.
Posted by Kentucker
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 4:55 pm to
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That looks more like lifted from below than from a bomb from above. It still could set off BLAZES in the multiple tanks cars above which it did, unless another charge was planted on a tank car. The rail bridge was definitely weakened from the heat of the tank cars which burned for hours, flame was coming out of both sides from under the rail bridge.


How would that explain the wide burn pattern across the lanes that weren’t directly hit? The tiny pic below shows the blast orginating from the side of the traffic lanes and expanding across all lanes and towards the train bridge to the left in the pic.

This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 4:57 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 4:56 pm to
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We at least know it wasn’t an ATACMS that did it as they would still be well out of range


No, the official range of ATACMS is 190 miles, though reports are that the true range is longer than that. But the distance from Ukrainian-held Orikhiv (southeast of Zaporizhzhia) to the bridge is only 156 miles. So the bridge is well within ATACMS range.
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 4:59 pm to
Your boy needs some milk.

Why can’t Russians catch?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2676 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:02 pm to
a couple of Russians recruits still have a sense of humor...

Twitter
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:11 pm to


Damn it. The one time I decide to take a week off from the war the crazy bass turds finally go and do the damn thing.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:12 pm to
War is hell and that was awful. Damn.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:13 pm to
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Damn it. The one time I decide to take a week off from the war the crazy bass turds finally go and do the damn thing


And here we were betting that you were in on the action.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:17 pm to
I hope they’re the extra large size because he’s a giant a-hole.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18084 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:18 pm to
We owe it all to BrianKellyRespecter. He posted on page 1907:

quote:

The Azov Sea is Russia’s now. Goodnight.


literally about 5 minutes before the bridge was struck. It was like he is an anti-prophet and spoke the attack into existence.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40233 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:30 pm to
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Consider the timing, why now?


Ground work to launch a new campaign into the south. Russia supplies lines to the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia oblasts run through Crimea. With one move the Ukrainians have cut the Russian supply lines in half. Based on what I have seen on twitter Russia is claiming that the rail bridge is back open but it is also likely only one track now and there are probably serious weight restrictions on the bridge. From the videos I have seen, the Russians are having to limit traffic to only two lanes along the length of the bridge and one lane at the site of the collapsed span. Traffic is going to be a nightmare for a little while. All of that means Russia's logistics are likely down to 25% capacity of what they were 2 days ago and even then the Russians were having a hard time keeping up with supply demand.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4374 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:32 pm to
Per Twitter Russia has run a test train over the bridge after completing some repairs. If true, I am legitimately impressed by the construction of this bridge.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:39 pm to
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BrianKellyRespecter.


Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2676 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:45 pm to
Occupiers begin allowing passenger trains to cross Crimean Bridge
Saturday, 8 October 2022, 23:18

Russian occupiers have restored freight and passenger train traffic over the Crimean Bridge which was damaged by an explosion on Saturday morning.

Source: Russian news agency Interfax, citing a shipping company and the Ministry of Transport of the Russian Federation

Details: On the evening of Saturday, the first passenger train, en route from occupied Simferopol to Moscow, went under arches of the Crimean Bridge.

Double-decker train No. 28 connecting Simferopol to Moscow departed from Simferopol at 17:10 (Moscow time), according to schedule.

The Ministry of Transport of Russia has reported that the sale of tickets for passenger trains to Russian-occupied Crimea has been restored.

Movement of freight trains began at 18:42. Over the course of the night, 12 passenger trains are scheduled to pass across the bridge, as stated in the Ministry’s message.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:48 pm to
What’s insane to think about from watching that Reddit video is the lack of discipline and leadership by the Russian Army from the standpoint they don't wear helmets or body armor in their perspective area of operations.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40233 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:49 pm to
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Damn it. The one time I decide to take a week off from the war the crazy bass turds finally go and do the damn thing


And here we were betting that you were in on the action.



Why would y'all think that? The Ukrainians are not allowing the US Army medical people to go east of Kupyansk or south of Dnipro. Which is fine by me. I really do not feel like being nuked like last nights left over baked potato.

















I just messing with y'all. I am in Mississippi not Ukraine right now.
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